SPOILER: The Acolyte -- Disney+ Star Wars -- begins June 5, 2024

Wendy Pleakley

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That's true. There are people focusing on the wrong things. Notice I didn't say fans. But that article? "the new live-action series is also one of the best additions to that galaxy far away in a long time" Come on, the best yet? As of now it's not anywhere near the top in my opinion. That's not to say it can't end up that way. But articles like this are just as big of a problem as the "toxic" articles in my opinion. It's just there to try and lump any real fans who aren't as optimistic about the show into the toxic bucket.

How about they talk about what they like about the show. Why they think it's so good. Talk about the plot, the acting, the music... There's NONE of that. Dill holes on the internet aren't ruining peoples enjoyment of star wars. And if they are, shame on them. Never has some random idiot online swayed my opinion on something. I like what I like, I make my own decisions. As should everyone. We have to stop giving the real toxic people such a voice. And calling an entire fandom hateful because they aren't happy with the first 3 episodes doesn't do anything to help the divide. Let's face it, this article was written for the same reason as the "Kennedy gets destroyed for obliterating star wars" headline. They know people are going to click on it to read how hateful star wars fans are.

It's not lumping all fans who simply don't like the show into any bucket.

It's very specific about the type of people it's calling out.
 

MagicMouseFan

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An article that pretty much nails the obvious.

There is a group of toxic fans attacking this and other shows for all the wrong reasons.

It makes the online discourse toxic and even impacts how we view the show - you're going to be SO ANGRY at this week's episode!

A reminder that discussing the show online or with certain people isn't productive or beneficial.

Positive and negative hype both contribute to bringing eyeballs to the show, but ultimately, it’s up to the show to prove itself. With 5 episodes left in The Acolyte, there’s no doubt they will be the best episodes of the show. Viewer numbers are the key indicator of success. To truly establish itself, The Acolyte needs to surpass the viewer numbers of Ahsoka. In the end, it’s the quality of the content and how well it resonates with the audience that will determine the show’s lasting impact and success.

Ahsoka Viewership Summary

1. Finale Viewership: 863,000 U.S. households watched the “Ahsoka” finale within its first six days of availability on Disney+ .
2. Premiere Performance:
• Ahsoka: Achieved 1.2 million U.S. households and 14 million total views in the first five days .
• The Acolyte: Recorded 4.8 million views on the first day and 11.1 million views within the first five days .
3. Comparison with Other Series:
• “Obi-Wan Kenobi” Finale: 1.8 million U.S. households .
• “The Mandalorian” Season 3 Finale: 1.4 million U.S. households .
• “Andor” Season 1 Finale: 591,000 U.S. households .
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
An article that pretty much nails the obvious.

There is a group of toxic fans attacking this and other shows for all the wrong reasons.

It makes the online discourse toxic and even impacts how we view the show - you're going to be SO ANGRY at this week's episode!

A reminder that discussing the show online or with certain people isn't productive or beneficial.

Yeah why listen to what the fans want!

Star Wars can continue its journey to irrelevancy.

Then they can write an article blaming the toxic fans for that.

I have a crazy idea …

How about give the fans what they want!!

Take a look at Inside Out 2 and how that’s gonna perform.

It’s not very hard to figure out.
 
Positive and negative hype both contribute to bringing eyeballs to the show, but ultimately, it’s up to the show to prove itself. With 5 episodes left in The Acolyte, there’s no doubt they will be the best episodes of the show. Viewer numbers are the key indicator of success. To truly establish itself, The Acolyte needs to surpass the viewer numbers of Ahsoka. In the end, it’s the quality of the content and how well it resonates with the audience that will determine the show’s lasting impact and success.

Ahsoka Viewership Summary

1. Finale Viewership: 863,000 U.S. households watched the “Ahsoka” finale within its first six days of availability on Disney+ .
2. Premiere Performance:
• Ahsoka: Achieved 1.2 million U.S. households and 14 million total views in the first five days .
• The Acolyte: Recorded 4.8 million views on the first day and 11.1 million views within the first five days .
3. Comparison with Other Series:
• “Obi-Wan Kenobi” Finale: 1.8 million U.S. households .
• “The Mandalorian” Season 3 Finale: 1.4 million U.S. households .
• “Andor” Season 1 Finale: 591,000 U.S. households .
got a citation for those numbers? Pretty sure Disney hasn't released any of that info
 

DKampy

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Apathy is not how I would describe a Twitter tribe just posting f-bombs directed at Kennedy and Headland and posting tombstones for Star Wars. And they were doing that for the previous SW shows. And for Doctor Who. And for DCEU. And for anything they don't like -- it's an all out war. If one person dares to like what they don't like then they get hounded with character assassination. And again, this isn't just for SW, it's the discourse for almost everything that one can be a disappointed fan. Now, you must become a social media warrior not resting until your nemesis is defeated. Extra points if you can get a hate-filled hashtag trending. That means you're winning. It got them the Snyder cut. Now they think it's the magical incantation to get whatever they want.

There are a lot of show I don't enjoy, have become disappointed with, or just hate. I've never taken to Twitter to try to tear it down. Nor have I gone to a Disney fan forums to do that to Disney. It's childish.
As I see it this post is spot on… I was a huge Garfield fan as a kid and I would of been interested in the movie if it looked liked The Garfield of my younger days… but even from the trailers it does not look like the Garfield from my youth…. I am not searching out the Garfield forums so I can scream how the film destroyed my youth…. I just don’t watch the movie and move on
 
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MagicMouseFan

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got a citation for those numbers? Pretty sure Disney hasn't released any of that info




Disney has partnered with Samba TV for several years, leveraging its True Reach and Frequency measurement capabilities to understand and optimize audience engagement across various platforms. This collaboration reflects Disney’s trust in Samba TV’s data to measure and analyze viewership effectively.

 
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MagicMouseFan

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SW is giving me what I want. Thanks for listening, LucasFilm and Disney!!
Its ok MisterPenguin, it happens…
I liked Xanadu back in the day with Olivia Newton John.
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DKampy

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While Garfield holds a special place for many, its cultural impact differs significantly from larger franchises like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, or Star Trek. These franchises have vast, deeply invested fanbases that often express strong opinions about new adaptations or changes. This engagement reflects their immense cultural significance and the emotional investment of their fans. While Garfield might not elicit the same intensity of reaction.
Except all film is subjective….yes even Star Wars… if you think you created a better story in your head cannon… write a script and try to connect with Lucas film

The last Jedi is my favorite Star Wars film outside of the original trilogy… except for the casino planet scenes… but that does not stop people from not understanding all film is subjected…as I have been told many times my opinion is wrong

Luke was a teenager in the original trilogy…. When we next meet him… he is in his 60’s… it is not tough to imagine he is not the same idealistic boy we met in the beginning… life experiences might create a more cynical Luke… I know I am not the same person as I was in the 80’s… he was flawed… we all are… it is what makes us human… I found it made a Luke a more complex character
 

MagicMouseFan

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Except all film is subjective….yes even Star Wars… if you think you created a better story in your head cannon… write a script and try to connect with Lucas film

The last Jedi is my favorite Star Wars film outside of the original trilogy… except for the casino planet scenes… but that does not stop people from not understanding all film is subjected…as I have been told many times my opinion is wrong

Luke was a teenager in the original trilogy…. When we next meet him… he is in his 60’s… it is not tough to imagine he is not the same idealistic boy we met in the beginning… life experiences might create a more cynical Luke… I know I am not the same person as I was in the 80’s… he was flawed… we all are… it is what makes us human… I found it made a Luke a more complex character
I didn’t say you aren’t entitled to your opinion that The Last Jedi is your favorite film. And of course, you accept that many others think The Last Jedi is pure garbage—everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

What we were discussing is how passionate Star Trek, LOTR, and Star Wars fans can be, while Garfield doesn’t even move the needle of emotional connection compared to those brands.
 
Disney has partnered with Samba TV for several years, leveraging its True Reach and Frequency measurement capabilities to understand and optimize audience engagement across various platforms. This collaboration reflects Disney’s trust in Samba TV’s data to measure and analyze viewership effectively.
gonna stop you right there.

first 100% those are not the actual numbers. SambaTV only can show viewership numbers for people that have a TV with Samaba on it, and with people who are using the App. So that doesn't include people who don't use Samba, or people who watch on their phone, tablet or computer. Which of course is a HUGE amount. Probably half the market there.

Second Disney would NEVER allow any of the viewership numbers to actually get released. Remember this was a HUGE part of the strikes last year. No streaming service wants the actual numbers to be released. Even if Disney puts out a press release with views I would be very skeptical.

Third and probably most importantly, how many people watched the first episode 2 weeks later? 3 weeks? How many people watched it once the series was complete? More and more people binge watch shows which is never taken into account with these things. We know this happens all the time and you bringing up Suits got more views years later on Netflix then it ever did when it was aired. This is the true power and importance of Streaming.

People who talk about how important a show is watched in the first week are well dinosaurs and don't understand how Streaming has impacted the entertainment industry.

The entire reason a show wanted to get huge viewership it's first broadcast is because of ad revenue. More eyeballs means more money. That isn't how streaming works because well... obviously no ads. Even those with Ads the money they make from a subscription is way more.

So the entire point of tracking viewing numbers for a shows first broadcast is competely meaningless.


Now let's take those numbers as 100% accurate and they never got any more views after they aired.

Well clearly that's more then enough views for Disney and they consider them all a success since all of those shows are getting more seasons. If they were failures we knew Disney would have put them out to pasture like Willow.

That's the true measure of a streaming shows success, weather or not it get's a second season, remains on streaming and more importantly if it gets a physical release. Disney has shown enough confidence in it's shows to released them not only in blu ray but also 4k.
 

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