Vicarious Fan
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I mean... you could just see it because you are interested in it and then form your own opinion.
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It does make me laugh when people complain about cringe lines and then defend the prequels
Disney Irish
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There is a lot of nuance to the scores, on the whole I would say they are mostly meaningless (or at least should be) as they don't always reflect the reality of the general audience or how we personally feel about the reviewed content.
Vicarious Fan
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my favorite is when people say the bike gang in Book of Boba fett doesn't belong but say nothing about the 1950s diner in Attack of the Clones.
It's like have you not seen Star Wars before?
rd805
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This is actually one of the things i'm somewhat enjoying about this show. Not everyone is a fan of the Republic, not everyone is a fan of the Jedi. It shows that they became a little too powerful perhaps, and lacked the foresight overall for what happened next. Sortainteresting -- SORTA lol
Casper Gutman
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They’re great, great movies, but a lot of the dialogue in the OT is famously clunky as well (if not as glaringly awful as the PT).
“George! You can type this ****, but you can’t say it!”
Casper Gutman
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Also, there is a difference between professional critics reviews, folks who sign their name to their words and usually have editorial oversight, and an aggregate “fan” review score that can be easily manipulated. You have a non-professional critic you trust? Great. You trust a number that can be voted on by a collection of bots and folks who never saw the show or movie? You’re pushing a narrative.
erasure fan1
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It's all fairly useless, that's really the point. Is there data you can take from it? Sure, but it's pretty limited. And a lot of that data can be speculative. It's also really not that hard to pick out the troll reviews. If you see a reviews like "this show is a plague on society" or "amazing talent absolutely revolutionary". And that's it, without any other details, you skip by and pay no mind to them. Personally I've never let an aggregate review site influence my decision to watch or pass on a piece of media. Also, realistically a 17 tomato score will probably help the show more than hurt it. If it was right down the middle, I think people just pass it on by. But a 17%? Oh man, we have to check this out and see what all the fuss is about.
erasure fan1
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Thank you, thats what I'm saying. There's zero point to try and defend this show, when it has some awful dialogue.
Probably. But it make it any less lame. Just like Anakins "Yippee!!!". If it's lame it's lame. How the show ends will determine how people view it in the future.
erasure fan1
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Why? I don't think I've ever heard someone on here defend the prequel dialogue. That's the one thing EVERYONE seems to agree on. I'll defend them from a story standpoint. I'll take the prequels story v.s. the disjointed choose your own adventure nonsense of the sequels. No one on here has ever defended "I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere." But I think you know that.
Screamface
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"Are you an angel? I've heard the deep space pilots talk about them. They live on the moons of Iago... I think."
"You're a funny little boy."
I smile when I come across the bad dialogue.
None of this new stuff will age well because it's just lazy and soulless. It defies any logic to understand how poorly they keep running Lucasfilm. I can understand on some level how their lack of planning messed up the sequels, but the continued lack of understanding Star Wars and why it has fans to begin with is insane at this point. They were even bragging about hiring writers for this show who haven't seen Star Wars.
You can excuse some mistakes and mismanagement, but it's now at the point of sheer irrefutable incompetence and mismanagement.
"You're a funny little boy."
I smile when I come across the bad dialogue.
None of this new stuff will age well because it's just lazy and soulless. It defies any logic to understand how poorly they keep running Lucasfilm. I can understand on some level how their lack of planning messed up the sequels, but the continued lack of understanding Star Wars and why it has fans to begin with is insane at this point. They were even bragging about hiring writers for this show who haven't seen Star Wars.
You can excuse some mistakes and mismanagement, but it's now at the point of sheer irrefutable incompetence and mismanagement.
Wendy Pleakley
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An article that pretty much nails the obvious.
There is a group of toxic fans attacking this and other shows for all the wrong reasons.
It makes the online discourse toxic and even impacts how we view the show - you're going to be SO ANGRY at this week's episode!
A reminder that discussing the show online or with certain people isn't productive or beneficial.
www.inverse.com
There is a group of toxic fans attacking this and other shows for all the wrong reasons.
It makes the online discourse toxic and even impacts how we view the show - you're going to be SO ANGRY at this week's episode!
A reminder that discussing the show online or with certain people isn't productive or beneficial.
10 Years Later, The Newest Star Wars Show Has Restarted an Annoying Old Debate
Lucasfilm’s latest series is the franchise’s best yet, but fans are too blinded by their hate to see it.
Vicarious Fan
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I'm sorry what? how was that your take from what I said
Because people point out the cringy dialogue is the reason they dislike this show… but that for some reason did not ruin their enjoyment of the prequels
erasure fan1
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That's true. There are people focusing on the wrong things. Notice I didn't say fans. But that article? "the new live-action series is also one of the best additions to that galaxy far away in a long time" Come on, the best yet? As of now it's not anywhere near the top in my opinion. That's not to say it can't end up that way. But articles like this are just as big of a problem as the "toxic" articles in my opinion. It's just there to try and lump any real fans who aren't as optimistic about the show into the toxic bucket.
How about they talk about what they like about the show. Why they think it's so good. Talk about the plot, the acting, the music... There's NONE of that. Dill holes on the internet aren't ruining peoples enjoyment of star wars. And if they are, shame on them. Never has some random idiot online swayed my opinion on something. I like what I like, I make my own decisions. As should everyone. We have to stop giving the real toxic people such a voice. And calling an entire fandom hateful because they aren't happy with the first 3 episodes doesn't do anything to help the divide. Let's face it, this article was written for the same reason as the "Kennedy gets destroyed for obliterating star wars" headline. They know people are going to click on it to read how hateful star wars fans are.
erasure fan1
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Because for all the bad dialogue and some wooden acting. There was a lot of good too. If the acolyte can produce a dual of the fates, or an Obi-wan v.s. Anakin... it won't ruin the enjoyment either.
MoonRakerSCM
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Bingo. The fact is, subpar stories/filming/cinematography is being met with apathy.
Apathy is not how I would describe a Twitter tribe just posting f-bombs directed at Kennedy and Headland and posting tombstones for Star Wars. And they were doing that for the previous SW shows. And for Doctor Who. And for DCEU. And for anything they don't like -- it's an all out war. If one person dares to like what they don't like then they get hounded with character assassination. And again, this isn't just for SW, it's the discourse for almost everything that one can be a disappointed fan. Now, you must become a social media warrior not resting until your nemesis is defeated. Extra points if you can get a hate-filled hashtag trending. That means you're winning. It got them the Snyder cut. Now they think it's the magical incantation to get whatever they want.
There are a lot of show I don't enjoy, have become disappointed with, or just hate. I've never taken to Twitter to try to tear it down. Nor have I gone to a Disney fan forums to do that to Disney. It's childish.
MoonRakerSCM
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Disney Irish
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And look what that conjured up..... Rebel Moon....