News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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LittleBuford

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V/N McQueen said:
That's not my point. These are all assumptions, but I don't think very many people would pull up the soundtrack to SotS, whereas plenty of people have heard the songs from PatF, and then probably brought them up on YouTube again.
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I thought your point was about how familiar people are with the music from each of the two films. I’d consider “Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah” a far more widely known song than anything from Princess of the Frog.
 
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FigmentFan82 said:
if this just never ended up happening, do you think anyone would ever bring it up?
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"I appreciate your interest in Tiana's new adventure at Splash Mountain! Unfortunately, we do not have a timeline for this attraction. Rest assured, Imagineers are working hard to bring you new experiences everyday! Is there anything else I can help you with?"
 
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LittleBuford said:
I thought your point was about how familiar people are with the music from each of the two films. I’d consider “Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah” a far more widely known song than anything from Princess of the Frog.
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The difference is most people today know Zipadeedoodah from experiencing Splash mountain itself, or hearing a Disney promo, or buying a Disney parks soundtrack.. not from watching or knowing sots. People today will mostly know PatF mountains music from the film itself since its more recent, available on Disney plus, one of Disneys better later films, etc.
 
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Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah isn't going anywhere. At least at the Florida park. Will be interesting to see if they keep it in Magic Happens when it returns to Disneyland Park.

The irony is that Magic Happens premiered just 3 months before the Splash Mountain re-theme announcement and contained song lyrics from a supposedly racist movie (more evidence this was not 'years' in the planning).
 
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FigmentFan82 said:
if this just never ended up happening, do you think anyone would ever bring it up?
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Nope,

I Just don't know how you map the PatF story onto the Splash infrastructure the only part that works is the river journey from the Mama Odie's place to 'Nawlins You could do Ray and his cousins in the tunnel. That said this is the kind of thing which would would work better in Disneyland because of New Orleans Square.

Now a new dark ride based on PatF would be awesome because the story lends itself to a classic disney dark ride.
 
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I don't like change. I will admit that. Still Princess and the frog doesn't go along with frontier land theme. Still as long as they have the ride I guess changes are always on the horizon.
 
Dizmentia

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I have a reliable source saying Princess and the Frog Splash Mountain is indeed still happening in Orlando. And yes, many Imagineers are expected to relocate to Florida by the Fall (not indicating a timeline for Splash, just related to the recent Lake Nona news). From what I'm gathering, it wouldn't be shocking if the level of show changes to Splash was similar to Great Movie Ride changing to Runaway Railway.
 
tanc

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Dizmentia said:
I have a reliable source saying Princess and the Frog Splash Mountain is indeed still happening in Orlando. And yes, many Imagineers are expected to relocate to Florida by the Fall (not indicating a timeline for Splash, just related to the recent Lake Nona news). From what I'm gathering, it wouldn't be shocking if the level of show changes to Splash was similar to Great Movie Ride changing to Runaway Railway.
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I don't get why some people believe it will never happen. Disney has backed themselves into a corner and there's no way out. Could you the imagine the outrage that would ensue if they suddenly announce not doing it in Florida? It seems like our only real hope is that Tokyo keeps their version. I wonder how that will work out if they never do Princess and the Frog, which still would mean Tokyo would have a different version of the ride. The exclusivity of Splash or another retheme I think is bad news. If splash was such an outrage, I think they should have just closed both until they redid them. I feel like continuing to keep them open almost destroys their own point.
 
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tanc said:
I don't get why some people believe it will never happen. Disney has backed themselves into a corner and there's no way out. Could you the imagine the outrage that would ensue if they suddenly announce not doing it in Florida? It seems like our only real hope is that Tokyo keeps their version. I wonder how that will work out if they never do Princess and the Frog, which still would mean Tokyo would have a different version of the ride. The exclusivity of Splash or another retheme I think is bad news. If splash was such an outrage, I think they should have just closed both until they redid them. I feel like continuing to keep them open almost destroys their own point.
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People keep saying that plans changing will bring outrage, but just like there are still millions riding the attraction every month, there would be no outrage if plans changed. Some people want to think there would be, but there would not be.
 
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Phil12

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For those who think that Splash will not be re-themed, may I remind you that today the Cleveland Indians changed their name to the Cleveland Guardians. And the Washington Football Team has not yet announced their new name but they are no longer using the old racial slur in their former name. So yes, Splash Mountain is going into the history books for very good reasons.
 
WEDfan9798

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There is no way Disney would back out of a retheme of Splash Mountain in California or Orlando. If it was ever discovered that Disney was considering backing out of the retheme in the United States, the media would tear the Disney company apart. I understand people who love the ride as is may be in the denial phase in the stages of grief, but the retheme will happen.

I wouldn't be surprised if takes many years for the retheme to occur in Orlando, but the change is inevitable.

I think the real reason there has been no update on the retheme is that Disney lied when they said [in June of 2020] that they had been planning the Splash Mountain retheme for at least a year. While Disney may have had some conversations about one-day retheming Splash Mountain to move away from Song of the South, I don't think the retheme was anything more than a vague, early concept. And then in the summer of 2020 — at the height of the Geroge Floyd protests — Disney quickly panicked and feared getting canceled, so announced way too soon that they plan to retheme Splash Mountian from Song of the South to Princess and the Frog to avoid being labeled racist.

Anyway, while I do love Splash Mountain as is, I think the retheme is a good call. It makes little sense to have an attraction advertising a movie that has been essentially self-banned by Disney. And Princess and the Frog needs more representation in the parks.

I think to make the retheme work, Disney is going to have to tweak large portions of Frontierland. Maybe the street leading up to Splash Mountain (with the Country Bear Jamboree and Pecos Bill restaurant) can be changed into a New Orleans-themed street? I've heard rumors about the Country Bear Jamboree possibly being permanently shut down sometime in the near future, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is the route Disney took.
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I don't think they should close down the Country Bears nor should they change Frontierland into New Orleans. That would look very stupid and it would ruin that area of the park...
 
WEDfan9798

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tanc said:
I don't get why some people believe it will never happen. Disney has backed themselves into a corner and there's no way out. Could you the imagine the outrage that would ensue if they suddenly announce not doing it in Florida? It seems like our only real hope is that Tokyo keeps their version. I wonder how that will work out if they never do Princess and the Frog, which still would mean Tokyo would have a different version of the ride. The exclusivity of Splash or another retheme I think is bad news. If splash was such an outrage, I think they should have just closed both until they redid them. I feel like continuing to keep them open almost destroys their own point.
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They should just add cowboy hats and call it the Western River Expedition
 
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