News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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Disney Glimpses said:
It's still unclear what this means; I think some stuff from the OST will make it in. I do hope that in Florida we get some songs recorded in bluegrass style - particularly the outdoor queue loop.
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Since they love to hype when the OST is used in rides, and the fact that they aren’t doing that, is a worry.

It’s hard to top Randy Newman.
 
Rich T

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Smiley/OCD said:
I wonder how long it’s gonna take to change the storyline on the Liberty Belle Riverboat since it mentions Chic-a-pin as you pass by…(still mentioned in mid December)
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I’m guessing… between closing tonight and tomorrow’s opening? Probably not, but I wouldn’t be surprised.
 
Disstevefan1

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MerlinTheGoat said:
Just for the record, Splash doesn't have 77 animatronics, not even the Disneyland version has that many. Fan websites vastly inflate the numbers, but Disney's own official page takes the cake as most dishonest of them all by claiming it has "over 100" animatronics. It's a mixture of them outright lying (for marketing purposes) and also counting literally anything that moves. Even if it's a simple 1-axis repeating motorized prop that shouldn't remotely qualify. Such as the spinning bees in the Laughing Place (they literally claim it has "animatronic bees" on the ride's page).

In actuality, Disneyland has about 70 legitimate animatronics and MK has about 60 (give or take a couple, I did a precise count once but forgot the exact single digit numbers). That's still a ton of AA's, more than anything they've built since Sinbad at Tokyo Disneysea (Splash itself being the last of its kind in the US).
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We can split hairs over exactly how many animatronics Splash had.

I will be happy if the new attraction comes anywhere close to number of animatronics Splash had , whatever that really was.

My overall worry from the start is for how long this attraction will be closed, as we see they work so incredibly slow and I think this is by design to string folks along.

Perhaps if folks could rely on timings and opening dates folks would plan their for their WDW vacation for an opening and skip a visit or two , but if you never know, you just keep coming and it will just eventually be opening on your visit.
 
MagicHappens1971

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Kirby86 said:
During the queue line sure instrumentals may show up of those songs but didn't they say the attraction will have all brand new songs?
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From the 2020 DPB Article
“We pick up this story after the final kiss, and join Princess Tiana and Louis on a musical adventure – featuring some of the powerful music from the film – as they prepare for their first-ever Mardi Gras performance.”

July 2022 when they announced the name, not much mentioned of the music
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Tiana’s Bayou Adventure Coming to Disney Parks in Late 2024

Strike up the band because we’ve saved a seat for you on this musical journey with Tiana and friends! The name of the new attraction evolving from the reimagining of Splash Mountain was announced today during ESSENCE Fest in New Orleans: Tiana’s
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In the most recent DPB post about it, it does talk about “new musical adventure” and styles of music but doesn’t explicitly say anything about music from the film/new music
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A New Scene and New Critters Are Introduced for Tiana’s Bayou Adventure

We’re one step closer to going down the bayou as Walt Disney Imagineering reveals a new scene from Tiana’s Bayou Adventure! Take a look at this new scene and some of the brand-new characters we’re creating specifically for the attraction coming
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MerlinTheGoat

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Randy Newman isn't difficult to top at all IMO, I actually dislike the majority of his work in fact. PATF is one of those rare exceptions, probably the only OST that i've enjoyed some of the songs in (though there are misses or at least half good/bad tunes in there as well). The music isn't one of my primary concerns, as long as they get some talented jazz composers on board with this project. And don't veer into modern genres that don't fit the period.

But as I said, i'd be VERY surprised if none of the film's songs are included at all and it's entirely new.
 
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UNCgolf said:
Were you equally angry about the closing of Great Movie Ride? Because that was even worse from a theme park perspective, considering it was essentially the core themed attraction of DHS.
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GMR put you in the movies, as MMRR does now. Unfortunately, GMR was simply dated-the movies needed to be updated after 25-30 years so they were more relevant. Getting a new ride that literally put you into the newest Micky Mouse cartoon isn’t significantly different, and more timeless. I personally like the experience more than GMR and Rise.
 
Kirby86

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UNCgolf said:
Were you equally angry about the closing of Great Movie Ride? Because that was even worse from a theme park perspective, considering it was essentially the core themed attraction of DHS.
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Not a Disney example but I was seriously bummed Universal got rid Jaws felt weird getting rid of a ride based off the first block buster fir Harry Potter.
 
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The difference here is that the ride isn't being demolished. Much of those lovely southern vibes are going to remain. All of those outdoor queue areas, the views of the fireworks, the smells of the water, the rustic wood structures: it's all going to be there waiting for us in the next attraction. Yeah, the loss of what is iconic Disney music is a big one, but from an attraction standpoint, I'm optimistic. Disney has way too many reasons they cannot fail with this re-theme. If anything, I think other stuff gets cut/pushed in order to make this one work.
 
Incomudro

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Rich T said:
I’m in favor of the retheme, but…

1) To just call SotS racist and leave it at that implies that the movie is mean-spirited and hateful, and it is not. It is a gentle, good natured movie made with the best of intentions; it was Disney’s attempt to introduce the general public to the Uncle Remus stories. James Baskett won a (well-deserved) Oscar for his performance.

2) That said, it has not aged well at all, to say the least. If Walt Disney could have looked into the future and seen how it would be perceived decades later, he never would have produced it. But at the time it was made, it was unheard of to portray a black man as the central hero, mentor and father-figure to a white child in a feature film for mainstream audiences. Walt thought he was making a positive, forward-thinking film.

3) But, THAT said, Song of the South is also a very boring, mediocre movie, and not worth any Disney Exec’s time defending. Its many now-cringe-inducing moments far overshadow its good intentions, and I don’t blame Disney at all for simply wanting to be done with this IP forever. When it becomes public domain, it can be everyone’s headache.
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To your entry no. 1 - Intention used to mean everything.
The vast majority of the public understood intention.
That seems to be largely lost - and if not lost, it's drowned out by the louder voices who are turning over rocks and looking for links to anything they view as negative.
Not only was Splash well intentioned - but it focused exclusively on the animated critters plucking them out of the film.
To go after this ride due to a tenuous link is part of the unfortunate situation we find ourselves in today.
 
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