News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[Kirby86]

I just worry about the factors that really make such a project such an uphill fight…

- Taking out a multi-generational favorite, so expectations are high
- taking down a capacity monster - so there is pressure on timelines
- a project started as a replacement, not because the concept was so strong on it’s own. Constraints alone are difficult, but to add in the pinch-hitter concept too? Alot of headwind there
- a project that requires touching basically everything in one of the largest attractions in the park. Basically scale alone makes properly funding a project like this difficult
- and now we are facing a financially competitive period where the company is facing huge external scrutiny and upheaval.

It would appear to do this well given the scale and pressures they would have to spend like it’s a marquee new attraction… not just a repurposed one. Do we have confidence that’s what the company is fully committed to?

Forget the target subject matter… just the big pieces make this a scary future to face

Yeah they have to hit the ground running. Maybe Disneyland will be able to survive capacity wise if the retheme runs into delays with construction however Magic Kingdom dosen't have this luxury. They less rides and attractions in said park.
Also we have to see how much they are changing on the inside since the entire structure is made out of concrete. I honestly feel the Laughing Place is the reason they chose the salt mine theme since there isn't much you can do with that part of the ride unless you open up the mountain and start pouring more concrete also you got to work around the Flume that's already there.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Little doubt they will do some tie in... but that doesn't solve the problem with Indy. As I understand it the rotating track at the beginning is the reason the ride has so much down time, and unless they redo that and make rather major modifications to the ride any tie in junk isn't going to make the ride more reliable. They have had issues pretty much since the ride opened and done lots of refurbs over the years, but never anything to address the reliability issues.

The issue of reliability in the "rotating track" was done away with years ago - the walls of the room are now fixed in place, and instead some Projection Mapping is used to indicate which of the three doors you're going through:

 

[Touchdown]

True the track doesn't rotate it is an illusion created by the movement of the walls and the doors, but that added complexity is still part of the reason it craps out so often.

But as I was trying to say in the first post, the wall no longer moves. They use projections to change out the room you go in.

 

[Trauma]

Can someone explain why they can’t just skip the scheduled Maintenance they normally do since they don’t care to upkeep it anyways, and keep it open until Tron is ready?

Doesn’t that make more sense from a capacity standpoint?

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Can someone explain why they can’t just skip the scheduled Maintenance they normally do since they don’t care to upkeep it anyways, and keep it open until Tron is ready?

Doesn’t that make more sense from a capacity standpoint?

They are skipping the "scheduled maintenance" - instead of closing in January to recieve that as usual, this time the ride is closing for good. There won't be any maintenance to it beyond what is required to get the facility ready for its grand reopening as Tiana's Bayou Adventure.

As for the timing of the closure, it does seem odd that they wouldn't wait until TRON was online to close the ride, so presumably there's some reason for it. It may simply need to close in January if they want any real shot at reopening before the end of 2024, giving them just shy of 2 years to complete the transformation.

 

[EagleScout610]

Yeah they have to hit the ground running.

Actual footage of Disney "Running"

 

[Tjaden]

Actual footage of Disney "Running"
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"So...Manos the hands of fate"

 

[EagleScout610]

"So...Manos the hands of fate"

"So what are we, half hour into this film?"
"Nah, only like a minute"
"...No"

 

[matt9112]

I think the opening of Tron helps absorb the crowds as a result of it's closure so perhaps thats why WDW is first

I’m pretty sure TRONs capacity is nowhere near splash mountains. Not that it’s relevant I actually wish they closed rides more often for real refurbs.

The MK needs a lot more capacity over all.

 

[matt9112]

1000%.

A Mickey short except instead of sitting in your living room your at disney world? That’s an expensive cartoon.

 

[Touchdown]

For all the people complaining about Splash’s lost capacity please stop. Rides need maintenance, and need to close sometime, they can’t run 365 forever without compromising safety. I know this isnt technically a close for maintenance but for cripes sake the “lost capacity” argument to stop a closure is as bad and as wrong as the “no not when I’m going that’s not fair!” argument. Please stop.

 

[EagleScout610]

Can someone explain why they can’t just skip the scheduled Maintenance they normally do since they don’t care to upkeep it anyways, and keep it open until Tron is ready?

Doesn’t that make more sense from a capacity standpoint?

They would have skipped the month rehab Splash usually receives in January anyway, even if they were still gonna close after Tron. There's no point in reopening Splash 1.0 in February, just to close again in March this time for the Tiana makeover.

 

[matt9112]

Why the hate for the entrepreneur backstory?

It’s ugly? And just….not what anyone really would have said is the best option…there’s so much better material out there. Heck at the finale they could have still had her and the gang in front of her factory or something to that effect…but the whole ride themed to it seems like an odd choice.

Villain comes to steal your soul “the guests in the log” tiana and friends try to stop him along the way…..friends from the other side replaces the birds….final drop is you thinking your done for….celebrate at end in front of tianas factory.

Entire idea would keep ride pacing completely intact (your just swapping out fox and bear with tiana and friends) ruining the attempts by the doctor to get your soul. Culminating with a climax where it looks like he has finally succeeded and than splash down.

 

[matt9112]

For all the people complaining about Splash’s lost capacity please stop. Rides need maintenance, and need to close sometime, they can’t run 365 forever without compromising safety. I know this isnt technically a close for maintenance but for cripes sake the “lost capacity” argument to stop a closure is as bad and as wrong as the “no not when I’m going that’s not fair!” argument. Please stop.

Well splash closes regularly for maintaining….the bare minimum lately. But to counter your argument WDW never seems to want to close rides ever to do exactly what your talking about. There’s legitimate upgrades for WDW rides that haven’t occurred because they don’t want to close the ride down…. Disney seems reluctant to ever close rides down in Florida.

Because…..they know the capacity of the most popular theme park on the planet is utter trash…..and I’m not talking about push.

 

[JohnD]

It's going to be based on the Avery Island salt dome.

No, that's not a joke.

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Oh and it collapsed recently and killed some people. So that'll be fun for the clickbait.

I'd laugh if that wasn't so tragic.

 

[_caleb]

It’s ugly? And just….not what anyone really would have said is the best option…there’s so much better material out there. Heck at the finale they could have still had her and the gang in front of her factory or something to that effect…but the whole ride themed to it seems like an odd choice.

Villain comes to steal your soul “the guests in the log” tiana and friends try to stop him along the way…..friends from the other side replaces the birds….final drop is you thinking your done for….celebrate at end in front of tianas factory.

Entire idea would keep ride pacing completely intact (your just swapping out fox and bear with tiana and friends) ruining the attempts by the doctor to get your soul. Culminating with a climax where it looks like he has finally succeeded and than splash down.

I don’t see how the ”Tiana is an entrepreneur” backstory precludes–or even affects—anything you’ve written here.

 

[matt9112]

Will the Splash logs be reused like Elsa’s stinky, faded, rundown Norway boats?


God No, I hope not again.

What is there, perhaps 50 logs???
@ $5,000 each ???

Whatever the number is it can’t be that much money relative to the total costs to get this thing redone. This project will be at least 100 million, right?

They put $60 million into Haunted Mansion and that was back in over a decade ago.

No way we get new logs I would legitimately put a months pay on that bet.

They probably will all get cleaned and (hopefully touched up) but I’m not even sure if they would do that.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I don’t see how the ”Tiana is an entrepreneur” backstory precludes–or even affects—anything you’ve written here.

Word on the street is that Facilier won't be included because he's deemed "problematic."

 

[flynnibus]

For all the people complaining about Splash’s lost capacity please stop. Rides need maintenance, and need to close sometime, they can’t run 365 forever without compromising safety. I know this isnt technically a close for maintenance but for cripes sake the “lost capacity” argument to stop a closure is as bad and as wrong as the “no not when I’m going that’s not fair!” argument. Please stop.

‘Rides need maintenance’ is usually weeks hit on operations- not YEARS

And if they were not running at such a deficit already then it would not be a problem.

They could have you know… done something to offset it?

So no, people shouldn’t just ‘stop it’ when it is s valid concern the company should have managed better

 

[Touchdown]

Your complaint is with lack of additional attractions, your wish to keep attractions open w/o maintenance is dangerous and allows the company to avoid building new attractions.