News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[Buried20KLeague]

Well, it was inevitable that it was gonna close in January. Sad to see Splash Mountain go, but it is what it is now. The concept art looks better then what was shown before. Not sure how Disneyland’s is gonna be done by late 2024 if they don’t close that one soon as well.

They might as well close the DL one like, yeaterday. I rode it 5 or 6 weeks ago and so many things were broken that they literally just turned the lights out for the first half of the ride. We just went through 2 or 3 pitch black rooms with background music playing.

 

[larryz]

The ride is apparently a "prequel" to the D+ series. New characters from the series will also appear in the ride. I'm guessing some of them are the ones from this image (just a safe assumption)-

Unless there are cameos of Hubig's Pies, it just won't be authentic.

 

[larryz]

When she gets more money, she’ll build Tiana Tower and start selling Tiana Steaks and found the questionable Tiana University.

I’m starting to rethink my opinion of Tiana…

You're Fired!™

 

[larryz]

OTOH, I told my daughter today about the retheme. Tiana is her favorite princess, so she's excited. And fortunately for her, she's 7, so she won't have detailed memories of Splash to compare it to...

And she'll likely be 14 before she can experience it...

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Disney paid $4 Billion for Marvel, $4.05 Billion for Lucasfilm, $7.4 Billion for Pixar,

The Fox deal was $71.3 Billion. That’s why they’re putting so much stock in Avatar 2 being a success.

The Avatar Sequel Is a Make-or-Break Moment for Disney’s $71 Billion Fox Deal

Returning boss Bob Iger oversaw the 2019 purchase. A December premiere will help indicate whether he overpaid.

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Iger overpaid for Fox, especially when his primary motivator was to get the Fox Marvel rights (Fantastic 4 and X-Men) back under the control of Marvel Studios.

Certain parts of Fox, the ones that are redundant, will be sold off to stop the bleeding. Disney can’t afford to just shutter them, as they did LucasArts and LucasBooks after that acquisition.

(Btw, ending lucasarts was one of the dumbest decisions Disney ever made…but that’s another topic for another thread)

I got the impression the primary motivator was Hulu, the Fox catalog was just the icing on the cake.

 

[celluloid]

My favorite new character is Supestar Limo Sylvester Stalone

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

The “salt mine” storyline is an improvement? They were given additional funding for the attraction and that’s still the best they could come up with? Seriously??

Yikes.

I doubt the salt mine backstory affected the budget. It's just something Carter's team seems insistent on having to try and justify why there's a tall hill in a swampy area. A stupid idea for sure, but so far I'm not seeing much about that idea that would impact the budget either way. Looking at the model, I would not be able to figure out that a salt mine was even part of the story without being told.

If we're fortunate, that aspect of the ride will mostly be contained to the queue and a couple corners of the exterior. But even the exterior is still themed to look like a bayou. If that new piece of art is any indication, the interior also seems to be focused on the bayou setting as well. And I also assume that is where the budget is going. Which again would be a good thing, since the first concept they pitched called for a mass gutting of the interior. Leaving behind empty dark rooms, scarce AA's and video projections for most if not all of the scenery and characters.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Iger overpaid for Fox, especially when his primary motivator was to get the Fox Marvel rights (Fantastic 4 and X-Men) back under the control of Marvel Studios.

That's not the case.

Fox was bought for the European infrastructure so that D+ can be taken internationally.

Secondly it was for controlling share of Hulu.

Thirdly, for its several TV and movie studios to make content for D+ and theatrical release.

Fourthly, for 20th Century and Searchlight to make adult and award-winning movies (which was something Disney was missing).

And finally, for its back catalogue to put on the streamers and raid its IP for future content.

Fox Marvel was a bonus, not a feature. Just look how long it's been taking to get around to the Marvel/Fox properties.

The parts of Fox that Disney doesn't need has already been sold off (sports networks) or written off (European linear channels were thrown out) or consolidated. There's nothing extraneous to sell.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I’ve been listening to all the talking heads spouting their rumors from “insiders” and just played it like a game of telephone.

There’s got to be a kernel of truth about a pending asset sale, but everyone jumped to the most extreme conclusion.

None of our reliable 'insiders' have been saying that.

The Internet is a giant echo chamber. We just had people post how several sites were indicating that the FL legislature was backing off of nixing RCID... all those sites were reporting the one source saying it. But, people were starting to be convinced of its veracity because so many places were saying it.

But it was just one source. This happens all. the. time.

Multiple mouth pieces doesn't mean multiple sources.

 

[JoeCamel]

None of our reliable 'insiders' have been saying that.

The Internet is a giant echo chamber. We just had people post how several sites were indicating that the FL legislature was backing off of nixing RCID... all those sites were reporting the one source saying it. But, people were starting to be convinced of its veracity because so many places were saying it.

But it was just one source. This happens all. the. time.

Multiple mouth pieces doesn't mean multiple sources.

And often the one source had it wrong or made it up......

 

[Incomudro]

None of our reliable 'insiders' have been saying that.

The Internet is a giant echo chamber. We just had people post how several sites were indicating that the FL legislature was backing off of nixing RCID... all those sites were reporting the one source saying it. But, people were starting to be convinced of its veracity because so many places were saying it.

But it was just one source. This happens all. the. time.

Multiple mouth pieces doesn't mean multiple sources.

"Lots of bad evidence doesn't add up to good evidence."

Carl Sagan

 

[thomas998]

Given the new movie, I don't see why they wouldn't as sort of a tie in.

Little doubt they will do some tie in... but that doesn't solve the problem with Indy. As I understand it the rotating track at the beginning is the reason the ride has so much down time, and unless they redo that and make rather major modifications to the ride any tie in junk isn't going to make the ride more reliable. They have had issues pretty much since the ride opened and done lots of refurbs over the years, but never anything to address the reliability issues.

 

[Touchdown]

Little doubt they will do some tie in... but that doesn't solve the problem with Indy. As I understand it the rotating track at the beginning is the reason the ride has so much down time, and unless they redo that and make rather major modifications to the ride any tie in junk isn't going to make the ride more reliable. They have had issues pretty much since the ride opened and done lots of refurbs over the years, but never anything to address the reliability issues.

Track doesn’t rotate anymore, all projections.

 

[_caleb]

Track doesn’t rotate anymore, all projections.

But the track never moved, right? @thomas998, were you referring to the walls moving?

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[Touchdown]

But the track never moved, right? @thomas998, were you referring to the walls moving?

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Yes

 

[Disneyfanman]

It’s always been an effect that was down more than up. Really cool in concept if you saw it but I maybe saw it 2X in 20 years. I don’t think it hurt the impact of the ride overall. The other broken effects do that. I haven’t been on it in awhile, but my friends say that it’s so bad they should close it now for major work.

 

[TwilightZone]

But the track never moved, right? @thomas998, were you referring to the walls moving?

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Honestly, every time I've been on it I have only got the chamber of earthly riches. I am sure that's probably the case for a lot of people. Cool effect, but doesn't really effect the ride in the long run. Would not mind seeing this cut if it meant for a better ride experience.

 

[flynnibus]

I just worry about the factors that really make such a project such an uphill fight…

- Taking out a multi-generational favorite, so expectations are high
- taking down a capacity monster - so there is pressure on timelines
- a project started as a replacement, not because the concept was so strong on it’s own. Constraints alone are difficult, but to add in the pinch-hitter concept too? Alot of headwind there
- a project that requires touching basically everything in one of the largest attractions in the park. Basically scale alone makes properly funding a project like this difficult
- and now we are facing a financially competitive period where the company is facing huge external scrutiny and upheaval.

It would appear to do this well given the scale and pressures they would have to spend like it’s a marquee new attraction… not just a repurposed one. Do we have confidence that’s what the company is fully committed to?

Forget the target subject matter… just the big pieces make this a scary future to face

 

[thomas998]

Track doesn’t rotate anymore, all projections.

True the track doesn't rotate it is an illusion created by the movement of the walls and the doors, but that added complexity is still part of the reason it craps out so often.

 

[thomas998]

But the track never moved, right? @thomas998, were you referring to the walls moving?

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Yes, the walls are what moves. Though most people assume the track moves unless they've looked at one of the how it's done videos. I just went with what I expected people to be familiar with.