This is true. It is really not at all different from lot of other attractions at the domestic parks right now.
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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure
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This is true. It is really not at all different from lot of other attractions at the domestic parks right now.
Tha Realest
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You could say that Splash Mountain (1989) performing far better than Rise of the Resistance (2019) and the former doesn’t cost $20 per ride and is 30 years older!
I can imagine that opening of Tiana can be delayed from "Late 2024" to beyond, but I don't think closing of Splash will be delayed
Surferboy567
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Are we expecting them to announce a closing? Or is it just going to unceremoniously not be around after the January closure/refurb?
I don’t see how Splash lasts past the January closure/refurb.
I don’t see how Splash lasts past the January closure/refurb.
UNCgolf
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I'm not exaggerating -- the effects on the ride are (or at least were) essentially falling apart. I wasn't talking about the ride system itself or suggesting it was dangerous.
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gerarar
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Surprisingly (when it shouldn't be), they are actively fixing the effects on Rise as they come up, like overnight or within a day or two at most. Kylo AA has become much much reliable in recent months that it's in A-mode more than B-mode. This is the way it should be, for any ride.
Only exception is the cannons of course lol.
Also seems like majority of the issues with Dinosaur was eventually resolved, only took like a couple months..
Really sad to see how Splash has been left to rot tho, show-wise.
They have many more hours a night to fix it. Not to mention all the after-hour events MK has in comparison.
I am sure there is less care to bring Splash back up to any big par than good faith as they know the end is likely near, but its no different really than the state of affairs that Carousel of Progress, Big Thunder and many other MK situations are in.
Disney Glimpses
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Both. The project will cost at a minimum $200 million between the parks. They are already cancelling studio projects. Layoffs are on the horizon and they already announced the pull back of $500 million in capital expenditures for 2023. And any cash left over will be directed to save the DTC business.
Now, they may still close it on time as it was suggested above and then simply slow play the refurb (they will have the capacity to do so after Tron opens). But I would not expect this attraction to open until 2026.
The truth is, regardless of which side of this debate you are on, it would be ridiculously terrible optics to proceed with an unnecessary re-theme (from a financial standpoint) after laying off thousands of employees across the company.
Which is why I think they will find as much cash as possible to minimize the need for a reduction in labor. The first place to start is unstarted and less financially forgivable projects.
Tha Realest
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Also, from an operational / capacity standpoint, this ride is a workhorse. Taking that offline for 2 years given current capacity issues* may be untenable.
*yes, they are opening Tron, but we have no idea how reliable it will prove to be.
Disney Glimpses
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Good point. In reality though, I think attraction is important to them and it will ultimately happen (indisputably). I could see the timeline being pushed 12 months though in an effort to save some jobs while this storm is weathered.
UNCgolf
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I think TRON's capacity is also lower than Splash Mountain's. The TRON hourly capacity may be slightly higher (I'm not sure about that), but Splash Mountain is 8 minutes long; TRON is about 60 seconds. That makes a big difference.
I also think Splash has a larger customer base than TRON -- Splash does have the big drop, but the ride is nowhere near as intense overall as a roller coaster, and TRON's seating is apparently an issue as well? I'm just speculating, but I'd be very surprised if there weren't a higher percentage of MK guests interested in riding Splash Mountain on any given day than will be interested in riding TRON.
Of course that latter concern doesn't matter as much if the rides are full all day every day anyways.
Tha Realest
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That's a good point. I think Tron's audience is also more self-limiting, both from the roller coaster aspect as well as the expected VQ/ILL arrangement.
UNCgolf
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I believe it has a higher height requirement as well -- not positive about this but I think it's 48" to Splash Mountain's 40".
Being a VQ/ILL will make the rest of the park busier too, since no one will actually be waiting in line to ride. A trade off from standby Splash Mountain to all VQ (if that's what they do) TRON will have a significant negative effect on MK crowding.
SailorMercury
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They’ve only had Star Wars bought out for 10 years. They didn’t start doing IP based lands until A Bugs Land so it seems about the right amount of time for Star Wars to be done by Disney.
Studio projects "in development" get "canceled" all the time; part of the time, because the people working on it move onto other things, or, because they just chose not to start it.
What studio project was actually greenlit and is now cancelled?
The hiring freeze is so as not to have to do layoffs.
The announcement of hiring freeze is, IMO, just a bone to throw to Wall Street.
Chapek and co. are confident in where they are, but Wall Street is systematically punishing all streamers for not giving them huge dividends right now.
Since the announcement of how much Capex they said they were going to spend at the last quarterly? Where is this info from?
The DTC business is just fine. They knew that this year would be peak losses (as part of their loss-leading strategy). Sub hikes and an ad tier are coming to turn things around. And their guidance is still that DTC will be profitable come 2024. As they've been saying for the past 3 years.
_caleb
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Most people don't know this, but they replaced the Kylo Ren AA with a Cal State Fullerton grad student named Kip (non-Equity). Except for his smoke breaks, Kip is much more reliable than the AA ever was–even in B mode.
Incomudro
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I can't believe how much motion used to be in the figures on this ride.
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