SailorMercury
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Dig a Little Deeper from PatF solos the Splash soundtrack lmao.
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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure
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SailorMercury
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Yeah. Journey Into Imagination With Figment has been around for 20. A beloved, classic, staple of imagineering excellence as we all know.
"Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened" - Dr. Seuss
I was talking with Marni the other day and he says very very early January (Think before the 15th) is when Splash Mountain says goodbye.
MerlinTheGoat
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Routine reminder (since it is often forgotten) that Phil is a troll and you shouldn't take anything he says seriously. This is the same person who once said that adherence to theme isn't important and it would be a good idea to put ridiculous things like Guardians of the Galaxy in Frontierland.
BrerFoxesBayouAdventure
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Not even the best song in the film. That's easily Friends from the Other Side and the reprisal of it later in the film goes hard.
Thanks for clarifying, honestly couldn't tell because there are people that genuinely believe that and will speak their mind on it on social media.
_caleb
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Why are you clogging up this Splash Mountain thread with photos of a random salt mine?
Sharon&Susan
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Pretty sure that's just a hill with a dead tree stump on top.
Brer Oswald
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I'm from the Jersey shore, so, that's a mountain to me!!
Bocabear
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Me too! Grew up on LBI
_caleb
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BrerFoxesBayouAdventure
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Cool! I'm in the smack-dab center of the state.
Phil12
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The problem with your assertion is that a troll does not take you seriously. A troll is not really arguing or putting forth valid points, but is rather just laughing at you. Trolls attempt to lure other forum members into arguments and conflicts with the bait of absurd or completely false declarations designed to do nothing but raise the ire of other members. That is clearly not my intent.
As for your example, Guardians of the Galaxy would fit perfectly in Frontierland. After all, fiction is the highest form of entertainment at Disney. Dolls, ghosts and animals that can sing and dance are proof of that fiction. We know from the fictional
Captain James T. Kirk that space is the final frontier. Hence Guardians of the Galaxy fits perfectly in Frontierland and far away better than CBJ.
And back to Splash, it's a great long flume. But the clever bunny, stupid bear and evil fox portraying negative stereotypes do nothing to make the flume ride more exciting. Any theme could be put in that ride and still work. If it wasn't already used elsewhere, Guardians of the Galaxy would work as a wonderful theme for Splash. It could tell the story of how intrepid space travelers discovered water on the planet Mars and made base camps possible for explorers from Earth to set about exploring the final frontier.
Oh, I almost forgot:
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LittleBuford
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If I take you at your word and assume you’re not trolling, this argument rests on a different understanding of the word “frontier” from the one relevant to Frontierland, which is very obviously rooted in the idea of the historical American frontier. From this perspective, Guardians of the Galaxy would be a singularly bad thematic fit. This seems so patently self-evident that I can’t help but feel you’re being disingenuous.
MerlinTheGoat
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He has said a LOT of other asinine things besides that. Even Martin/marni1971 (who usually has a lot of patience with people and stays away from drama and directly singling people out for foolishness) has also called him out over his trolling BS before and questioned why mods haven't banned him. So yes, Phil is indeed a troll and should be routinely ignored.
And yeah, Frontierland is very explicitly based off the classic American frontier. Space exploration is kept in its own separate sections for good reason.
Phil12
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You may indeed take me at my word. I would say that since Robert Goddard launched the first liquid fueled rocket in the USA back in 1926, most consider that event to be the start of the space age. Therefore that event is definitely part of the historical American frontier. The historical American frontier did not abruptly stop at the turn of the 20th century.
And while the American west had many real frontiersmen, it had many more fictional ones, some of which have been used by Disney such as Zorro, Pecos Bill and Slue-Foot Sue.
I think Guardians of the Galaxy works well because of the IP value. But as we know, it is already in use elsewhere as is Buzz Lightyear. However, the point is that Princess and the Frog will work just as well as any of the others, including anything space age related. It's the job of the Disney writers to make it fit just as they did with CBJ.
Phil12
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You're categorically wrong. When Tomorrowland was created back in 1955, space exploration was rather new. Now, space exploration is commonplace. Men and women from all over the globe have been to space. There are ten people in space right now and some have been there for a year while others have been there for more than 1.5 years. Even William Shatner went to space.
Space exploration is a wonderful part of American history and the American frontier. It's also a wonderful part of Russian history and their frontier. And the same can be said of many other countries around the world.
I admit that we (as a people) haven't gone too far in space yet but by the same token we haven't explored too far in the depths of our own planet. We have a lot left to learn. Nothing in Tomorrowland deals with the future. The closest thing they had was Alien Encounter and Stitch's Great Escape.
And CoP is nothing more than a commercial for GE. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with crass commercialization at Disney parks but I think they should be pointed out for what they are.
Now Tron is almost perfect in that it is pure science fiction. Again, it has nothing to do with the future. Let's face it, Disney has never done a good job at predicting the future mainly because the attractions take so long to develop, by the time they open the theme has become history!
I like that you used the term "classic American frontier" to describe your feelings in this matter.
LittleBuford
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Walt Disney’s own dedication plaque makes clear what the land is based on:
Here we experience the story of our country’s past … the colorful drama of Frontier America in the exciting days of the covered wagon and the stagecoach … the advent of the railroad … and the romantic riverboat. Frontierland is a tribute to the faith, courage, and ingenuity of the pioneers who blazed the trails across America.
To be sure, the land is not entirely faithful to its mission, as it contains elements that relate to the South and to the twentieth century. Its overall feel, however, is undoubtedly that of the historical American frontier (or at least a highly romanticised notion of it). I really can’t tell why you’re claiming the contrary. If you are being serious, I can only conclude that the land’s thematic integrity as it is currently constituted means nothing to you. Your argument is akin to stating that an Apple Store belongs on Main St. USA because it is a feature of the modern American high street.
Elijah Abrams
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Over at Disneyland in California, this T-shirt got restocked, and it has Br'er Rabbit on it. I hope this is a good sign.
LittleBuford
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A sign of what?
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