News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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_caleb

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I don’t understand why book-report retellings have come to be so disparaged. No-one seems to have minded this approach in the past, when it was standard. Even Splash Mountain in its current form follows the book-report format.
I didn’t mean it as a negative. I think some book report retellings are well done. I was asking if that was his issue with the Tiana info we have so far.
 

UNCgolf

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I personally enjoy it and don’t consider it badly designed.

Even if you like the ride, Elsa singing Let It Go at the ice palace makes no sense in terms of the ride's supposed plot/story. It only works if it's taking place during Frozen and not after.

That's not really my issue with the ride, though. I just think it's barren as though they quit building it halfway through and said "good enough, let's open it!".
 

erasure fan1

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I'd love to hang out with human Tiana and her prince in the bayou, they didn't spend enough time as humans in the movie and that would make up for the mistake (and move merch).
And there lies the dilemma. I know people who will be extremely disappointed if the frogs don't feature in the ride. It's a tough nut to crack for sure. Whatever they do, it has huge shoes to fill so it better be great.
 

LittleBuford

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It's basically the same:

Scene 1) Olaf singing Would You like to Build a Snow Man
Scene 2) Rock trolls discuss the Frozen ending
Scene 3) Ice castle in the distance
Scene 4) Olaf skating
Scene 5) Ana/Kristoff singing First Time in Forever
Scene 6) Elsa singing Let it Go (Cold Never Bothered me Anyway)
Scene 7) Abominable snowman
Scene 8) Back in Arendelle
Scene 9) Ana/Elsa/Olaf singing
Sure, there's a certain symmetry in terms of when the songs occur, but none of the major plot points of Frozen are featured in the ride. The king and queen don't die, Elsa doesn't struggle to contain her powers and flee once they're revealed, Anna isn't seduced by a prince who turns out to be the villain, the sisters don't save each other's lives through love, etc. We're really stretching the concept of "book-report retelling" if we insist on applying it to Frozen Ever After.
 

Sir_Cliff

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I always interpreted it as Elsa returning to the palace after the events of the film.
One of the reasons I like the approach to FEA is that it's one recent attraction in which they haven't tied themselves in knots trying to develop a linear story that makes literal sense at the expense of giving people what they want in a fun ride. In this case, you can fill in your own blanks as to why she was in the ice palace: Who knows, maybe she just likes to go up there to sing by herself sometimes? I don't think the ride would have been any better if they showed her in a different palace without the images from the film singing the same song and certainly not if they cut the song altogether because that already happened in the film and she would be in a different state of mind now.

It works, I think, precisely because it's just a ride through the world of the film with just the loosest of stories to tie it all together and that allows them the best of all worlds by being able to show all the things people liked in the film without literally having to recreate its plot.

What worries me from what we've heard about Tiana is that the story is coming at the expensive of making the most fun and engaging ride they can.
 

Jrb1979

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One of the reasons I like the approach to FEA is that it's one recent attraction in which they haven't tied themselves in knots trying to develop a linear story that makes literal sense at the expense of giving people what they want in a fun ride. In this case, you can fill in your own blanks as to why she was in the ice palace: Who knows, maybe she just likes to go up there to sing by herself sometimes? I don't think the ride would have been any better if they showed her in a different palace without the images from the film singing the same song and certainly not if they cut the song altogether because that already happened in the film and she would be in a different state of mind now.

It works, I think, precisely because it's just a ride through the world of the film with just the loosest of stories to tie it all together and that allows them the best of all worlds by being able to show all the things people liked in the film without literally having to recreate its plot.

What worries me from what we've heard about Tiana is that the story is coming at the expensive of making the most fun and engaging ride they can.
I'm wondering if it's due to the fact there is a mountain as part of the original attraction. They need some reason why it's there.
 

Sir_Cliff

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I'm wondering if it's due to the fact there is a mountain as part of the original attraction. They need some reason why it's there.
I really don't think they need to worry too much about explaining it. Georgia isn't exactly mountainous and no-one has cared for all the years Splash Mountain has been there. I really think if Disney doesn't focus on it, most guests won't really think about it. In this regard, perhaps things like the water tower (minus the crown) and tall trees out front are enough just in de-emphasizing the hight of the ride.
 

DisneyDodo

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I really don't think they need to worry too much about explaining it. Georgia isn't exactly mountainous and no-one has cared for all the years Splash Mountain has been there. I really think if Disney doesn't focus on it, most guests won't really think about it. In this regard, perhaps things like the water tower (minus the crown) and tall trees out front are enough just in de-emphasizing the hight of the ride.
I agree that they don’t need to explicitly explain the existence of the mountain, but they do need some sort of plot device to explain why you’re going up and down in the ride.

But I’m not sure I could have conjured up a duller concept for the elevation than “you’re in a salt mine” if I tried. Like, they literally chose the thing that’s used as a metaphor for “boring labor.”
 

Incomudro

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One of the reasons I like the approach to FEA is that it's one recent attraction in which they haven't tied themselves in knots trying to develop a linear story that makes literal sense at the expense of giving people what they want in a fun ride. In this case, you can fill in your own blanks as to why she was in the ice palace: Who knows, maybe she just likes to go up there to sing by herself sometimes? I don't think the ride would have been any better if they showed her in a different palace without the images from the film singing the same song and certainly not if they cut the song altogether because that already happened in the film and she would be in a different state of mind now.

It works, I think, precisely because it's just a ride through the world of the film with just the loosest of stories to tie it all together and that allows them the best of all worlds by being able to show all the things people liked in the film without literally having to recreate its plot.

What worries me from what we've heard about Tiana is that the story is coming at the expensive of making the most fun and engaging ride they can.
Precisely.
 

Animaniac93-98

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But I’m not sure I could have conjured up a duller concept for the elevation than “you’re in a salt mine” if I tried. Like, they literally chose the thing that’s used as a metaphor for “boring labor.”

Is it for synergy with Pinocchio? Maybe all the boys who got turned into donkeys work for Tiana now? 😦

pinocchio daring journey.PNG
 

Kirby86

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I really don't think they need to worry too much about explaining it. Georgia isn't exactly mountainous and no-one has cared for all the years Splash Mountain has been there. I really think if Disney doesn't focus on it, most guests won't really think about it. In this regard, perhaps things like the water tower (minus the crown) and tall trees out front are enough just in de-emphasizing the hight of the ride.
Well Georgia does have part of the Appalachian Mountains. But if the ride is fun I agree that I don't think people would mind a hill in a Princess and the Frog ride.
 

LittleBuford

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One of the reasons I like the approach to FEA is that it's one recent attraction in which they haven't tied themselves in knots trying to develop a linear story that makes literal sense at the expense of giving people what they want in a fun ride. In this case, you can fill in your own blanks as to why she was in the ice palace: Who knows, maybe she just likes to go up there to sing by herself sometimes? I don't think the ride would have been any better if they showed her in a different palace without the images from the film singing the same song and certainly not if they cut the song altogether because that already happened in the film and she would be in a different state of mind now.

It works, I think, precisely because it's just a ride through the world of the film with just the loosest of stories to tie it all together and that allows them the best of all worlds by being able to show all the things people liked in the film without literally having to recreate its plot.

What worries me from what we've heard about Tiana is that the story is coming at the expensive of making the most fun and engaging ride they can.
Perfectly said—I couldn’t agree more!
 
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