Jrb1979
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IMO they are trying way to hard on this backstory. Your average guest most likely doesn't care about stuff like that. They care more that it's a Tiana ride and the ride is fun.
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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure
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Brer Oswald
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They’ll care way more about the drop than anything else. Which has been the main draw for the attraction since opening.
DisneyDodo
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It’s not that they’re incompatible, it’s just that there’s an unnecessary leap from the film. If the ride takes place after the movie, let the movie itself serve as the backstory. We have a whole film dedicated to Tiana’s pursuits of opening a restaurant. Now we get a glimpse into future Tiana and… she’s already moved past that? And she’s working on a project we’ve never been introduced to before? It just feels like they’re wasting the IP.
Jrb1979
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Unfortunately thats how it feels with a lot of newest attractions. They try so hard to make an IP work in places it doesn't fit or work. I blame on those at the top. All that matters is merch sales. They rush to get shoehorn IP where ever they can.
_caleb
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Yes!
Fun fact: the Latin/Italian version of the word, Carnevale, literally means “removing the meat.” Some say this is because the fast during Lent typically involved abstaining from eating meat. "Mardi gras" is the French version, but in English, it’s known as "Shrove Tuesday" (though I don’t know anyone who actually calls it that).
I assume they will not be giving out beaded necklaces on the ride.
LittleBuford
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You hear it referred to as such in the UK, where it’s also (and more popularly) known as Pancake Day.
Incomudro
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And why remove things from the movie - Mama Odie/Facilier - that were a tremendous part of the movie?
JohnD
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Catholic and Anglican churches may have a Shrove Tuesday Pancake supper. Pancakes symbolizing unleavened bread, of course.
JohnD
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We're told it takes place immediately following the movie. Don't both die in the movie?
LittleBuford
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The woman voicing Mama Odie will return for the ride, so I think we can rest assured the the character herself will be featured.
The post-Vatican II Roman Catholic Church has no official liturgical recognition of Shrove/Fat Tuesday//Mardi Gras. It's just a Tuesday.
Just about everything anyone has ever heard or participated in with regard to that day is all local custom and tradition. Which differs greatly from culture to culture.
Just because local clergy participated in it and may even have encouraged it has nothing to do with official liturgical practices, but is a manifestation of the clerics' own cultural upbringing.
One major throughline of most cultures' Mardi Gras celebrations is to party hard and feast big in anticipation of the 40 days of Lent, which used to be very strict with days of abstinence (from meat) and fasting (not eating *at all* for the day -- current practice pretty much ignores that and allows for one or more "small meals.")
NOLA has parlayed that into a two month long festival season for themselves and for the tourist money.
The eating of pancakes comes from cleaning out one's larder of milk and butter since in some cultures at some times they excluded rich dairy products during Lent. Equating that with unleavened bread seems to be a backwards etymology conflating that with the Jewish practice of clearing out their cupboards of all leaven/leavening products in anticipation of Passover, during which only unleavened bread can be eaten. Except for the unleavened bread that is used and consecrated at Mass, the Roman Catholic church has no dietary laws for eating leavened or unleavened bread in one's home at any time of the year.
Aw man, you ruined it for me! I had a big rant planned for an unfounded assumption!1!!!
Joel
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God bless you, @LittleBuford.
_caleb
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BTW I suspected that you did this at least a time or two in the past!
Incomudro
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Which is a stupid premise.
Why make a ride take place immediately after the movie, if doing so removes key elements about what made that movie enjoyable?
Incomudro
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I hope so.
_caleb
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On the model, it looks like they’ve attempted to make the top of the mountain look like a treetop, and the opening where the logs come out at the top of the drop into a tree trunk.
The effect isn’t obvious, especially due to the mountainy part on the sides of the “tree.” But it they’re indeed trying to do this, it would visually make the mountain appear shorter, and as though it had a big tree on top.
Anyone else seeing this, or is it just me?
The effect isn’t obvious, especially due to the mountainy part on the sides of the “tree.” But it they’re indeed trying to do this, it would visually make the mountain appear shorter, and as though it had a big tree on top.
Anyone else seeing this, or is it just me?
_caleb
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Oh, I mean this as a good thing. I imagine Mister Penguin having an entire database of factoids and pithy pre-written posts just ready for when someone posts something factually uninformed/incorrect. Or for when @Sirwalterraleigh get especially frustrated with Kathleen Kennedy.ok
Personally, I appreciate your posts and posting style.
_caleb
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Would you prefer a book report-style retelling of the film’s plot?
I’m not sure we know whether they’re removing key elements from what made the movie enjoyable. But I supposed that’s possible.
A ride set immediately after the story in the film is probably the simplest way to leverage the films‘ storytelling efforts while also making something “new” (that will also introduce new characters, outfits, and music for them to sell).
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