News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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SplashJacket

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but the movie never showed her actually running the business as a CEO in an employee -owned company....because in 1927 so many businesses had women CEOs and were employee owned.... ugh
I have no issue with that. I have an issue with cringe. Splash is a thrill attraction, if the whole ride is “yayyyyyyyyy we love Tiana” that’s a terrible ride. Rides need conflict. Pooh has Heffalumps and Woozles and a flood. Peter Pan has Captain Hook. Snow White had the witch. You need opposition. If they want to use Tiana’s business adventure’s as a launching point for conflict (like Facilier continuing to haunt her), that’s not an issue.

If the whole ride is just “yay, yay, yay” like FEA, it’s gonna be a dud. There’s nothing inherently wrong about the ride being about a celebration, but there is an issue with the ride just being a celebration, especially one as long as Splash.

If they don’t include Facilier in a prominent way, it’s a crime.
 

crazy4disney

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Okay, but real talk: what will we actually call this since the name is terrible. Currently, my family says, “wanna go ride Splash?”

I don’t think “let’s go ride Tiana“ is the move.

“Let’s go ride Bayou”?
”Let’s go ride Adventure”?

I need guidance in my life for hard-hitting questions such as this.
I still call HS MGM so you have my answer lol
 

BlakeW39

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Ugh, Disney making such a mistake here. Another cheap IP story book ride for small children. Not sure why they'd make their most thrilling ride based on Tiana but, someone let me know if they like it once it opens, because IF I go back I definitely will not be riding the attraction. And I have minimal reason to back except for DAK
 

Sir_Cliff

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*Faciellier appears in a suit* I'm afraid your stocks are going to..... *Plummet*
[Cue big drop]
I think this is my favourite idea so far!

To be fair, that Tiana has a thriving business is not unreasonable as part of the backstory. What we know of this backstory, though, does seem very much like the kind of over-complicated backstory that Disney specialises in these days: Tiana's restaurant was going so well that she decided to expand her business to a food processing company but, don't worry, it's a good one that is employee owned. As part of this effort to expand her business and brand, she also bought a salt mine. So, that's why you're now riding through a salt mine on the way to Tiana's party.

It just seems a bit... forced.
 

Tha Realest

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I think this is my favourite idea so far!

To be fair, that Tiana has a thriving business is not unreasonable as part of the backstory. What we know of this backstory, though, does seem very much like the kind of over-complicated backstory that Disney specialises in these days: Tiana's restaurant was going so well that she decided to expand her business to a food processing company but, don't worry, it's a good one that is employee owned. As part of this effort to expand her business and brand, she also bought a salt mine. So, that's why you're now riding through a salt mine on the way to Tiana's party.

It just seems a bit... forced.
Yes, because agricultural / food processing wasn’t problematic or exploitative in the late 19th/early 20th century - heck, even today!
 

Tha Realest

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I mean, look what current management did with a billion dollar cruise boat. Why wouldn’t they screw up a perfect ride when their hand was suddenly pushed by external forces?
 

Fox&Hound

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Really do not like the outside of the ride at all. The water tower looks really bad, but maybe will look better in real life. Did you see off to the right side of the attraction? Looks like a boring switch back for the queue. I really hope they put more time into the queue than that. For some reason, the queue has always been one of my favorite aspects of the ride. The music, the trees, the bird houses. If they rip it out and make it bland and lifeless, I will be pretty crushed.

And yes, I agree with others. I think it's fine if they want to empower Tiana and make her a business woman (good for them), but let's not forget this is a thrill ride first and foremost. If we do not get Dr. Facilier in a prominent role then this is a huge swing and a miss. Splash works cause it is a slow build. The ride builds towards the briar patch. If it is just a celebration or Tiana looking for stuff for her party and then out of nowhere there is a water fall, it will ruin what is hands down one of the best rides on all WDW property.
 

FerretAfros

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HATE the crown on top of the water tower. And if the "scary" elements of this ride are gone in the retheme it'll be a confirmed lost cause.
Even if the scenery and atmosphere is changed to make it less intimidating, at it's core, it's still going to be one of Disney's most intense rides. When DL's version opened, it was the tallest and fastest flume ride in the world. All 3 versions worldwide remain among the fastest rides in their respective resorts, and among a very small handful of Disney's true "thrill" rides.

Barring major structural changes to the facility (which we know they won't do because of budget/effort, and can't do because of the railroad crossing through the mountain), there really isn't much they can do to tone down the physical intensity of the ride. Which makes it an interesting choice for conversion to an IP (Princesses!) whose target demographic may not even be tall enough to ride the revamped attraction, let alone brave enough.

Louisiana has water towers. I don't love it here but it's not like it's completely out of place. I think it's just there as a signpost to say "we're not putting a ton of money into this but want to make it clear that this is not Splash Mountain."
Sure, Louisiana has water towers. A lot of places do. But that doesn't make it a unique or distinctive piece of placesetting.

Heck, it's not even the first place in WDW to use a water tower as an icon. At various times, River Country, Disney-MGM Studios/Disney's Hollywood Studios, Dixie Landings/Port Orleans Riverside, and Disney Springs have all used water towers as their symbols. Even Fort Wilderness and the MK railroad occasionally use water towers in their imagery. There just isn't much about a water tower that is immediately recognizable as being related to Louisiana or Princess and the Frog.

But at least this one has a tacky tiara on top, so we know it's supposed to be whimsical. More timeless! More family!

One element that is distinctive about Louisiana, and bayous in particular, is that they're flat. Among the flattest places on earth. That's sort of the whole point of how slow-moving water works in wetlands, estuaries, and river deltas. And so Disney decided the best way to depict this was with...a mountain?

Even in the unlikely event that the revamped attraction turns out to be great, it's going to be hard to ignore so many fundamental bad decisions made at a high level that led to the creation of this overhaul. While there still remain a lot of unknowns, very little of what we do know inspires confidence that this will turn out well.


I was just playing coy since for some reason people got annoyed when people mentioned salt mines may be part of the ride....After the Research trip video mentioned salt mines.
Disney would never threaten guests with sending them to the salt mines on a ride...

 

Sir_Cliff

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Yes, because agricultural / food processing wasn’t problematic or exploitative in the late 19th/early 20th century - heck, even today!
Yes, this is, I guess, why they have to specify Tiana's business is some kind of co-op. The business itself only seems to exist because the Imagineers became fixated on the idea of a salt mine for the ride and felt they had to reverse engineer some way to get it to fit the backstory, and I guess that was Tiana expanding her business empire and buying it. Thus we also now get that ugly water tower to reinforce the message. I really don't think all of that was necessary.
 

Tha Realest

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Their hand wasn't "pushed by external forces."

If "external forces" were to blame, Peter Pan's Flight would be toast. But Tinkerbell moves merch and Br'er Rabbit doesn't.
Tinker Bell and the entire ride isn’t problematic - the Native American depictions are. Those are already changing, and I expect more to come.
 

larryz

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"Tiana's Foods"?

Might as well theme the ride on the Luzianne Tea plant...
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Bonus: who remembers Burl Ives' extensive collection of Luzianne Tea ads?
 
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