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2013....
(But I am sure my criticism of MK Pirates was still applicable in 2006, unless they only shortened the ride after 2006 and removed the second drop...)
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2013....
(But I am sure my criticism of MK Pirates was still applicable in 2006, unless they only shortened the ride after 2006 and removed the second drop...)
Animaniac93-98
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2013....
The ride length has never changed, but WDW's Pirates as is exists today is very much a case of "death by a thousand cuts".
I could list all the changes that would seem trivial to you and others, but added up their impact is truly felt.
Sir_Cliff
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I do think part of the problem is that the Disneyland version that has had the constant upgrades and maintenance typical of DL, while the MK version has had the upgrades and maintenance typical of WDW.
Animaniac93-98
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It seemed to be better in 2018 vs the previous few years (when show quality was especially bad), but I haven't seen it since last year so I can't comment on its current condition.
aladdin2007
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could be, but I'm thinking another plastic barren princess ride, on par with more like mermaid really. however frozen is a lot more barren than mermaid. while mermaid is more plastic.
I just lament the ripping out of all of those show scenes, you know fine well they will not be replaced, a lot of that space will be altered as such so you don't notice or its closed off etc/rebuilt/downsized. Less scenes means less upkeep costs. This attraction is filled with very grand spaces and intricate nook and cranny scenes, its just a shame it will more than likely be value engineered and pared down to half of what is there now with a lot of screen projection.... These thoughts coming from hunch, rumors, insider comments, and what we have seen from the recent story book report attractions. The title alone is obvious that its another simple barely there story princess ride and a plush pusher attraction. Could they still surprise us and it be incredible? Absolutely. but its really not sounding that way and at this stage I think we would have known by now.
erasure fan1
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It's funny how far Disney has fallen in the creativity department. It used to be you just trusted what they were doing. Now it's prove it to me.
To get pedantic for a moment, Jurassic Park is not a log flume, it is a Shoot the Chutes ride, as is Pirates, 4 across seating for 4-5 row boats + drop=Shoot the Chutes. They typically make bigger splashes and get you more wet. They also lack fast rapid sections that log flumes have as the only time they aren’t traveling in deep water are lifts and drops.
MagicHappens1971
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Disney has barely released a shred of concept art and every single person on here is jumping to conclusions of what this attraction will be. I noticed someone said recently Disney can not afford to screw this up, point blank, they can't. they can not turn around and cut corners and develop a meh replacement. It won't bode well, I hope that this redo is successful and will be worth doing
Tha Realest
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I think this attraction is in an impossible situation. It’s replacing a beloved and well-regarded one, so it will always be compared against the original. It’s restricted to the existing ride itself - I can’t imagine it would be easy or even possible to reconfigure the course of the ride. The existing ride hasn’t even closed and it’s already got a rough opening window. And the IP it’s based on, while a worthy basis for an attraction, didn’t have the level of success of other properties that have recently been mined for attractions.
erasure fan1
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Mr Chapek says "Hold my beer"
JoeCamel
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The old guard is gone
Joel
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They'd be blissfully ignorant about the changes made to the Imagination pavilion too. So what?
Pirates is a significantly worse ride than it used to be.
Kirby86
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Wasn't that because they needed a quick and dirty version because everyone was going "where's pirates?"
LittleBuford
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Journey Into Imagination is now a poor ride, as demonstrated by the fact that it's basically a walk-on. Pirates remains a headliner for a reason, notwithstanding the claims often made here that it's gone to pot.
UNCgolf
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Long story short, in another thread where the majority of the conversation is now deleted, some folks were upset/triggered/annoyed/shocked when I said that Los Angeles and Orlando are incomparable cities. Folks used that to call back to the notion that Californians think they’re better, and I got called an “elitist,” despite the fact that I said nothing bad about Orlando or any of the 49 other states. So, I changed my name to the thing folks in that thread saw me as and wanted me to be.
It’s personally funny to me, but I will probably change my name back at some point.
It's hilarious that anyone would think Orlando and Los Angeles are comparable. Orlando's comparable to places like Indianapolis and Cincinnati, not Los Angeles and New York.
And that's not intended as a slight to Orlando; it's just the truth.
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Midwest Elitist
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When I went to LA I felt it was like a "Chicago on the Sea". Aside form the awful spread and transit, it felt similar to me.
Californian Elitist
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THANK YOU.
tanc
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Will we actually get a closing date and new concept art? Hard to believe we are 2 years out on a project and are left with just a name and 1 or 2 pages of concept art. The video told us about the salt mines but WDW pro's post about how this project is going is something I am wondering about. Not that they are a completely correct in the past, but back in 2020 a lot of the "speculation/leaks" were correct to a degree.
Not really.
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