Yup. That's why they're Probably doing California first. Easier to blend it into New Orleans Square
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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure
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Disney Glimpses
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Since the WDW version is almost universally accepted as better than DLR's, I still wonder possibility that they do Disneyland's first in a couple years and then WDW's some time from now (or never?)
Kate F
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I would hope they’d at least take it one step at a time and not do both at once.
Interestingly enough, even the MK attraction page has the attraction blurb stating that Splash Mountain is a "hare-raising" adventure along a Southern bayou. Southern Bayou you say? And with that; I'd be shocked if "Bayou" isn't include in the rename of the attraction.
Princess Tina's Splash Mountain: Bayou Soirée
(apostrophe and accent marks will be little fireflies)
Princess Tina's Splash Mountain: Bayou Soirée
(apostrophe and accent marks will be little fireflies)
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jt04
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No way both mountains don't get reimagined as they absolutely should. But they may get different IPs. Hope so. But the MK still should get New Orleans square or street and a PatF presence.
Disney Maddux
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I can see Disneyland's closing later this year or early next year, followed by WDW's six months to a year afterward.
GoofGoof
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I don’t see them doing different IPs. The rides are not identical so there could be some variation in show scenes but the IP and overall theme will likely be the same. I don’t disagree on the New Orleans Square area for MK to help the ride fit in, but it doesn’t sound like there’s much of a budget for something like that.
jt04
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Most likely. Still holding out hope for PatF/New Orleans Square and a Critter Country land at the MK.
(Moving the train station would create enough space)
GoofGoof
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I agree. Even when half the Splash AAs were broken in the dark era before the big refurb it was still a great ride. Realistically they could actually just close the ride and not re-open it for a while but I don’t think that happens. I hope not. I do think they can come up with a quality story and actually make this a pretty good ride...great if they have the budget. There’s a lot of possibilities.
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Perhaps in seeing it's success in Disneyland, WDI could pitch TDO the "needed" proposal to develop a New Orleans Square area.
GoofGoof
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They can’t really move the train station. What they could do is utilize the existing queue, gift shop, restrooms and the small play area under the train tracks and outdoor meet and greet area back on the other side of the tracks. Plenty of room to do something and the transition under the tracks would be pretty good, not intrusive to Frontierland. If they follow a similar pattern to FLE they might build a permanent meet and greet area for a few of the characters. Woody has his own land and restaurant now at DHS so the place is vacant anyway
You guys are all going to have egg on your face when Disney announces that the plans to overhaul the Magic Kingdom's Splash Mountain to the Princess and the Frog IP will be canceled in favor or converting Swiss Family Tree House and Jungle Cruise to "Mama Odie's Tree House" and "Princess and the Frog's Bayou Cruise" respectively. Even Ray the lovable lightening bug is back to headline "Ray's Firefly Jamboree" a replacement for the Aladdin Spinner.
As for Splash Mountain, rumor has it this Frontierland overhaul will eventually receive an all new storyline and treatment based on a mysterious Society of Explorers and Adventurers character; lifelong friend turned rival to Big Thunder's Barnabas T. Bullion.
More on this story as it develops. /s
As for Splash Mountain, rumor has it this Frontierland overhaul will eventually receive an all new storyline and treatment based on a mysterious Society of Explorers and Adventurers character; lifelong friend turned rival to Big Thunder's Barnabas T. Bullion.
More on this story as it develops. /s
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UNCgolf
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At Disney, I'd say theme usually matters more than the ride itself. Horizons was one of my favorite rides ever, but if it still existed and was the exact same "ride" but was now themed to some IP, it may as well have been demolished and replaced with something entirely new. The fact that the ride vehicle takes the exact same path would be mostly irrelevant.
There are a few exceptions for some outright thrill rides (I think Rock 'n Roller Coaster could be rethemed and the majority of fans wouldn't care), but I don't think Splash falls into that category. It's not a simple up and down; the vast majority of the ride is built around the theme and the show scenes.
How many log flumes have you ridden? Most don’t have 2 drops let alone 4 major ones (1 minor) or in DLs case 3 major ones and 3 minor ones. Ive ridden a lot of them, it’s one of my favorite ride types, trust me, that flume course is the best in the United States.
UNCgolf
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I didn't say it wasn't?
My point is that there are likely as many and maybe more people who care about the theme as care about the ride system itself. Otherwise there'd be no reason for Disney to even spend money on a theme and they could also eliminate about half of the time between the drops -- it wouldn't need to be a 10 minute long ride. Of course those people care about the ride itself as well; it's the combination of the theming and the ride system that makes it such a great ride.
I meant to specify in the original post that Splash is in a middle area where both the ride system and the theming are important as opposed to something like Horizons. It's similar to the Jurassic Park ride at Universal (which is my favorite ride there), where the drop is fun and a big part of the ride, but the dinosaur theming is even more important. That's not to say that Splash has to be themed to Song of the South to work -- with the right design (and budget) they can make Princess and the Frog work just as well. I'm saying that Splash wouldn't automatically be a great ride to a significant number of Disney guests if it was the ride system and nothing else. They go hand in hand.
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Did I miss something.....
The sarcasm tag perhaps? ( /s )
Jedijax719
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Which, to me, is all the more reason to change the theme (if true). The current theme has no relevance to anything that many can relate to.
UNCgolf
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Sure, I have no problem with changing the theme as long as they do it justice -- which is what worries me. I'm not optimistic that they will give it the budget it needs to make something comparable to what currently exists.
Regardless, there are tons of people who love the current theme because it's so well done.
disneygeek90
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I want to think that they know how legendary SM is and know it needs a worthy replacement. Since we don't know much at this point I'm gonna refrain from getting worried... for now.
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