News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[jt04]

They could do a follow up show like Tangled. That was a decent show.

Yes, larger budgeted limited series both animated and live action can be produced forever. Disney has more than enough IPs to keep bringing the franchises back again and again with new stories. Like they are doing with Star Wars.

 

[Bocabear]

Actually beginning at the archway from Adventureland they could re-theme the architecture of Tortuga Tavern and Tall Tale to look like New Orleans. Turn the Outpost into a Beignet stand a-la-French Market. and create a little miniland corridor leading up to Splash It would look fresh and fun... The structures behind Splash are already sort of rural southern country and can remain as they are...add a few more touches of Bayou theming...It's kind of an easy transition...

 

[tirian]

Actually beginning at the archway from Adventureland they could re-theme the architecture of Tortuga Tavern and Tall Tale to look like New Orleans. Turn the Outpost into a Beignet stand a-la-French Market. and create a little miniland corridor leading up to Splash It would look fresh and fun... The structures behind Splash are already sort of rural southern country and can remain as they are...add a few more touches of Bayou theming...It's kind of an easy transition...

It would be similar to Tokyo’s odd combination of Adventureland/NOS architecture for Pirates/Westernland.

That transition is derided as an example of how TDL is a cut-and-paste park, but I’m not criticizing you; this theming issue is going to be Disney’s own fault.

 

[MisterPenguin]

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[choco choco]

With regards to when the ride's story takes place, I really wish we could get away from the idea that the plots of theme park attractions need to very carefully constructed so as not to conflict with the canon or timeline of the IP. The bending over backwards does not contribute positively to the final product.

All the villains are dead, but we have M&G's for them. Rapunzel has a pixie cut, but her face character has the long braid. Beast is still a beast and the castle is still spooky. I could go on. People are going to ride PatF to see their favorite characters and get drenched in bromine. Maybe the canon-worship was good for GE because of the large adult fanbase who cares very much about that sort of thing (it wasn't, IMO).

Arguments of, "doesn't fit the story," negates what should actually be driving the design of a land - how it makes the guest feel - and instead elevates the drive for "plot logic," a weird thing to emphasize because there's no need for plot logic in themed experiences. To use the example at hand, Splash Mountain has no narrative whatsoever and doesn't need one. Its popularity and longevity is due to its designers specifically making sure every artistic decision is made with the intent of spurring wonder and delight, and that's all there is to it. Nearly every classic e-ticket you can name shares the same goal. Emphasis on a narrative "story" only serves to drive away from that goal and its prevalence in recent years has basically made the industry worse.

 

[choco choco]

The waterfall is explained in the Splash Mt backstory.(maybe a backstory for the house will happen, but in recent times Disney does not show the track record)
To your point about the hill, when you are the side of the characters in scale, is a mountain. Many mountains are called foothills btw. But it does not matter, Mt becomes iconic in scale, hence Space and Thunder's canyons too.
That being said, it def has more thought put into it than the bayou treehouse now five stories in the air.

The "tree on a hill" thing seems like the weirdest thing to criticize. For one, it is the most eminent way of changing the attraction's "weenie," a must given that the core parameter here is "keep the mountain intact." There's no other thing you can pull from the movie that would fit there. You certainly wouldn't pull a building from New Orleans and plop it on. It's actually a clever solution given the limitation.

 

[choco choco]

The interior showscenes I'm not worried about. Anything is possible with interior scenes. And there's no need for a narrative story and who cares anyway. I'm more interested in how they deal with the exterior walls of the attraction that are supposed to emulate a burrowed rabbit's warren. This is the predominant texture and setting for the first third of the attraction, going up the mountain. Dunno how they're gonna solve that. Do they darken the walls and put lots of green patches to emulate that fungus, petrified tree look from the swamps? Do they leave it as is on the basis of it being pretty enough and that's as good a solution as any?

 

[MisterPenguin]

I don’t see this attraction being a direct continuation from the film. I see the attraction being directly based off of the film. Seriously, can anybody picture this attraction without Ray the Firefly and Dr. Facilier?

Its possible for Facilier to be resurrected but Ray the Firefly passed on to becoming a star!

As Dr. Facilier would point out, things can 'cross on over.' And if a shade of the bad doctor can cross over... why not a beam of light from the other other side?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Wow. Looks like Disney transferred the Tree of Life from DAK to Frontierland. Even more of a reason why it doesn’t fit the land either!

You're right. It's crazy that anyone would ever come across two large trees in their lifetime!

Next thing you know, there will be other oddities, such as *mountains* everywhere!! Even in Animal Kingdom!!!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Any word on a sequel to Princess and the Frog? Maybe a Disney+ project? Seems like a great opportunity for $ynergy.

I've looked and no hits on remakes, sequels, or series.

For now.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

Actually beginning at the archway from Adventureland they could re-theme the architecture of Tortuga Tavern and Tall Tale to look like New Orleans. Turn the Outpost into a Beignet stand a-la-French Market. and create a little miniland corridor leading up to Splash It would look fresh and fun... The structures behind Splash are already sort of rural southern country and can remain as they are...add a few more touches of Bayou theming...It's kind of an easy transition...

Until you make the turn. Although I actually really like the idea of rethemeing the area leading up to Splash. It's that little bit after that's the problem. Needs to be "something" to either de-westernize Big Thunder or create a better transition leading to Big Thunder, IMO.

 

[Myth Maker]

One of the biggest traffic issues in this part of Magic Kingdom has to do with the two dead-ends. One at the end of Frontierland and the other and the end of Liberty Sq.

This could easily be solved by building a foot bridge over to Tom Sawyer Island. Tons of great cost savings with this idea, as they would no longer need to run boats over to Tom Sawyer island (or run the Liberty Bell). They would free up tons of traffic flow. As well as allow expansion to Frontierland on the upper island.

This idea would allow them to re-theme Splash Mountain to New Orleans Square along with Pecos BIll area, and then keep the entrance to Frontierland starting up with Big Thunder Mountain. Could park the Liberty Bell near SM as part of that theming as well.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

One of the biggest traffic issues in this part of Magic Kingdom has to do with the two dead-ends. One at the end of Frontierland and the other and the end of Liberty Sq.

This could easily be solved by building a foot bridge over to Tom Sawyer Island. Tons of great cost savings with this idea, as they would no longer need to run boats over to Tom Sawyer island (or run the Liberty Bell). They would free up tons of traffic flow. As well as allow expansion to Frontierland on the upper island.

This idea would allow them to re-theme Splash Mountain to New Orleans Square along with Pecos BIll area, and then keep the entrance to Frontierland starting up with Big Thunder Mountain. Could park the Liberty Bell near SM as part of that theming as well.

A swampified covered bridge at the transition point and then another "Sleepy Hollow" covered bridge near Liberty.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Until you make the turn. Although I actually really like the idea of rethemeing the area leading up to Splash. It's that little bit after that the problem. Needs to be "something" to either de-westernize Big Thunder or create a better transition leading to Big Thunder, IMO.

BTMR was already sitting next to a Deep South and Mississippi River attraction. Something tells me that Disney ain't concerned about something like that.

It's like getting used to the countries of World Showcase sitting next to each other. Or accepting a dwarven mine right outside Beast's castle.

 

[WDW Pro]

The "tree on a hill" thing seems like the weirdest thing to criticize. For one, it is the most eminent way of changing the attraction's "weenie," a must given that the core parameter here is "keep the mountain intact." There's no other thing you can pull from the movie that would fit there. You certainly wouldn't pull a building from New Orleans and plop it on. It's actually a clever solution given the limitation.

If sticking a tree on top of a structure is literally the only thing possible to tie it into its new IP, then you may have accidentally identified why the structure isn't a good fit for the IP.

 

[jt04]

BTMR was already sitting next to a Deep South and Mississippi River attraction. Something tells me that Disney ain't concerned about something like that.

It's like getting used to the countries of World Showcase sitting next to each other. Or accepting a dwarven mine right outside Beast's castle.

The MK needs to have the transitional areas in keeping with what made the parks great. For the most part they have. And it is okay to have a transition from, for instance, a European castle courtyard right next to a far flung exotic location half way around the world if that transition portal is done well. IMO.

 

[champdisney]

You're right. It's crazy that anyone would ever come across two large trees in their lifetime!

Next thing you know, there will be other oddities, such as *mountains* everywhere!! Even in Animal Kingdom!!!

It’s an eyesore of an oddity.

As Dr. Facilier would point out, things can 'cross on over.' And if a shade of the bad doctor can cross over... why not a beam of light from the other other side?

Yes.

 

[choco choco]

If sticking a tree on top of a structure is literally the only thing possible to tie it into its new IP, then you may have accidentally identified why the structure isn't a good fit for the IP.

So who do the Imagineers nominate to be the one to go tell Bob Chapek that?

 

[Tinkwings]

Until you make the turn. Although I actually really like the idea of rethemeing the area leading up to Splash. It's that little bit after that the problem. Needs to be "something" to either de-westernize Big Thunder or create a better transition leading to Big Thunder, IMO.

Noooooooo do not touch Pecos or BTM!!!! I say leave the exterior of SM looking as is and change the interior and perhaps queue that is not as visible from main walkway..... am distressed enough they are taking away one of my favorite well themed rides.... I for one want a Frontierland....not a hybrid New Orleans/ Western thingy....

 

[Disney Glimpses]

Noooooooo do not touch Pecos or BTM!!!! I say leave the exterior of SM looking as is and change the interior and perhaps queue that is not as visible from main walkway..... am distressed enough they are taking away one of my favorite well themed rides.... I for one want a Frontierland....not a hybrid New Orleans/ Western thingy....

We better hope they don't change the queue or exterior too much. The budget is going to be thin and that is a lot of ground to cover.