News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[GimpYancIent]

The Shanghai POTC is mind-blowing in person... The show scenes are massive...The overall attraction is quite impressive. Don't let the videos fool you...It is a real hit!

If its SD = so what as in don't care.

 

[Roger_the_pianist]

I wish I could go back in a time machine and tell Tony Baxter to just...stop. It could have been just "America Sings! The Log Flume"

 

[RSoxNo1]

Add New Orleans Square as a land from the Adventureland corridor (parade start/finish) up to Splash. They can worry about theming continuity from the rest of Frontierland to BTMRR later, when Tom Sawyer’s Island is inevitably rethemed.

My suggestion was to eliminate Liberty Square as a theme and take the stretch from Mansion to Princess and the Frog a new area called "Riverfront Square" and lean into the Rivers of America / the Mississippi River.

 

[erasure fan1]

My suggestion was to eliminate Liberty Square as a theme and take the stretch from Mansion to Princess and the Frog a new area called "Riverfront Square" and lean into the Rivers of America / the Mississippi River.

While that makes sense. My money is on them slapping this new ride in, and doing nothing to rework the surrounding area to fit a theme. This would be a time I would gladly eat crow. I just have zero confidence they actually try.

 

[Splashin' Ryan]

My suggestion was to eliminate Liberty Square as a theme and take the stretch from Mansion to Princess and the Frog a new area called "Riverfront Square" and lean into the Rivers of America / the Mississippi River.

While I like that idea, I think many people forget that Big Thunder is its own dead end so whatever themed area Splash currently sits in would have to be stretched down there too, and retheming Big Thunder to anything else other than what it is wouldn't work because the attraction doesn't revolve around any IP or characters, its theme is the theme of the land it's in, Frontierland.

 

[RSoxNo1]

While that makes sense. My money is on them slapping this new ride in, and doing nothing to rework the surrounding area to fit a theme. This would be a time I would gladly eat crow. I just have zero confidence they actually try.

Part of my proposal was also to lean into a few different food concepts along the way including something... anything... that gets me the Cafe Orleans monte christo in the Magic Kingdom.

 

[RSoxNo1]

While I like that idea, I think many people forget that Big Thunder is its own dead end so whatever themed area Splash currently sits in would have to be stretched down there too, and retheming Big Thunder to anything else other than what it is wouldn't work because the attraction doesn't revolve around any IP or characters, its theme is the theme of the land it's in, Frontierland.

So we did a hypothetical build out to 2035 on our show. My proposal also included connecting Haunted Mansion to Tom Sawyer Island to Thunder via bridges, permanently docking the Riverboat and use it for live entertainment near Splash and using part of Tom Sawyer for a new major Frontierland attraction (my suggestion was a Western River Expedition variant).

Tom Sawyer Island is the most inefficient use of space in the Magic Kingdom. I know there are absolutely fans of it, but if you're going to strip any sign of Song of the South from the parks, Tom Sawyer / Huckleberry Finn certainly are "problematic" in today's society. Disney is in the mindset that their attractions shouldn't have to be put in context and I have to believe Tom Sawyer Island is certainly on the list of future targets.

 

[owlsandcoffee]

I wish I could go back in a time machine and tell Tony Baxter to just...stop. It could have been just "America Sings! The Log Flume"

It still could be! In WDW anyways.

 

[SailorMercury]

While that makes sense. My money is on them slapping this new ride in, and doing nothing to rework the surrounding area to fit a theme. This would be a time I would gladly eat crow. I just have zero confidence they actually try.

If it does happen, which from the looks of the new statement it ain’t, they’ll make a southern bluegrass version of the soundtrack and call it a day

 

[Kirby86]

So we did a hypothetical build out to 2035 on our show. My proposal also included connecting Haunted Mansion to Tom Sawyer Island to Thunder via bridges, permanently docking the Riverboat and use it for live entertainment near Splash and using part of Tom Sawyer for a new major Frontierland attraction (my suggestion was a Western River Expedition variant).

Tom Sawyer Island is the most inefficient use of space in the Magic Kingdom. I know there are absolutely fans of it, but if you're going to strip any sign of Song of the South from the parks, Tom Sawyer / Huckleberry Finn certainly are "problematic" in today's society. Disney is in the mindset that their attractions shouldn't have to be put in context and I have to believe Tom Sawyer Island is certainly on the list of future targets.

I think if it was called Huckleberry Finn Island there would be more calls for a change. The Adventures of Tom Sawyer isn't as controversial as it's sequel.

 

[Mr. Moderate]

Whether or not YOU approve is irrelevant - both to Disney and to the conversation of whether or not the ride actually is problematic.

(It is problematic.)

In the grand scheme of things, no it’s not. It’s only problematic to those who want it to be, who thrive on drama, wokeness, and division. Scouting out and/or inventing problems so they can feel good about themselves and absolve any guilt they may feel about past sins from our nation’s history.

For the record, not once does Uncle Remus or any human for that matter, is portrayed in the story of the ride. If you have a problem with the song then change it, there’s no reason to gut this ride and completely redo it in the name of wokeness. Give the IP, Princess and the frog, their own dedicated ride, not some rehashed makeover on one of the most beloved rides in Disney park history. Both deserve better than that.

This ride is harmless and most people don’t even see or think about other races and people of color, when riding this ride, I never have.

 

[owlsandcoffee]

Guys I really don't think Tom Sawyer is problematic, and I'm politically somewhere in the vicinity of the people who want SotS evicted.

The current statement does translate from corpo-speak to English as "We aren't doing it, like at all" which is fascinating.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Guys I really don't think Tom Sawyer is problematic, and I'm politically somewhere in the vicinity of the people who want SotS evicted.

The current statement does translate from corpo-speak to English as "We aren't doing it, like at all" which is fascinating.

I'm all about people being smart enough to put things in context, but Disney has decided they don't want guests at their parks to have to do that. There were calls for Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn to be banned long before Disney recognized Song of the South as being offensive. Regardless of your personal opinions on the matter, you have to recognize that it would be a target for Disney's sensitivity / inclusiveness team.

 

[Ghost93]

I'm all about people being smart enough to put things in context, but Disney has decided they don't want guests at their parks to have to do that. There were calls for Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn to be banned long before Disney recognized Song of the South as being offensive. Regardless of your personal opinions on the matter, you have to recognize that it would be a target for Disney's sensitivity / inclusiveness team.

Honestly, I think Frontierland as a whole might be eyed for a retheme, as Disney may see it as representing the Native American genocide that happened when settlers moved out west. If Splash Mountain is being rethemed, Disney may want to retheme the area around it in Magic Kingdom so that it doesn't feel out of place.

 

[brb1006]

I wish I could go back in a time machine and tell Tony Baxter to just...stop. It could have been just "America Sings! The Log Flume"

Blame Eisner's son for that decision.

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

Apparently Tony Baxter's son motivated him on the project.

I think you mean Michael Eisner’s son, Breck. He’d thought the idea of it sounded cool. Thus it getting greenlit

 

[happybear025]

I just want to know if it’ll feature an AA heavy cast, or mainly screens and projection mapping.

I'm a bit wary considering they are having the same person who Project Managed Mickey's Runaway Railway ---- if they add screens to Splash Mountain that will be such a downgrade!!

 

[Brooklin Disney Dad]

I imagine this ride to be like Frozen Ever After. No changes really to the ride itself, just what you see and hear.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

I imagine this ride to be like Frozen Ever After. No changes really to the ride itself, just what you see and hear.

But other than that, no changes.

 

[Ghost93]

But other than that, no changes.

Lol. While I support the Splash Mountain retheme (even though I like the attraction as is), I find it hilarious when people say "they aren't changing the ride, just the theme!" Like, at Disney the theme is a gigantic part of the appeal!