Splash Mountain re-theme announced

[Brer Oswald]

Better purchase the WDW CD or Disney Classics sets now because that song is going the way of tHe Do Do.

I’ve pirated it several times. The beauty of this is that Splash made it to the digital age. They can try as hard as they like to erase its existence, but they never will.

 

[thomas998]

I’m cool. I just know today’s environment. Disney has to go out of their way to proclaim the minority Imagineer involvement. And it better be 51% or better. Period.

Maybe that's why Disney replaced as many American IT personnel with people from India... Oh, no.. that was just to save money any diversity was just an unexpected bonus.

 

[jt04]

I’m cool. I just know today’s environment. Disney has to go out of their way to proclaim the minority Imagineer involvement. And it better be 51% or better. Period.

The success of MMRR might also be a factor. Just sayin. If this is at that level plus it will be very popular and successful.

 

[patrok65]

So what type of budget are we looking at for this? Are they going to be cheap. I can’t see wdw management wanting Splash down for long.

 

[haveyoumetmark]

The success of MMRR might also be a factor. Just sayin. If this is at that level plus it will be very popular and successful.

Right? How ignorant to completely erase all of that imagineer’s success and talent to suggest that tokenism is taking place

 

[MythBuster]

It's an excellent podcast about old hollywood and an even more thorough insight on the troupes and roots of the traditions upon which song of the south was built and epitomizes. Really encourage people to listen, its eye opening.

Brer Rabbit, trickster figure originating in African folklore and transmitted by African slaves to the New World, where it acquired attributes of similar native American tricksters (see trickster tale); Brer, or Brother, Rabbit was popularized in the United States in the stories of Joel Chandler Harris (1848–1908). The character’s adventures embody an idea considered to be a universal creation among oppressed peoples—that a small, weak, but ingenious force can overcome a larger, stronger, but dull-witted power. Brer Rabbit continually outsmarts his bigger animal associates, Brer Fox, Brer Wolf, and Brer Bear.

Brer Rabbit | African-American, Trickster, Tales | Britannica

Brer Rabbit, trickster figure originating in African folklore and transmitted by African slaves to the New World, where it acquired attributes of similar native American tricksters (see trickster tale); Brer, or Brother, Rabbit was popularized in the United States in the stories of Joel Chandler

www.britannica.com

 

[Bairstow]

Right? How ignorant to completely erase all of that imagineer’s success and talent to suggest that tokenism is taking place

It's not "tokenism" if they're making her lead on the project.
I think it's fairly apparent that Carter's race does have something to do with her selection, either on principle or for PR reasons.
... and that she's fully qualified for this job.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

Those aren't nearly as problematic as Song of the South. People for years have been talking about the controversy behind the ride/film. It is nothing new. The worldwide movement only helped push that through The Walt Disney Company. The company has made great efforts to keep Song of the South locked away.

Do not get me wrong, I LOVE Splash Mountain. However I am not surprised by this move. I hope they change it well and give Princess and the Frog the attraction it deserves.

Um, women have also been complaining about the Disney Princesses, very loudly since before the founding of Ms. Magazine. I'm pretty sure that concern predates Disney and goes all the way back to suffragettes and the 1848 Seneca Falls Convention. Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton wanted to have their own political identity, not tied to men (= marriage).

This too is nothing new.

 

[RCID]

Exactly, the princesses are problematic too. To stand here and cast stones at anyone who is not on board with this change....and then magically act like Song of the South and Splash Mountain are the only problems Disney has is pretty ignorant frankly.

 

[brb1006]

In light of the news of Splash Mountain getting re-themed to Princess and the Frog. This person from Twitter made an interesting post on modern Disney Ride design from then and now.

 

[noodles]

In light of the news of Splash Mountain getting re-themed to Princess and the Frog. This person from Twitter made an interesting post on modern Disney Ride design from then and now.

Art vs cheap junk.

 

[Kate F]

Own it and love it and I'm offended.View attachment 479473

Neat cover art, never seen it before

 

[disneygeek90]

In light of the news of Splash Mountain getting re-themed to Princess and the Frog. This person from Twitter made an interesting post on modern Disney Ride design from then and now.

Rise of the resistance? The dang ceiling is themed. Next.

 

[No Name]

So now quoting Uncle Remus is offensive? I assume you expect Zip a Dee Doo Dah to be banned from the parks from here on out, then?

This is just sad, man.

You say this as if it’s unfathomable. It’s pretty obvious that the song won’t be heard in the parks once the ride is gone.

In light of the news of Splash Mountain getting re-themed to Princess and the Frog. This person from Twitter made an interesting post on modern Disney Ride design from then and now.

Most older rides don’t have the active, linear storytelling of most newer rides. The whole design is very different, and riders’ focus is directed more explicitly. I think that’s what they are conflating here as lack of detail.

 

[orlandogal22]

Rise of the resistance? The dang ceiling is themed. Next.

Interestingly, in Journey of the Little Mermaid, they forgot about the ceiling during the "Under the Sea" song portion of the ride. You look up at all the fun dancing, singing fish and other sea creatures and see the ugly black ceiling with support beams, lights, wires, etc. I often wonder why they didn't do something better to hide that kind of stuff to create a more seamless illusion.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

You say this as if it’s unfathomable. It’s pretty obvious that the song won’t be heard in the parks once the ride is gone.

If it's bad to reference SotS in any capacity, even in a censored form or re-contextualized, than the walk-arounds and songs have to go to...

Can't have anything "offensive"

 

[Animaniac93-98]

The moral of Song of the South is "You can't run away from your problems. There 'aint no place that far."

It's a lesson Disney has yet to learn.

 

[manmythlegend]

The success of MMRR might also be a factor. Just sayin. If this is at that level plus it will be very popular and successful.

That's a big if. The imagineers have been failing more often that they've been succeeding the past decade or so.

 

[peter11435]

That's a big if. The imagineers have been failing more often that they've been succeeding the past decade or so.

Not sure I would agree with that statement

 

[brb1006]

From the Disneyland thread on the re-theme.

Somewhat-related note, I've read that when Splash Mountain was in development, Disney consulted black rights groups over which things from the film should and shouldn't be included. I don't remember the exact details, but I distinctively remember seeing that.

And as a result of Disney being sensitive to the issues from the film in the late '80s, no one has ever been offended by Splash mountain and most were completely unaware of its Song of the South roots.