Kman101
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lol Martin. You got told. Apparently Splash is only popular because it's a water ride. LMAO. LMAO. LMAO.
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Splash Mountain re-theme announced
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lol Martin. You got told. Apparently Splash is only popular because it's a water ride. LMAO. LMAO. LMAO.
PrincessNelly_NJ
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How do you know this? The track will likely stay the same with the set pieces changing.
SpoiledBlueMilk
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Yep - that's my concern. Just remove all of the animatronics and theming to replace it with two new "cutting edge" animatronics and a whole lot of screens to replace the in-ride atmosphere.
lebeau
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They knew there were problems. They made a conscious decision to omit Uncle Remus from the ride for that specific reason. They thought at the time that would be sufficient.
So your concern is with Disney's lack of thoughtful planning? The fact that you perceive this as hasty outweighs any potential benefits of inclusion in your mind? You're willing to dismiss other people's concerns out of hand because.... Yeti?
PrincessNelly_NJ
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ToT was popular too, that didn't exempt it from being re-themed.
^Um no, Dr Faclier is not part of that trope, that trope is about a poor black man appearing out of no where and helping the white protagonist out of the goodness of his heart and then disappearing from the film. Watch Legend of Bagger Vance for the perfect example.
Dr Facilier is the antagonist of the film and is clearly out to serve only himself. He actually is a dark reflection on Tiannas singular mindset in the early film, until she learns to lean on her family and take time to smell the roses.
Dr Facilier is the antagonist of the film and is clearly out to serve only himself. He actually is a dark reflection on Tiannas singular mindset in the early film, until she learns to lean on her family and take time to smell the roses.
PeoplemoverTTA
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Dole whips are vegan.
And it’s very classy to tie racist elements that harken back to one of the darkest times in our history with an inappropriate joke. Congrats.
Nothing from insiders but we can assume they'll be projections and a downgrade of physical sets and AAs.
I'd look at who's spearheading the refresh. That would clue us in as to what to expect. Opinions being what they are; I'm expecting something like Navi River Journey but with a giant showboat at the end and obligatory fireworks in the distance! Screens for areas where they can't afford AAs and the removal of 2/3rd of the AAs because they don't align with the art style of P&F. 50 million (if number is accurate) doesn't go very far these days.
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RoysCabin
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I'm pretty sure this was brought up earlier, but while those particular scenes in those movies get called out plenty, the core of the narratives of the entire films aren't build around them. If you ask someone to provide a basic plot synopsis and setting of Dumbo or Peter Pan, the crow and tribe scenes likely don't even enter the equation, whereas a synopsis of Song of the South has a much harder time avoiding the historical setting it is presented in and the choice made to show a positive depiction of it.
Again, I think the vast majority of us don't want any of these films done away with, just presented with greater context, but while some might not find it fair I think in the eyes of the general public it's more a matter of degree: one can choose to watch Dumbo or Peter Pan and simply skip the scene they find unsavory in each, while doing so for Song of the South is much more difficult.
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PrincessNelly_NJ
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Yes. I felt exactly the same when they replaced the stunt show & Backlot tour with Galaxys Edge & Toy Story Land... our beloved history gone
Kman101
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I'm not saying it should stop or shouldn't happen. Don't make my post about something it wasn't about.
Splash wasn't popular just because it was a water ride but whatever makes all of you feel better. Some of us know guest feedback, do you? I'm not saying either way that it should or shouldn't be re-themed.
I'm beyond thrilled Tiana is getting an attraction.
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Ellen Ripley
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Here is a 6 part podcast series about the problems with the story. It is extremely well researched.
Disney’s Most Controversial Film (Six Degrees of Song of the South, Episode 1) — You Must Remember This
Listen to this episode on Apple Podcasts . Disney Plus is launching with the stated intention of streaming the entire Disney library...except for Song of the South , the 1946 animation/live-action hybrid film set on a post-Civil War plantation, which was theatrically re-released as recently as 19www.youmustrememberthispodcast.com
Also, Here is the Splash Mountain specific episode. I encourage you all to listen.
Splash Mountain (Six Degrees of Song of the South, Episode 6) — You Must Remember This
Listen to this episode on Apple Podcasts . After two more successful theatrical releases, in 1980 and 1986, Disney decided to put Song of the South in the “Disney Vault,” and never released it on home video or theatrically in the US ever again. And yet, at the same time, the company was develo
www.youmustrememberthispodcast.com
disneygeek90
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GE is based on the sequel trilogy. The better comparison would be Pandora. I know there's more planned but at this point...
Sounds like Ray with his stereotypical cajun voice or Mama Odie to me.
WDW Pro
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Yes. I felt exactly the same when they replaced the Backlot tour with Galaxys Edge & Toy Story Land... our beloved history gone
For the most part both of those lands fall far short of Disney's typical quality.
Mike S
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The ride has dark humor concerning death and suicide. Someone who experienced the death of a loved one because they hung themselves might be triggered from it.
_caleb
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I actually think the SeaWorld example is a good one. The Blackfish film changed public perception of the park is a major way. Disney wants to avoid something like this happening to them.
I think it’s because, in a sense, a film *was produced at a point in time, but a theme park attraction is seen as *still being produced while it’s still open to guests.
PrincessNelly_NJ
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someone should tell Disney this...
Main Construction Kicks Off for 'Zootopia'-Themed Expansion at Shanghai Disney Resort
Earlier this year, we announced a new “Zootopia”-themed land coming to Shanghai Disney Resort. Now we’re thrilled to share that main construction has officially begun for the second biggest addition to the park! The eighth themed land will be
disneyparks.disney.go.com
Thanks but no thanks.Also, Here is the Splash Mountain specific episode. I encourage you all to listen.
Splash Mountain (Six Degrees of Song of the South, Episode 6) — You Must Remember This
Listen to this episode on Apple Podcasts . After two more successful theatrical releases, in 1980 and 1986, Disney decided to put Song of the South in the “Disney Vault,” and never released it on home video or theatrically in the US ever again. And yet, at the same time, the company was develo
Ray is a alligator and is repaid for him helping the protagonist at the end of the story by playing in her nightclub and having his dream come true so no.
Mama Odie comes closer but seeing as Tiana is black invalidates the trope, she is another trope the “old sage” like Obi Won in a New Hope.
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