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Splash Mountain re-theme announced
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dig311dug
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An attraction is much more than just the mechanics/track.
See: Space Mountain with the lights on.
Brer Panther
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If they replace the Million Dollar Bunny with a projection of Brer Rabbit hopping but keep the rest of the ride as is... honestly, I'd gladly take that over the retheme.
Phil12
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Space Mountain with the lights on! Often theme gets in the way of a great ride. The current Splash Mountain theme is a great example. They obviously didn't put enough thought into that idea.
dig311dug
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Not enough thought into what idea?I
Splash is work of art.
Ginzuishou
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The Princess and the Frog, opening Summer of 2025. 
I dont know.. just kidding,,,kind of, seems like all we do is wait for the new stuff hehe
I dont know.. just kidding,,,kind of, seems like all we do is wait for the new stuff hehe
Phil12
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You see, Br'er Rabbit is not a swamp rabbit. Therefore it's not natural for Br'er Rabbit to be swimming in a swamp. Yet our log on Splash Mountain plummets down a 55 foot drop into a water filled briar patch! Frogs on the other hand love and thrive in swamps.
And after all, these stories are based upon an African hare, not an American rabbit. But in any case the same can be said for both animals concerning swimming. They can swim, but as little as possible. Why? Because they don't enjoy swimming.
Therefore putting a rabbit in a swampy briar patch was not well thought out. A frog is going to be much better suited to a water ride than a rabbit for obvious reasons. Why would we want to continue to misinform our children to expect rabbits to like to swim in swamps? But it just goes to demonstrate the extraordinary lengths the Disney story tellers will go to try and make an attraction work. It was all done back in the day to help promote the movie "Splash".
Now we can have an attraction that makes more sense!
Or, they might want to consider a science fiction re-theme of the attraction and call it Space Splash:
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Phil12
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To set upon me by calling me a troll does nothing to support your position. The current attraction is going to be changed because it is deeply flawed and it needs to be re-themed. That is an indisputable fact.
This is a discussion forum and you have every opportunity to disagree or criticize my suggestions for change. But since you have decided to attack my character rather than attack the opinions and thoughts in my answer, you are by definition the troll in this case.
You asked for my opinion as to why not enough thought was put into the original Splash Mountain and I clearly explained the problems. And I purposely avoided the racist problems with the ride since that has long ago also been factually established.
I understand that some uber fans have a difficult time accepting the reality that the attraction needs to be re-themed. Attacking those that support a re-theme does nothing to support your case.
ImperfectPixie
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That the attraction is deeply flawed is your OPINION. One that has been under dispute for years. The ONLY indisputable fact here is that Disney chose to re-theme it.
Phil12
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They chose to re-theme it because it is deeply flawed. You may believe otherwise, but you'll only be fooling yourself and ignoring the truth of the matter. And that's fine with me. Splash Mountain is based upon the movie Song of the South which Bob Iger says, "Is not appropriate in today's world". Hence the attraction is not appropriate either. It's not complicated.
ImperfectPixie
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Again...deeply flawed is an opinion. I'm not ignoring the truth of anything. That Disney as a company sees it as flawed is STILL an OPINION.
Sharon&Susan
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This ain't appropriate in today's world either, but Disney still did it anyway:
‘Star Wars’ China Poster Sparks Controversy After Shrinking John Boyega’s Character
The "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" China poster shrunk or removed all non-white characters, including black actor John Boyega's Finn.
variety.com
ImperfectPixie
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Let me put it in simpler terms. If you were in a university class and trying to prove that "deeply flawed" is a fact...you'd fail.
dig311dug
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Iger is/was a terrible CEO who practically bankrupted the company so don’t take his word as gospel.
Phil12
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The movie Song of the South was controversial from its release and over the years the controversy has increased.
Since Disney owns it, their opinion is important. That carries a lot more weight than your thoughts on the matter. They have locked the movie into their vault and decided to dispose of the current Splash Mountain theme due to valid concerns of overt racism in the movie and the attraction. That's not my opinion. That's a fact. TWDC has taken these actions because the movie and the attraction are deeply flawed due to conspicuous racist displays in both. This is simply a case of you denying the facts and the truth of the matter.
And I think that is a serious part of the problem. The reason why TWDC refuses to re-release the film Song of the South is in part because of people who deny or excuse the racist elements of the film. The famous and highly respected film critic Roger Ebert normally is adamantly against keeping films locked away from public view. Yet in the case of Song of the South he supported Disney's decision to keep this film locked in their vault.
You fail to see the deep flaws that many other people see. But Disney clearly sees the deep flaws in both the movie and the attraction and they have long ago taken action concerning the movie and they are about to take action concerning the attraction. They would not take such action if these properties were flawless.
ImperfectPixie
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“Flawless” is also subjective and in the eye of the beholder.
I would really suggest you do some reading up on the difference between provable fact and opinion.
That the debate has continued for at least a decade is proof that both the film and the attraction are problematic. That does not equal “flawed” or “flawless”.
dig311dug
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Phil12
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The material facts of the matter are the same and not in dispute. You have chosen to make this a dispute of semantics since that is the last tiny piece of argument you logically have left.
But it's fitting that your argument also embraces a small minority opinion as well. If Walt were alive today, he would deeply apologize for making of Song of the South just as other show business personalities have apologized for their insensitive treatment of black people.
But of course Walt isn't here. So executives of the company have decided not to further distribute or sell a movie that is steeped in racism and they've also decided to re-theme Splash Mountain for the same reason.
Those are what we call provable facts yet you wish to think it's just my opinion. Well, I suppose I should be flattered to think that my opinion is so very powerful!
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