PhotoDave219
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I like Iger too and i think he's doing a decent job, i just want a P&R head that has worked in the parks. Someone who knows what Disney magic really is.
Lets make him (Staggs) friends with Goofy or Tigger for a week.
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I like Iger too and i think he's doing a decent job, i just want a P&R head that has worked in the parks. Someone who knows what Disney magic really is.
Lets make him (Staggs) friends with Goofy or Tigger for a week.
EPCOT Explorer
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Yes, please. :lol:
Lasseter or McPhee would be splendid.Now that McPhee is in this new spot though, I am a bit more hopeful for WDW.
PhotoDave219
Well-Known Member
Well... once can hope.
It depends on if he's gonna be a strict numbers guy or a guy who tries to make the numbers fit in the ideas.
It depends on if he's gonna be a strict numbers guy or a guy who tries to make the numbers fit in the ideas.
DisneyNut2007
Active Member
They have not!!!
You do know that you continue to become just as bad as all those other naysayers, right, Drew?
Please stop going down that road, for God's sake!
DisneyNut2007
Active Member
...but WDW doesn't seem to know how to handle much anymore, does it.
Once again, you and your fellow doom-and-gloomers are dead wrong in every respect!
Where's Enderikari and Wannab@dis when you need them?
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
When do you think we will know by? :lol: 2013 when the walls open on FLE? A big first test.
PhotoDave219
Well-Known Member
I think we'll know long before FLE is finished. Our Bothans will tell us.....
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
Kinda like with SM. Great.:zipit:
Studios Fan
Active Member
I agree.
PhotoDave219
Well-Known Member
Well, I'll go with your attitude of hoping for the best and that he's a numbers guy that will somehow make the ideas work with the money he has.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
Only way to stay afloat! :lol:
And yes, much before FLE, I was wrong about that.
Perhaps a certain day in October in a year or two will really be the "beginning".
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Originally Posted by PhotoDave219
I think MK is in good hands with him at the moment..
I, obviously, am not a fan of Phil's. But I hear he is a regular reader/fan of mine, so he obviously isn't completely lacking in taste. He also was nice to me when we met back in 1990 and neither one of us knew the other ... or what the future held!
But I also know he's had plenty of hands-on management decisions that have lowered the quality of a MK visit. Bottom line is he's been in the job for a very long time by Disney standards. It's time for them to move him to another position he is ill-equipped for.
Pirates definitely was his 'fault' and it just shouldn't have been allowed.
Space was as well, but only to a point. ... Because ultimately, folks above him should have done the playcalling on the redo, much like folks way above him pushed the F-Land project through. So, while I blame him in a big way, people above should have stopped and just said 'Space Mountain is decrepit and stuck in the 1970s and we have a chance to make it an amazing cutting edge experience that folks will talk about from the second they get home, so we're shutting it down for two years and doing this right'. ... They didn't.
But I also refuse to give Phil much credit on Mansion. Eric's team was largely responsible and despite a rather small budget, did great things. I guess the best I can say on that subject was Phil just stayed out of the way.
Still, there's no way I can say MK is in good hands. There's only one park at WDW I feel is being run by folks who get it and care ... and their hands are being tied by folks above. Out of all the park VPs, Phil has the most power. Should they be equal? Yes. But he's been there for so long while all the others have new guys. He also has the No. 1 theme park in the world and loves having that hanging over his head (tempted to drop in an off-color remark here but will restrain myself) ... and that gives him a bit of leeway the others simply don't get. :xmas:
Originally Posted by PhotoDave219
I think MK is in good hands with him at the moment..
I, obviously, am not a fan of Phil's. But I hear he is a regular reader/fan of mine, so he obviously isn't completely lacking in taste. He also was nice to me when we met back in 1990 and neither one of us knew the other ... or what the future held!
But I also know he's had plenty of hands-on management decisions that have lowered the quality of a MK visit. Bottom line is he's been in the job for a very long time by Disney standards. It's time for them to move him to another position he is ill-equipped for.
Pirates definitely was his 'fault' and it just shouldn't have been allowed.
Space was as well, but only to a point. ... Because ultimately, folks above him should have done the playcalling on the redo, much like folks way above him pushed the F-Land project through. So, while I blame him in a big way, people above should have stopped and just said 'Space Mountain is decrepit and stuck in the 1970s and we have a chance to make it an amazing cutting edge experience that folks will talk about from the second they get home, so we're shutting it down for two years and doing this right'. ... They didn't.
But I also refuse to give Phil much credit on Mansion. Eric's team was largely responsible and despite a rather small budget, did great things. I guess the best I can say on that subject was Phil just stayed out of the way.
Still, there's no way I can say MK is in good hands. There's only one park at WDW I feel is being run by folks who get it and care ... and their hands are being tied by folks above. Out of all the park VPs, Phil has the most power. Should they be equal? Yes. But he's been there for so long while all the others have new guys. He also has the No. 1 theme park in the world and loves having that hanging over his head (tempted to drop in an off-color remark here but will restrain myself) ... and that gives him a bit of leeway the others simply don't get. :xmas:
PhotoDave219
Well-Known Member
I'm just going with the devil I know.... versus some Meg Crofton HR type beancounter.
You aren't bothering me and I started the thread, so feel free to take the conversation wherever it flows to. Threads die when there's nothing new to talk about ... besides, I'd rather talk about DLP now. I'll sound much more positive.
It is the only part that doesn't feel so cold and sterile. But I don't know how much they can do. The layout of the park and decision to make mostly large soundstage buildings has kind of hamstrung them now.
Tower is same version as in DCA as it was 'borrowed' quickly when DCA faultered at opening. A different version in a different location was supposed to be built around 2006-07.
Anyway, back to DSP ... the one thing that's going to really hurt is the lack of water and greenery. DLP is so lush and DSP is so not.
So far, so good. I think ... she is in Nuremberg now for NYE. Was skiing somewhere. Also was in Munich and is headed to Berlin for three days before heading back to FLA. ... She's been to Germany once before, but none of the above.
I love shows, well, good ones. Those two were really wonderful. Better than anything at WDW, so I do miss them.
And I don't (normally) wear women's clothing so I can't comment on that!:ROFLOL:
I'd go. And I think I will! And I'm a lot further away!
As for MK, I largely go out of habit. Although I really did have a great time there a few weeks ago ... I think the cool weather and empty park definitely had something to do with that.
But largely, my WDW trips are about EPCOT, DAK and resorts, and then everything else. Dining used to be way up there, but that's all changed since the DDP took over.
Yeah. DCA isn't close to the cold empty feeling of DSP and never has come close. And HKDL (another park 'built on the cheap') is like a masterpiece in comparison too.
I dunno ... I hear about this a lot and I have to say that DLP CMs were universally good to GREAT on my last trip. I filled out four compliment cards at City Hall and could have done 40 (btw, they were shocked that we were doing so). I get the idea that Europeans feel the French have 'tudes and go in with 'tudes themselves (especially the UKers who are still fighting wars from the middle ages!) ... CMs were just so friendly, so helpful and (dare I say it, as an American used to seeing 300-pound slovenly WDW CMs, very attractive ... both female and male!)
The worst guests seemed to come from Spain. I'd compare the way the French and British (see, they have something in common) bitched about them to the way Brazilians are ripped by WDW regulars, as they tend to be loud, tend to treat queues as suggestions and are often not pleasant to be around. Yet, one of the nicest families we met were standing in a queue for Crush's Coaster with us and we talked for about 45 minutes (part English, part Spanish), so I just don't like to paint groups with broad brushes. ... I mean, even I admit I like some Disney execs!
:animwink::xmas:
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Originally Posted by Pumbas Nakasak
Numbers guys know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
Absolutely.
And that's why Staggs scares me. He IS a numbers guy. Just like Rasulo.
He did get started in Strat Planning, which was hated and derided by so many in so many divisions of the company under Eisner.
Worse, Iger has said largely that nothing will change. That his vision is Jay's vision and will be Tom's vision. ... I don't like a lot (not all by any means) of that vision.
Good points that I've heard though:
He isn't a total like JR and, indeed, is pretty well-liked;
He has kids (unlike JR) and you'd guess that seeing the parks through his kids eyes may clue him in a bit on what works and what doesn't;
He values the input of others (unlike JR);
He seems to think (although many say this won't happen no matter what) that if he does this job well, he sets himself up to be No. 2 at Disney and someday, No.1.
Originally Posted by Pumbas Nakasak
Numbers guys know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
Absolutely.
And that's why Staggs scares me. He IS a numbers guy. Just like Rasulo.
He did get started in Strat Planning, which was hated and derided by so many in so many divisions of the company under Eisner.
Worse, Iger has said largely that nothing will change. That his vision is Jay's vision and will be Tom's vision. ... I don't like a lot (not all by any means) of that vision.
Good points that I've heard though:
He isn't a total like JR and, indeed, is pretty well-liked;
He has kids (unlike JR) and you'd guess that seeing the parks through his kids eyes may clue him in a bit on what works and what doesn't;
He values the input of others (unlike JR);
He seems to think (although many say this won't happen no matter what) that if he does this job well, he sets himself up to be No. 2 at Disney and someday, No.1.
I would have liked to get all of them (although I would have had to leave them with a friend in O-town since I had no room left), but with only two there wasn't any choice. I really wanted the skeleton pirate at the wheel, but those were long gone.
A CM at PC told us these were the only ones they were getting, yet I can't help but think that WDCC sales are way down in this economy and other series/pieces will be winding up there.
And the 50%, we didn't know until we heard the CM announcing it, and another CM told us in a shop. I agree, very foolish with no signs, but WDW doesn't seem to know how to handle much anymore, does it.
No, they don't.
What's surprising is the 2009 stuff at WDW now at 50% is actually better than the 2008 stuff that the outlet store near me is still selling with most in the 30-40% range (I'd be selling anything with 2008 on it at 80-90% off myself, but I'm not in retailing ... just spent a lifetime buying stuff!)
Oh, and again, nice to see you here yoyo and a very happy and healthy 2010! :xmas::wave::xmas:
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Originally Posted by PhotoDave219
I like Iger too and i think he's doing a decent job, i just want a P&R head that has worked in the parks. Someone who knows what Disney magic really is.
Lets make him (Staggs) friends with Goofy or Tigger for a week.
The reality is the days of having someone who knows the parks running them is long past.
And John Lasseter is exactly where he belongs -- and wants to be. I like him sticking his nose around at WDI, but I don't see him as the type of guy to take on a job like that. He's a creative.
As for Jim MacPhee, his experience is great at WDW ... but not beyond. Not saying he couldn't run P&R, but he wouldn't be one of my top choices. I want to see what he can and does do in his new role! :xmas:
Originally Posted by PhotoDave219
I like Iger too and i think he's doing a decent job, i just want a P&R head that has worked in the parks. Someone who knows what Disney magic really is.
Lets make him (Staggs) friends with Goofy or Tigger for a week.
The reality is the days of having someone who knows the parks running them is long past.
And John Lasseter is exactly where he belongs -- and wants to be. I like him sticking his nose around at WDI, but I don't see him as the type of guy to take on a job like that. He's a creative.
As for Jim MacPhee, his experience is great at WDW ... but not beyond. Not saying he couldn't run P&R, but he wouldn't be one of my top choices. I want to see what he can and does do in his new role! :xmas:
PhotoDave219
Well-Known Member
Well if Staggs listens to MacPhee.... it COULD work. Mebbie....
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
I do think he'll be good for the quality of the parks, and might take a position that listens to the fan base a bit more. His work for EPCOT's 25th (Albeit just a day, and not nearly what it could and should have been...sounds like the 40th.) spoke volumes about what he wanted to do. Not like Brad Rex who flat out said "NO."Quote:
Originally Posted by PhotoDave219
I like Iger too and i think he's doing a decent job, i just want a P&R head that has worked in the parks. Someone who knows what Disney magic really is.
Lets make him (Staggs) friends with Goofy or Tigger for a week.
The reality is the days of having someone who knows the parks running them is long past.
And John Lasseter is exactly where he belongs -- and wants to be. I like him sticking his nose around at WDI, but I don't see him as the type of guy to take on a job like that. He's a creative.
As for Jim MacPhee, his experience is great at WDW ... but not beyond. Not saying he couldn't run P&R, but he wouldn't be one of my top choices. I want to see what he can and does do in his new role! :xmas:
:lol: Just want to ask you one thing...Why not Lasseter? His creativity and zela for the parks would be perfect.
And his kids...
...And has Eisner values....
And....:lol:
This is too intricate for my taste.
Studios Fan
Active Member
Let's hope Staggs is better.