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janoimagine

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I have not tried it, admittedly I have assumed that it just works once the first 3 are used.
I tried but it never worked ... you cannot use the app or the website. You have to go to a kiosk or have a MM+ CM Assist you, only after you have used up your 3 FP's for the day ... and you currently can't pick say a 9-10am FP at the MK, a 1-2pm at Epcot, and a 5-6pm FP for say AK ... I would hope they would fix this ... soon.
 

cw1982

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I tried but it never worked ... you cannot use the app or the website. You have to go to a kiosk or have a MM+ CM Assist you, only after you have used up your 3 FP's for the day ... and you currently can't pick say a 9-10am FP at the MK, a 1-2pm at Epcot, and a 5-6pm FP for say AK ... I would hope they would fix this ... soon.

I agree that they need to let guests use the mobile app to book extra fastpasses, but IMO it wouldn't make sense to let them book fastpasses at multiple parks at once in the same day. I can see how this would create problems by way of people wasting passes because they don't allow for enough time for transportation between parks, etc. There's a much lower risk of people booking passes that they won't get to use if they have already left the previous park and made it to the next one before they book those extra passes at the second park.
 

RSoxNo1

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I tried but it never worked ... you cannot use the app or the website. You have to go to a kiosk or have a MM+ CM Assist you, only after you have used up your 3 FP's for the day ... and you currently can't pick say a 9-10am FP at the MK, a 1-2pm at Epcot, and a 5-6pm FP for say AK ... I would hope they would fix this ... soon.
That is my understanding of how it would work. You have to actually switch parks and use a kiosk. I too hope this changes, but I don't have an issue with having to check into the second park.
 

Travel Junkie

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There are very few fanboi’s, lifestylers, and or bloggers at DLR compared to WDW. Look at how few DL centric fansites are out there, compared to WDW focused ones. While WDW events bring out bloggers in droves, the DLR ones feature legitimate media out numbering the online bloggers by a significant margin. That mommy blogger summit recently being an exception rather than the rule.


DL gets around 16 million clicks per year and they have about 1 million AP’s. The math says not many of them are visiting daily or even weekly. My guess is that the average local is going once a month or less. This is California. Frankly there’s a lot more to do here than go to Disneyland every day. :cool:


Disneyland has been ingrained into So Cal culture as a place to hang out. One of the first things you notice in relation to WDW is how many places to sit and relax there is. Going all the way back to the Walt days, people congregate and swing dance on Saturday nights. It is hard to describe to a WDW person how locals tour DLR. So many go and never get on a ride. They grab a bite to eat, watch some entertainment, and go home.


Yes, AP’s drive down the cost per visit, but AP’s are your most loyal customers and I would bet they buy more Disney product inside AND outside the park. In a sense AP’s sold are creating brand loyalty, which extends outside the parks. They are a loss leader for the company as they attempt to create lifelong fans for the company as a whole. AP’s are more likely to support Disney movies and TV shows. They buy more merchandise over the course of a year than your one time visitor.


DLR’s bloated AP base does need amending and I hope they can find a solution that will allow first time visitors have a good time while still allowing locals to continue visiting the park as they do currently.
 

Nubs70

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In regards to FP+, why not allow users to select with moblie device at all times and reduce the maximum to 1 attraction at a time and allow additional selection beginning at the return time of the original selection?
 

SoupBone

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Unfortunately their business plan seems to be, more money right now. They are failing to keep some of the most loyal fans interested, except for those who would be happy with anything Disney gives them. A fifth gate and reasonable hotel rates would ensure people would come for the next 25 years. Their current scheme can only possibly appeal to people that only plan on coming once every 10 years.

I would much prefer for them to actually focus on parks like MGM, and expanding some of the areas that need some life breathed into them.
 

Rasvar

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Yes, AP’s drive down the cost per visit, but AP’s are your most loyal customers and I would bet they buy more Disney product inside AND outside the park. In a sense AP’s sold are creating brand loyalty, which extends outside the parks. They are a loss leader for the company as they attempt to create lifelong fans for the company as a whole. AP’s are more likely to support Disney movies and TV shows. They buy more merchandise over the course of a year than your one time visitor.


DLR’s bloated AP base does need amending and I hope they can find a solution that will allow first time visitors have a good time while still allowing locals to continue visiting the park as they do currently.

AP's also get much better discounts on food and merchandise at DLR depending on the pass. With the discounts, it actually makes just going to the park to have a bite to eat not unreasonable.
 

Phil12

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I tried but it never worked ... you cannot use the app or the website. You have to go to a kiosk or have a MM+ CM Assist you, only after you have used up your 3 FP's for the day ... and you currently can't pick say a 9-10am FP at the MK, a 1-2pm at Epcot, and a 5-6pm FP for say AK ... I would hope they would fix this ... soon.
I would think that they will continue to discourage such behavior. When you're traveling between parks (either via Disney transport or private car) you're not spending money. The idea behind FP+ is to make more money by allowing the guest to buy stuff rather than stand in line. I don't think FP+ was ever designed for guest convenience.
 

wogwog

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I would think that they will continue to discourage such behavior. When you're traveling between parks (either via Disney transport or private car) you're not spending money. The idea behind FP+ is to make more money by allowing the guest to buy stuff rather than stand in line. I don't think FP+ was ever designed for guest convenience.
Di$ney alway$ put$ gue$t $atisfaction fir$t over profit$, e$pecially AP$ and local$.
 

truecoat

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There are very few fanboi’s, lifestylers, and or bloggers at DLR compared to WDW. Look at how few DL centric fansites are out there, compared to WDW focused ones. While WDW events bring out bloggers in droves, the DLR ones feature legitimate media out numbering the online bloggers by a significant margin. That mommy blogger summit recently being an exception rather than the rule.


DL gets around 16 million clicks per year and they have about 1 million AP’s. The math says not many of them are visiting daily or even weekly. My guess is that the average local is going once a month or less. This is California. Frankly there’s a lot more to do here than go to Disneyland every day. :cool:


Disneyland has been ingrained into So Cal culture as a place to hang out. One of the first things you notice in relation to WDW is how many places to sit and relax there is. Going all the way back to the Walt days, people congregate and swing dance on Saturday nights. It is hard to describe to a WDW person how locals tour DLR. So many go and never get on a ride. They grab a bite to eat, watch some entertainment, and go home.


Yes, AP’s drive down the cost per visit, but AP’s are your most loyal customers and I would bet they buy more Disney product inside AND outside the park. In a sense AP’s sold are creating brand loyalty, which extends outside the parks. They are a loss leader for the company as they attempt to create lifelong fans for the company as a whole. AP’s are more likely to support Disney movies and TV shows. They buy more merchandise over the course of a year than your one time visitor.


DLR’s bloated AP base does need amending and I hope they can find a solution that will allow first time visitors have a good time while still allowing locals to continue visiting the park as they do currently.

This decision to cap AP's may have more to do with parking instead of capacity. APer's coming one per car and using all the spots. The long rumored parking garage might alleviate the cap on more AP's.
 

WildcatDen

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Honestly, you are probably not the average AP holder. Since DLR is more of a locals park it's probably not real common that AP holders stay overnight on property. I'm not sure about meals. I would imagine AP holders spend a decent amount of money on food, but there are also a number of food options just outside the park too.
I wonder how many annual pass holders do character meals? Not many I bet. As a pass holder to King's Island, we try and limit our food purchase to just one meal while there and maybe a dessert when we are leaving. Although, we pass a UDF and a Culvers on our way home so we could all get a double scoop there for less than half of what we would pay in the park.
 

bhg469

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Twitter..... I don't know why I bother but the second I say anything positive on twitter regarding universal, suddenly, people will argue and not give any valid reasons why they Dont go there. One person said Harry Potter was stupid because the kid is a wimp and he could beat up potter in real life so they won't set foot in universal... what the hell?!
 

cw1982

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Twitter..... I don't know why I bother but the second I say anything positive on twitter regarding universal, suddenly, people will argue and not give any valid reasons why they Dont go there. One person said Harry Potter was stupid because the kid is a wimp and he could beat up potter in real life so they won't set foot in universal... what the hell?!

I love Harry Potter. I usually end up rereading them once a year for fun. What can I say... they're good books, and the movies are pretty entertaining.

Sounds like whoever said that has some serious masculinity issues lol.
 

LondonGopher

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Yes, AP’s drive down the cost per visit, but AP’s are your most loyal customers and I would bet they buy more Disney product inside AND outside the park. In a sense AP’s sold are creating brand loyalty, which extends outside the parks. They are a loss leader for the company as they attempt to create lifelong fans for the company as a whole. AP’s are more likely to support Disney movies and TV shows. They buy more merchandise over the course of a year than your one time visitor.

^^^ SO TRUE. In addition, Annual Pass Holders bring "fresh meat" into the parks. If you live in Southern California, Central Florida (or, you know, LONDON)...you will get a lot of friends and family coming to visit (hooray...:rolleyes:). We have English Heritage, National Trust AND Merlin passes because we take family/friends to Stonehenge (20+ visits and counting), Warwick Castle, The London Eye...multiple times per year. We pay a discounted admission, but in addition to being a predictable source of income and a stationary target for third-party advertisers (like magazine subscribers) - we also bring in those coveted once in a lifetime big spenders.

"Hey, Bill lives near Disneyland...we should ask him to show us around!"

"Hey, Gopher lives in London...I'm sure she'd like nothing better than to see a waxworks Justin Bieber for the fiftieth time..." :hungover:
 

asianway

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Twitter..... I don't know why I bother but the second I say anything positive on twitter regarding universal, suddenly, people will argue and not give any valid reasons why they Dont go there. One person said Harry Potter was stupid because the kid is a wimp and he could beat up potter in real life so they won't set foot in universal... what the hell?!
Serious...mental...illness
 

Cesar R M

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Twitter..... I don't know why I bother but the second I say anything positive on twitter regarding universal, suddenly, people will argue and not give any valid reasons why they Dont go there. One person said Harry Potter was stupid because the kid is a wimp and he could beat up potter in real life so they won't set foot in universal... what the hell?!

that's a classic online "macho guy" (better known as "e-tough guy" or "internet tough guy").
Sad and hilarious at same time.
 

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