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dhall

dhall

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Nubs70 said:
Documentation diminishes their power. Lack of documentation makes the IT individual indispensable in a dispensible world.
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It's not so much that as not wanting to waste time writing an explanation of the system that no one will read, follow, or even understand. It's hard enough describing how a system works into user-speak, let alone doing so in writing.
 
dhall

dhall

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Nubs70 said:
It may have a degree of truth. It does have a scent of CYA. It sounds that the day of reckoning is approaching on MM+. After all what I read between he lines is "The product was designed by someone else, who did not fully document what they did or how it works, so how can I be accountable?"
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I don't buy that the tech specs of the band are really any part of the problem: the bands are really dumb transmitter/sensee dongles. The likely technical issues are 1) how many readers/sensors/pieces of associated network equipment have to be provisioned, 2) location of same for sufficient coverage of 3) a large number of mobile 'assets' being tracked, and 4) tying all of the disparate, value-engineered systems together.
 
Omnispace

Omnispace

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Figments Friend said:
Ahhhh...now you are talking!
This looks infinitely better then that terribly distracting and out of place high rise condo tower.

Looking at this makes me so wish Disney went this route, but the costs today to *clone* the Contemporary would not be something today*s Disney would want to pay out for.
A shame, as this design still works today and is eyecatching and classy.
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Thanks! I'm sure it would have been cost prohibitive and who knows....someone might have tossed this idea out there. Cloning the entire building to each side would have been too massive, but just adding half of the original building size to each end of the main building would have effectively doubled the room count in that building. It would have allowed for more guests to stay in the "iconic" section of the hotel. Also, taking an "extruded" building and lengthening it seems to make it more grand. IMO, it would have given the Contemporary resort a fresh image and reestablished Disney's commitment to their legacy at WDW.

Another thing they could do would be to build between the main building and the lake with suites that look out over landscaped terraces. It would make a nice connection between the lake shore and the fourth floor concourse and create a unique set of accommodations. It would almost be like a contemporary "village" that terraces down to the lake and include places to eat and some shops.

Here's a more reasonable addition to the main building. The other was getting to be like something out of Star Wars. Again, ...all in good fun. ;)

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flynnibus

flynnibus

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71jason said:
Friday night anecdote making the rounds around the Orlando engineering community:

MagicBands were designed by a woman in Imagineering with a reputation for being able to work miracles once, but then not being able to replicate those miracles on a routine basis under real life conditions. She designed the MB and showed it to whatever corporate higher-ups approved it. Soon after, tho, she quit, leaving everyone else to make sense of the notes she left behind. To this day, Imagineering still has no idea what role half the circuitry in MBs plays.
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Don't buy it...

Not understanding choices? Sure...
Not understanding something they actually got to production? No way... too many people have to have their finger prints on stuff for one person to know everything and everyone else to know nothing.

And besides, the device is so simple.. all the complexity is really in the other end of the system, not the bands.

Maybe there is some slice of truth in there, but it sounds completely distorted and misapplied in this retelling.
 
Disneyhead'71

Disneyhead'71

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My guess is they understand the components in the bands. They are relatively simple. If there is confusion, it would be "why did they put this in here?"
 
the.dreamfinder

the.dreamfinder

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NoChesterHester said:
The Contemporary is 70's brutalist. It isn't timeless. It isn't attractive. There is a reason this architectural style is completely dead. We don't need more of it.

There were many many things they could have done with Bay Lake Tower that they didn't.
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Honestly, I really want them to knock down all of the Contemporary (BLT and Contemporary south included) and build an A-Frame hotel inspired by architects like Eero Saarinen with a present, but understated charm; which is something the Contemporary lacks.
 
NoChesterHester

NoChesterHester

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the.dreamfinder said:
Honestly, I really want them to knock down all of the Contemporary (BLT and Contemporary south included) and build an A-Frame hotel inspired by architects like Eero Sarinnen with a present, but understated charm; which is something the Contemporary lacks.
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A mid century modern or international style would have met the definition of timeless. Classic, simple, and beautiful.

I love this, except for the a-frame thing. Useless building form.
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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Omnispace said:
Thanks! I'm sure it would have been cost prohibitive and who knows....someone might have tossed this idea out there. Cloning the entire building to each side would have been too massive, but just adding half of the original building size to each end of the main building would have effectively doubled the room count in that building. It would have allowed for more guests to stay in the "iconic" section of the hotel. Also, taking an "extruded" building and lengthening it seems to make it more grand. IMO, it would have given the Contemporary resort a fresh image and reestablished Disney's commitment to their legacy at WDW.

Another thing they could do would be to build between the main building and the lake with suites that look out over landscaped terraces. It would make a nice connection between the lake shore and the fourth floor concourse and create a unique set of accommodations. It would almost be like a contemporary "village" that terraces down to the lake and include places to eat and some shops.

Here's a more reasonable addition to the main building. The other was getting to be like something out of Star Wars. Again, ...all in good fun. ;)

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For me, I'll take BLT as it stands over this look. Keep the original as is.
 
Figments Friend

Figments Friend

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Omnispace said:
Thanks! I'm sure it would have been cost prohibitive and who knows....someone might have tossed this idea out there. Cloning the entire building to each side would have been too massive, but just adding half of the original building size to each end of the main building would have effectively doubled the room count in that building. It would have allowed for more guests to stay in the "iconic" section of the hotel. Also, taking an "extruded" building and lengthening it seems to make it more grand. IMO, it would have given the Contemporary resort a fresh image and reestablished Disney's commitment to their legacy at WDW.

Another thing they could do would be to build between the main building and the lake with suites that look out over landscaped terraces. It would make a nice connection between the lake shore and the fourth floor concourse and create a unique set of accommodations. It would almost be like a contemporary "village" that terraces down to the lake and include places to eat and some shops.

Here's a more reasonable addition to the main building. The other was getting to be like something out of Star Wars. Again, ...all in good fun. ;)

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Beautifully put.

I like your ideas!

:)
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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MarkTwain said:
Yep. It'd be nice if World Showcase got a new ride, but I'm not sure this is the right choice. While Ratatouille may have taken place in France, by the sounds of it the ride has much more to do with scurrying around a kitchen than showcasing a national culture. At least Gran Fiesta Tour, while toonified, does that much.
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This would be a nice fit to the existing France pavilion. I think the area includes the ride plus a restaurant and some shopping:
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NoChesterHester

NoChesterHester

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MarkTwain said:
Yep. It'd be nice if World Showcase got a new ride, but I'm not sure this is the right choice. While Ratatouille may have taken place in France, by the sounds of it the ride has much more to do with scurrying around a kitchen than showcasing a national culture. At least Gran Fiesta Tour, while toonified, does that much.
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I used to feel the same way and get the sentiment.

I have been lucky enough to travel to most of the actual countries represented in World Showcase. I have no illusions that World Showcase represents the real cultural heritage of these places. It is the worlds best themed shopping and dining mall. I admit I enjoy the sterilized Disney version, I'm not knocking it.

I'll take an addition of a real e-ticket ride.
 

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