Disneyhead'71
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What's so hard to understand? Some people were unaware that there would be actual people in the movie.
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Funmeister
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Before it is over with the windows will be removed or open. For a philosophy of focusing on storytelling as being the driving force in designing an attraction...this one is lacking.
GoofGoof
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It's the other way around. The AAs were upgraded from the original plans. The original plans that everyone is upset over had a longer track length with multiple indoor show scenes. I think Lee posted the plans a long time ago during the early stages of construction. These same plans also had very limited animated figures which were shown briefly at D23. It wasn't until the 11th hour until the AAs were upgraded. I believe Lee and at least 1 other person had seen the original plans and said the finished product AAs were definitely upgraded. So what I'm saying is what if they went with the original plans but never decided to upgrade the AAs? Would that have made it a better attraction? Not in my mind.
Could they have gone with the longer track length and upgraded AAs? Sure. But there was never a set of plans for that version of the ride.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Maybe...but not guaranteed.
Captain Neo
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The original 7 Dwarfs coaster would have had a longer track and more show scenes and the show scenes would have all used the new AA's. They cut it down because of the usual "value engineering" that happens at the modern Walt Disney Company.
I don't think you will ever see an attraction on the scale or caliber of something like Splash Mountain, Pirates of the Caribbean, or Horizons ever again. Going the extra mile and having nice richly themed sets, Audio Animatronic figures, and surprises is not something Disney is interested in doing anymore sadly.
I don't think you will ever see an attraction on the scale or caliber of something like Splash Mountain, Pirates of the Caribbean, or Horizons ever again. Going the extra mile and having nice richly themed sets, Audio Animatronic figures, and surprises is not something Disney is interested in doing anymore sadly.
GoofGoof
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That may be true, but it is not what insiders here who saw the plans said. The new AAs came along well after they switched to the shorter track length. To my knowledge there were never plans that included both a longer track length and the upgraded AAs.
ParentsOf4
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SDMT's biggest problem might be capacity.
With SDMT, the Magic Kingdom might have its first ride where hour-plus standby waits are the norm even on slow days.
SDMT might turn out to be the Magic Kingdom's version of Toy Story Mania or Soarin'.
mm52200
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Any actual idea how many trains they can run at a time on th track? I'm sure it'll have long waits since it's brand new and it's literally in the middle of Fantasyland so it'll get a lot of interest just from people walking by but nothing like TSM or Soarin' since there's so many other attractions at MK. TSM and Soarin are popular in their own right, but they are also big attractions in parks sorely lacking in attractions.
tirian
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It's the new Dumbo!
the.dreamfinder
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Something to keep in mind as Spidey's BO returns come out over the weekend.
the.dreamfinder
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im betting the next thing will be the Rivers of Light, maybe 2015
same thing I said
MerlinTheGoat
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It's unlikely that the track reduction had anything to do with better figures being approved. Until very recently, even when the current track layout was already well under construction they were still planning to use the older less advanced figures. If the track reduction did have something to do with it, we'd probably have known about the more advanced figures a long time ago. As it stands, Lee saw the lesser figures just about a year ago, so it was clearly a last minute change and I see little logic in assuming the track reduction had much to do with the figures being upgraded. I'm glad they did upgrade the figures, but i'd much rather have had the original track layout AND the newer figures, it really shouldn't be too much to wish for both as even the original concept for the ride's layout wasn't anything that bold or daring from a design perspective. The longer track would not just have made the ride better and allowed for more outdoor show elements, it may also have added additional capacity as well (speculation on my part but a longer track would likely have allowed more trains on the track at once).
Here's again what the original track layout looked like apparently (though not identical to the concept art, it's pretty close)-
And the current version of the layout-
One does wonder who made the decision to give the ride more budget to upgrade the figures though at the last minute. It's actually shocking.
Here's again what the original track layout looked like apparently (though not identical to the concept art, it's pretty close)-
And the current version of the layout-
One does wonder who made the decision to give the ride more budget to upgrade the figures though at the last minute. It's actually shocking.
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Captain Neo
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That would be Tom Staggs who also decided to get the project approved after Rasolu wanted to make meet & greet land and pass that off as some amazing new expansion.
Bairstow
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Beats the six year gap between Everest and Mermaid.
Animaniac93-98
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Midway Mania opened inbetween in 2008.
Cesar R M
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It's unlikely that the track reduction had anything to do with better figures being approved. Until very recently, even when the current track layout was already well under construction they were still planning to use the older less advanced figures. If the track reduction did have something to do with it, we'd probably have known about the more advanced figures a long time ago. As it stands, Lee saw the lesser figures just about a year ago, so it was clearly a last minute change and I see little logic in assuming the track reduction had much to do with the figures being upgraded. I'm glad they did upgrade the figures, but i'd much rather have had the original track layout AND the newer figures, it really shouldn't be too much to wish for both as even the original concept for the ride's layout wasn't anything that bold or daring from a design perspective. The longer track would not just have made the ride better and allowed for more outdoor show elements, it may also have added additional capacity as well (speculation on my part but a longer track would likely have allowed more trains on the track at once).
Here's again what the original track layout looked like apparently (though not identical to the concept art, it's pretty close)-
And the current version of the layout-
One does wonder who made the decision to give the ride more budget to upgrade the figures though at the last minute. It's actually shocking.
My question would always be.. isnt more expensive and wasteful to make the changes.. research a new completely track and build it on top of the planned track than just go ahead on the original track + upgraded figures?
I tough we're talking about WDW only?
DisneyDad1977
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Isn't TSMM at WDW?