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[lazyboy97o]

I have no skin in this game either way, Star Wars or Game of Thrones, but it seems that a logical comparison would be posting a Game of Thrones casting update, not posting actual content from the books.

While you have the right to be disappointed that the appearance of certain characters in the new movie will no longer be a surprise for you, the circumstances by which they appear and what they do are still very much unspoiled.

There is no way in hell that Disney was ever going to keep the original cast's inclusion a secret. They're going to be all over posters, commercials, trailers and pre-release merchandise. And while Star Wars films do not have opening credits (which spoil the main cast of a film right before it starts), they do feature the opening crawl that would in all likelihood also spoil that the three will be involved. The rest of the cast are all new characters with no names or roles announced.

 

[CDavid]

In the grand scheme of FLE it's an E and will draw E crowds for a while.

But alas, that's just my opinion since they don't lable them with letters anymore.

With respect to your opinion, and to the fact that any 'ticket' designation is necessarily a bit subjective since Disney doesn't use ticket books anymore, there should be some sort of unofficial, loose standard by which attractions are judged. It can't just be left to opinion or the fact a given attraction is just the grandest ride in its particular land or park. Were that the case, both It's Tough to be a Bug and Carousel of Progress, respectively, could arguably be classed as "E" tickets.

By any reasonable standard, Fantasyland has gained a solid "D" ticket attraction, but you are quite correct that it will draw "E" level crowds. It's the greatest new Disney attraction coming in the next few years...of course, it's also the only new Disney attraction coming in the next few years.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Someone has anger management issues... Come on Dave, stop acting like a whiny little baby and

Cast lists are not movie nor are they story spoilers... Posting what happens in a book or movie, revealing the plot or the ending or what happens to certain characters, yes those are spoilers... But saying Ben Affleck is playing Batman/Bruce Wayne, how the hell is that spoiling the movie unless you hate Ben Affleck and think he'll suck as Batman?

It's not even as much information as saying Ben Affleck will be Batman. It would just be saying Ben Affleck will be in the Man of Steel sequel.

 

[lazyboy97o]

In the grand scheme of FLE it's an E and will draw E crowds for a while.

But alas, that's just my opinion since they don't lable them with letters anymore.

Ticket categories were not relative to an expansion or land, not should they be considered using such a methodology today. Otherwise, had the meet and greet complex been built, Under the Sea would be New Fantasyland's contextual E-Ticket.

 

[truecoat]

With respect to your opinion, and to the fact that any 'ticket' designation is necessarily a bit subjective since Disney doesn't use ticket books anymore, there should be some sort of unofficial, loose standard by which attractions are judged. It can't just be left to opinion or the fact a given attraction is just the grandest ride in its particular land or park. Were that the case, both It's Tough to be a Bug and Carousel of Progress, respectively, could arguably be classed as "E" tickets.

By any reasonable standard, Fantasyland has gained a solid "D" ticket attraction, but you are quite correct that it will draw "E" level crowds. It's the greatest new Disney attraction coming in the next few years...of course, it's also the only new Disney attraction coming in the next few years.

You're right, even the Little Mermaid draws E level crowds but is not considered an E ticket.

 

[alissafalco]

Yes. We're talking two years.

Is it that guy phillip? From what i hear he has special needs which would explain a lot.

 

[Captain Chaos]

It's not even as much information as saying Ben Affleck will be Batman. It would just be saying Ben Affleck will be in the Man of Steel sequel.

That is true... I mean, Disney/Lucas only announced the cast... They never did announce the characters each actor will be playing... Can only speculate at this point... The only ones we know for sure are the returning cast... Still, even if Disney/Lucas did say SO AND SO will be playing CERTAIN CHARACTER, that still isn't a spoiler... Can't see how the movie or story is ruined cause we know who Ben Affleck is playing in the Man of Steel sequel, unless, like I said, you hate Ben Affleck...

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

Of course, I haven't ridden the coaster yet. But between the detail put into it and the thrill, I'd rate it a D Ticket. Certainly a beautiful centerpiece for New Fantasyland.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Is it that guy phillip? From what i hear he has special needs which would explain a lot.

Nope.

 

[ChrisFL]

In other news, are we now in the middle of a 3 year gap with no new Disney attractions?

 

[asianway]

In other news, are we now in the middle of a 3 year gap with no new Disney attractions?

At WDW? Yes. You may get a meet n greet if you're lucky

 

[Cesar R M]

I agree. We need to praise them when they do something right. Mine Train looks really good. A solid family coaster with pretty cool AAs and a great addition to FL. It's visually stunning from the outside (check out the overhead shots from the helicopter on the main page). It's well done and has exceeded most people's expectations. It's too short to be a true e-ticket. That's not really a criticism, just a statement of opinion that's shared by most of us.

I think if you scroll through the various threads on the soft openings and ride through video you'll find plenty of positive posts.

I think the only problems discussed was:
a) they took so long to make it?
b) they used the smallest/shortest track version.

At WDW? Yes. You may get a meet n greet if you're lucky

or bathrooms..

 

[wdisney9000]

At WDW? Yes. You may get a meet n greet if you're lucky

Of course, and they will add more "wind down dining" spots as well. Im sure they consider these as attractions. The way people are drueling over the ability to hand over money so they can drink and eat while CM's are vacuuming is unreal. (im exaggerating so please dont wet your pants and flame me if your one of the lovers of this event)

 

[flynnibus]

In other news, are we now in the middle of a 3 year gap with no new Disney attractions?

Confused.. how can you say that with the mine coaster opening in weeks?

 

[GoofGoof]

I think the only problems discussed was:
a) they took so long to make it?
b) they used the smallest/shortest track version.

Fair enough. For me neither is an issue. They are both in the past.

#1 was a problem last November when I had to look at a construction walls and a half finished ride. It has no impact on my future enjoyment of this ride so doesn't factor into my opinion on the ride.

#2 is a philosophical difference of opinion. Just about every attraction made had alternate plans making it bigger or better. It's the way most projects work. I don't get too hung up on what could have been. I'm just basing my judgement on the ride itself. Besides, how do we know it was the shortest track version? They could have had 3 designs at some point and the one they went with was in the middle.

One could argue that they altered the plans at some point in a good way too to add the upgraded AAs. The original plans that called for a longer track length also called for uninspiring animated figures. So if they built that version with 2 indoor show scenes and a longer track length but had just basic animated figures in both scenes would the ride be an e-ticket? Would it be better than the version we got? My answer is no to both questions. Obviously a longer version with the upgraded AAs would be superior, but that plan was technically never on the table.

 

[SoupBone]

Certainly a beautiful centerpiece for New Fantasyland.

For the location and the age range it's going to attract, it really is a good attraction. My only gripe so far (and I haven't ridden it yet), is that it looks really short. For the time they took to build it, it's hard to imagine it taking as long as it did to build such a short ride.

 

[wdisney9000]

Of course, I haven't ridden the coaster yet. But between the detail put into it and the thrill, I'd rate it a D Ticket.

Deatail? Sure, the mine and cottage scenes have detail, the rest is just trees and plants. No sight gags, no props, no characters,..nothing. If its to be the centerpiece of New FL it should have more than just one awesome scene (the mine) and a secondary scene at the end which is cool, but nothing amazing. Lets face it, its a small cottage with the old AA's dancing through blurry windows with the witch outside. It could have been built in a few weeks. Im not the ride in any way, I just dont get why people (not you) keep referring to it as anything more than a cute coaster. I think the lack of anything in New FL being mind blowing had people starved for something to cling to as a "this is the big one"!

 

[wdisney9000]

The original plans that called for a longer track length also called for uninspiring animated figures. So if they built that version with 2 indoor show scenes and a longer track length but had just basic animated figures in both scenes would the ride be an e-ticket?

Why would longer track length require the AA's to be downgraded? Budget? Unwritten rule of coaster building? Just asking.

 

[CDavid]

In other news, are we now in the middle of a 3 year gap with no new Disney attractions?

Confused.. how can you say that with the mine coaster opening in weeks?

So, as of June 1, 2014 or so, will we be in the beginning of an approximate three year gap with no new Disney attractions?

Better?

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Dragon 2 is going to be a complete dog. There's no call for it. Maybe two years ago, but that franchise is dead now. Especially with the show airing on the Cartoon Network, you aren't going to get people to spend $60 to take the family to the movies for something they think they can see free at home.

Dreamworks is in a serious tailspin right now.

Sooooo!?! Dragons 2 is gonna tank!?!

We'll see.