Spirited News, Observations & Thoughts Tres

[Californian Elitist]

From a theme perspective? I guess, but between ToT, Aladdin, Muppets, Monsters Inc. and Animation I'd prefer to spend time in it over some others (even, *gasp* Tomorrowland ).

Ooooo, that's a tougie. Tomorrowland is another bad one.

 

[stlphil]

Exactly. Why not just keep it period-appropriate and call it Holywoodland, as it read years and years ago?

You have to wonder what the people at Disney are thinking, or not thinking.

Not sure if it is true or urban legend, but I read somewhere that Disney has to use Hollywood Land and not Hollywoodland due to a copyright issue over the name.

 

[WDW1974]

Is this a joke? April Fools was two months ago.

Nope. I really and truly enjoyed many aspects of DCA 1.0, especially the entertainment (loved Eureka, still can't fathom that Cynthia and George had the floats destroyed instead of stored out in Ontario) and dining.

It wasn't an awful park by any means. It just wasn't a typical Disney park and it showed in the corners cut and downright hacked off. It also had things cut all the way from design to opening day. Talk to Tim Delaney about his budgets for PP and the Sun Court and you'll be amazed that DCA turned out half as good as it did.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Not sure if it is true or urban legend, but I read somewhere that Disney has to use Hollywood Land and not Hollywoodland due to a copyright issue over the name.

I bet that issue could have been resolved. If they could get rights to use Grauman's I bet Hollywoodland wouldn't have been that big of a problem.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

Not sure if it is true or urban legend, but I read somewhere that Disney has to use Hollywood Land and not Hollywoodland due to a copyright issue over the name.

If I had to guess, the company that holds the Hollywoodland trademark wanted what Disney saw as too much money and they, SHOCKER, didn't want to pay.

 

[WDW1974]

No, that was Walt Disney Studios Paris upon opening in 2002 with a whopping 9 rides, shows and attractions (it'll have 17 next year).

If @WDW1974 liked that, he will win the prize for biggest Disney fan ever. An award I'd like to see given to him if only to see the blogger crew cry salty, rage-filled tears in objection.

I didn't see DSP until a few years after it had opened, BUT while it was ugly as anything it did have some quality attractions and has only gotten better.

Still, it won't ever be much more than it is now due to design choices. It opened as the only Disney park without a full serve dining location and without any water and almost no trees. Looks better now, but still is a perfect example of the building parks on the cheap method that hit Disney in the late 90s.

 

[stlphil]

If I had to guess, the company that holds the Hollywoodland trademark wanted what Disney saw as too much money and they, SHOCKER, didn't want to pay.

This sounds like a probable explanation.

Oh, and you're right I should have used the word "trademark" and not "copyright".

 

[The_Mesh_Hatter]

I always thought WDS was a park I could find some way to enjoy but when I finally visited, I left after 45 minutes without doing any rides. It was that bad. To be fair, the only ride I wanted to go on was Crushe's Coaster which was broken the entire time (I'm still bitter).

 

[Californian Elitist]

Nope. I really and truly enjoyed many aspects of DCA 1.0, especially the entertainment (loved Eureka, still can't fathom that Cynthia and George had the floats destroyed instead of stored out in Ontario) and dining.

It wasn't an awful park by any means. It just wasn't a typical Disney park and it showed in the corners cut and downright hacked off. It also had things cut all the way from design to opening day. Talk to Tim Delaney about his budgets for PP and the Sun Court and you'll be amazed that DCA turned out half as good as it did.

Wow. This is weird to hear. DCA 1.0 was pretty much hated by everyone, including me. The only things I liked were Soarin' Over California (thought it was the greatest thing ever...it's overrated now), Mulholland Madness, some kiddie rides, the big CALIFORNIA letters, the mural and the Golden Gate Bridge. Eureka was fine.

The Sun Court was terrible. Brings back terrible memories.

 

[stlphil]

Wow. This is weird to hear. DCA 1.0 was pretty much hated by everyone, including me. The only things I liked were Soarin' Over California (thought it was the greatest thing ever...it's overrated now), Mulholland Madness, some kiddie rides, the big CALIFORNIA letters, the mural and the Golden Gate Bridge. Eureka was fine.

The Sun Court was terrible. Brings back terrible memories.

On the plus side, the Animation building was, and is, great. And how can you not like free, fresh tortillas.

But as Spirit said, corners were obviously cut everywhere, and it wasn't anywhere near up to a Disney level of quality or theming. Paradoxically, it was a fun park but I hated it.

And the Sun Court WAS terrible, but not half as terrible as Superstar Limo.

 

[dadddio]

I blame partly the dining plan, which DLP doesn't have, and which inflates prices to give people a sense of value, and partly the insane pricing level of WDW in general.

Thats probably not the reason, given that DLP does indeed have a dining plan.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I am not in charge of D23.

That said, it would be kewl if I were and I'd do things differently.

But there will be more action on the P&R front at the Expo than there was two years ago.

They could announce the new bathrooms at the American Adventure Pavilion and it will be more substantial then what was done two years ago.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I still don't get the name "Hollywood Land"... Why not just Hollywood?

Hmmm.

Wasn't HollywoodLand the actual name of Hollywood at one point?

 

[RSoxNo1]

From a theme perspective? I guess, but between ToT, Aladdin, Muppets, Monsters Inc. and Animation I'd prefer to spend time in it over some others (even, *gasp* Tomorrowland ).

Thematically that area is a mess, they should rename it Hollywood Studios.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Wasn't HollywoodLand the actual name of Hollywood at one point?

No. Hollywood was its own community and briefly its own incorporated municipality before it was annexed by the City of Los Angeles. Hollywoodland was a housing development that started just over a decade after the annexation. The company that was behind the housing development put up the "Hollywood" sign as an advertisement, and it originally read "Hollywoodland." When the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce acquired the sign and renovated it, they removed "land" so that it reflected the entire community and not just one development.

 

[flynnibus]

I still don't get the name "Hollywood Land"... Why not just Hollywood?

Hmmm.

The original Hollywood development was Hollywood land

 

[JenniferS]

No. Hollywood was its own community and briefly its own incorporated municipality before it was annexed by the City of Los Angeles. Hollywoodland was a housing development that started just over a decade after the annexation. The company that was behind the housing development put up the "Hollywood" sign as an advertisement, and it originally read "Hollywoodland." When the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce acquired the sign and renovated it, they removed "land" so that it reflected the entire community and not just one development.

Thank you. I always liked History more than Accounting.

 

[WDW1974]

One of my fanboi minions reports that George K and his partner Andy were seen at the MK this weekend during Gay Days. They were not wearing red ... Or Disney name tags.

I wonder if they checked out the AAs in CoP that are really looking bad these days ...

 

[WDW1974]

I bet that issue could have been resolved. If they could get rights to use Grauman's I bet Hollywoodland wouldn't have been that big of a problem.

There was no issue with the Chinese Theater rights.That's Disney CM/fanboi/ Internet/urban myth.

 

[Calvin Coolidge]

One of my fanboi minions reports that George K and his partner Andy were seen at the MK this weekend during Gay Days. They were not wearing red ... Or Disney name tags.

I wonder if they checked out the AAs in CoP that are really looking bad these days ...

It can only be good that TDO execs are coming to the parks on weekends with their families, yes? Or am I reading this wrong?