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ScoutN

OV 104
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I've done 4 Jamborees in my life (which considering they only happen every 3-4 years is saying something) and there are always cases of dehydration and over-exertion. I am not attending this year, but considering ~40k people showing up, 65 wouldn't seem all that unreasonable to me. But, thanks for the heads up! <grin>


Heat exhaustion, regular illnesses, and even a medical issue can pop up at an event like this. Just it is nothing to hear about someone becoming ill at WDW. If you were at the 2001 then you probably heard about a family member of mine with a large medical issue there. No, it was not the lightning strike.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
I'm actually curious to see his political stance on issues given his background. He is like a democrat antagonist in his current role sans the Hollywood aspect. I'd be curious to see where on the spectrum his views lie. It will directly effect me since he's likely coming back home to NY for governor.

Heh, better than the options you seem to have now! <kidding...sortof>
 

Darth Sidious

Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
I disagree...they love their paycheck.

They know how to appease the shareholders and ignore what is best for the long term investment of the company that they work for.

While maybe that's true for some... It isn't all of them. Some people love their job and for them it isn't work anymore. When people like that find that sort of job, they tend to foster great results for their company while they strive to just continuously push for the best, ala Walt.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
Heat exhaustion, regular illnesses, and even a medical issue can pop up at an event like this. Just it is nothing to hear about someone becoming ill at WDW. If you were at the 2001 then you probably heard about a family member of mine with a large medical issue there. No, it was not the lightning strike.

I was not there in 2001, but I did hear about the lightning strike! I hope your family member was ok...

That Jamboree actually meant a lot to me, and I was a tad upset I didn't attend. I really was inspired by what what Joe Perkins went through. (For those not familiar, he is a fellow Eagle who has a condition where he can't walk, and so he was carted along the 5k run excursion by a fellow Eagle and his long time friend).

Again, another reason why I don't support the Council's decision to move it from a more moderate venue like AP Hill to the Summit.

But, as I said, I complained already about it, and I'm sure my messages were read, and promptly deleted...

I do have a bit of back story about why there was a decision to move it from AP Hill, and I won't post it publically here, as it is...um...political.
 

ScoutN

OV 104
Premium Member
Again, another reason why I don't support the Council's decision to move it from a more moderate venue like AP Hill to the Summit.

But, as I said, I complained already about it, and I'm sure my messages were read, and promptly deleted...

I do have a bit of back story about why there was a decision to move it from AP Hill, and I won't post it publically here, as it is...um...political.


I am very very sure that the story you have is the same that I have as to why it was moved.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
As ANOTHER Eagle and one of my parent's three Eagles I concur. The Jamboree at AP Hill was a fantastic event. Having attended one its setting and atmosphere was perfect. I will miss sorely the trading of patches around the complex and the offerings it had. This was an event to showcase the cultures each scout troop maintains from around the country. A showcase of various camping styles and ideas. Adventure Scouting is meant for high adventure, not general camping as the Jamboree was intended to be.

Several of the most dedicated Scouts that were in while I was were not in shape in the slightest bit. They are the ones who have stuck around as Assistant Scoutmasters to help others achieve the rank of Eagle that they covet so highly.

My troop would have events at local parks before doing long hikes to ensure physical capabilities before 75+ miler bike trips in a weekend or 50 miler hikes over a week. THAT is understandable but changing a showcase event... no. Just no.


As I stated before, it actually makes me quite upset.

I have no issue with high adventure (I did both Philmont and Seabase)...but the Jamboree is not about that. Nor should it be.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Well....yeah. That pretty much sums it up. At least that's the theory I'm working under.

And for what it's worth, I'm not bashing or making fun of the poor lady who died. I feel bad for her and her family, and whatnot.
Simple fact is, for some people of certain body sizes/shapes, rollercoaster restraints may not function properly, and in such cases I see nothing wrong with not allowing some people on a ride due to safety reasons. Same with the gentleman who flew out of a coaster due to having no legs. Not all rides are suitable for every guest, it's as simple as that.

You probably don't care either way, but my objection was not to your original theory which unfortunately may turn out to be true. I agree with your point that not all rides are for everyone. My objection earlier in the thread was to a few others saying things like this was hilarious or they almost pooed their pants laughing.
 

HMF

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Iger is a very smart businessman with no emotional attachment to the theme parks, especially WDW. He'd love to sell WDW and collect an annual royalty fee if he could. For TWDC, it makes good business sense.
Intelligence really does depend on what ones aptitudes and what they are passionate about. People can have a genius level knowledge of one thing but be completely clueless about other things. Iger came from the world of television that is his specialty, his forte, What he is good at/understands and that is largely why the Television stations are the company's strong point right now. He clearly has no idea or little interest in Theme Parks or a Film Studio especially with making Television Executive Rich Ross Studio Chairman a few years back or putting Finance guys Jay Rasulo and Tom Staggs in charge of theme parks.. Television and films are two very different industries, they have many similarities but they are by no means the same. You can't just get a guy who has been trained to do one thing and expect him to do something else just as competently.
 

GoofGoof

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Intelligence really does depend on what ones aptitudes and what they are passionate about. People can have a genius level knowledge of one thing but be completely clueless about other things. Iger came from the world of television that is his specialty, his forte, What he is good at/understands and that is largely why the Television stations are the company's strong point right now. He clearly has no idea or little interest in Theme Parks or a Film Studio especially with making Television Executive Rich Ross Studio Chairman a few years back. Television and films are two very different industries, they have many similarities but they are by no means the same. You can't just get a guy who has been trained to do one thing and expect him to do something else just as competently.

While I mostly agree with you, he did hit a home run with DCA 2.0. I know even a broken clock has the right time twice a day, but it did take stones to authorize that big of a cash outlay during a shaky economy. I'm no Iger fan, but I do give him some credit for at least that move. The studios...that's another story altogether.
 

Tim_4

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The Flash?!? Oh pulleeeze. We can't get a Wonder Woman movie, but some studio exec thinks The Flash is a winner? Next will be Aquaman. o_O
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wdwfan4ver

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While I mostly agree with you, he did hit a home run with DCA 2.0. I know even a broken clock has the right time twice a day, but it did take stones to authorize that big of a cash outlay during a shaky economy. I'm no Iger fan, but I do give him some credit for at least that move. The studios...that's another story altogether.
I don't think if you can give a lot of the blame blame Iger for the Studios and AK. I am saying that by taking a look at how bad Disneyland was when Michael Eisner was the CEO of Disney. The infamous Paul Pressler and Cynthia Harriss era at Disneyland happened when Eisner was CEO.

The fact is under Iger, TDO was doing things like Paul Pressler and Cynthia Harriss did aka finding ways to save money. What Iger should be blamed for is not having the people in charge of the Disney Parks and Resorts division keeping a closer eye on TDO.

The person made the decision not to have a Monsters Inc. Door coaster at DHS wasn't Bob Iger, but Meg Crofton and TDO because they thought Monster Inc. Door Coaster would cost too much money.
 

SirLink

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The Flash?!? Oh pulleeeze. We can't get a Wonder Woman movie, but some studio exec thinks The Flash is a winner? Next will be Aquaman. o_O

All they need to tell is a Live action version of Flashpoint anime/animated film and they have a winner. Thomas Wayne using guns is amazing.
 

luv

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I've been disappointed in the parks under Meg Crofton. Don't know if she is the nicest person on the planet or was sleeping with someone...how did she get (and keep!) that job??

Maybe she was held back by an inability to spend any money, but I'd like to see them shake things up a bit over there. The parks need improvement, not just additions.

I'd love a great Monster Door coaster, but if they're just going to build a wimpy one, maybe the money could be better spent on an excellent regular ride.
 

the.dreamfinder

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While I mostly agree with you, he did hit a home run with DCA 2.0. I know even a broken clock has the right time twice a day, but it did take stones to authorize that big of a cash outlay during a shaky economy. I'm no Iger fan, but I do give him some credit for at least that move. The studios...that's another story altogether.
They had no choice but to make a substantial investment in that park because the piecemeal approach was not bringing guests, and their money, in.
 

HMF

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While I mostly agree with you, he did hit a home run with DCA 2.0. I know even a broken clock has the right time twice a day, but it did take stones to authorize that big of a cash outlay during a shaky economy. I'm no Iger fan, but I do give him some credit for at least that move. The studios...that's another story altogether.
DCA 2.0 would have happened regardless who the CEO was. DCA was an epic disaster that more or less tied TWDC's hands. They really had no choice.
 
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