Spirited News, Observations & Thoughts Tres

[WDW1974]

I picked up the Sheraton for $125 this July, which is pretty ridiculous for a Category Six Starwood property (there are 7 categories). I'm hopeful this is indicative of light crowds since it seems to be an isolated set of dates...

We do have a favorable exchange right, but that is a phenomenal rate. Have heard great things about that hotel.

 

[Pixiedustmaker]

THIS!!!

Everybody knows that DHS is a half-day park. Don't see the economic pressure to put in Carsland, StarWarsland and Pixar stuff . . .

 

[Mister Boo]

Everybody knows that DHS is a half-day park. Don't see the economic pressure to put in Carsland, StarWarsland and Pixar stuff . . .

So it's no longer a half day park?

 

[ParentsOf4]

Great point. I was talking to someone very knowledgeable in the. Business earlier and he mentioned this metric and then compared Disney and UNI on a profit per ACRE model and well ...suddenly those 28,000 acres don't seem as limitless as Walt thought.

Eiger and Wells thought the same thing about WDW in 1984.

 

[Pixiedustmaker]

So it's no longer a half day park?

They need to expand into parking lot, or across World Drive just to add the explorable space, i.e. attractions/restaurants to make more than a half-day park, in my opinion.

 

[Pixiedustmaker]

Headlines?

You are a real comedian.

Just because you don't like Osbourne Lights, doesn't mean that a lot of people don't, its supposed to be quite popular and has certainly developed a following for many.

 

[WDW1974]

@pheneix's post was really rambling and out there . . . and totally made up as I don't think anybody believes that Burbank is looking at StarWars, Carsland, and Pixar rides for DHS! Sure, you can report a rumor that WDI/Burbank is "looking at" doing something, but even if something never happens it isn't not true.

Remember Lee said probably half a year ago that they were practically . . . oh so close to doing Carsland at DHS and it was all but a done deal.

I don't see the bulldozers.

So if four people on an internet forum say something is going to happen with regards to Disney and parks it will? Some of these people have a very negative view of Disney's parks, and no doubt they want DHS "fixed" pronto even if there weren't rumors implying this very thing.

While I love taking shots at @Lee as he really has a huge ego and needs to be cut down a bit, I just don't think you're the fanboi to do it. Disney announced Avatar was going to be part of its parks around the world in September of 2011 and I don't see the bulldozers either. I guess they were full of (blank)?

You really are a hoot, bless your heart.

 

[ParentsOf4]

Just because you don't like Osbourne Lights, doesn't mean that a lot of people don't, its supposed to be quite popular and has certainly developed a following for many.

From what I've read on these and other threads, I don't think anyone's suggesting the Osborne Festival of Dancing Lights isn't popular. To the contrary, it seems TWDC considers it one of DHS's few bright spots.

With that said, room's got to be made. Streets of America is smack dab in the middle of some prime real estate and sits idle for 10 months of the year. Something's gotta give.

One of the consistent highlights of my family's Thanksgiving trips for the last several years has been Osborne. I'm really not sure what I'm going to do for Thanksgiving once it's gone.

 

[flynnibus]

WDW's bottom-line is doing fine because its attendance is at record levels, guests are spending more, the economy is rebounding.

You left out the part how they are raising prices on average 7+% in the same periods.. your 'analysis' continues to suck up the massaged message as signs that everything is running like hotcakes.. and ignoring how those stats are assembled to paint the best picture possible. There is good reason Disney doesn't break down the details inside P&R... it's so they can spin messages like these and have people like you suck it up!

 

[WDW1974]

Is the ending of Ozzie and Harriet's Light Show (Let's see how far removed we can get this from the actual name) something that's been confirmed, or is it assumed because of where the construction is taking place?

Both. Recall that when LMA was being constructed one year they didn't present them (think it was 2004, but could have been '03). There simply is no place for them to go at the Studios once they start tearing out the entire backlot area. The other parks are no gos for obvious reasons and while DD makes some sense if they wanted to continue the tradition, that would present all sorts if logistical nightmares. And that's before you add in the redo there.

 

[flynnibus]

Osborne lights in DTD makes sense to me... what better reason to pull people into an area designed to SUCK YOUR MONEY AWAY.

 

[WDW1974]

I'm hearing MAJOR scaling back on SWW in '14 due to Georgie being out of the picture.

So, they killed the very popular Super Soap Weekends (before they murdered ABC Daytime) and then they killed the very popular ESPN Weekends.

Now, they want to scale back the most popular event they have? They sure know what they are doing, don't they?

 

[Pixiedustmaker]

While I love taking shots at @Lee as he really has a huge ego and needs to be cut down a bit, I just don't think you're the fanboi to do it. Disney announced Avatar was going to be part of its parks around the world in September of 2011 and I don't see the bulldozers either. I guess they were full of (blank)?

You really are a hoot, bless your heart.

Once again emotions are drug into the conversation. I bear no animosity towards @Lee , but for whatever reason, bad info being given to him, inadvertently fallacious interpretation of facts, perhaps even a bias that he is not aware of . . . in addition to the available information and wild rumors of Carsland construction beginning this year, I take everything with a grain of salt. More so . . . I reject these new rumors as false, irregardless of where the error in communication/interpretation occurred.

Avatar has taken a while to design, heck, some of the movies that it will based on apparently haven't been fleshed out . . . not so with Carsland. Blueprints ready to go, albeit with some minor modifications.

 

[WDW1974]

Well, that's interesting. That seems to be a bit backtracking on your earlier comments which indicated that the Muppets were gone if the current plans proceed.

So, do you think that it's still being decided where and how to do the expansion including whether or not the Muppets show goes?

No backtracking. Just got a bit of a clarification.

 

[flynnibus]

So, they killed the very popular Super Soap Weekends (before they murdered ABC Daytime) and then they killed the very popular ESPN Weekends.

Now, they want to scale back the most popular event they have? They sure know what they are doing, don't they?

Or interestingly enough.. look at this way. The only way they make the park popular is to bring in things the park DOESN'T have. Kind of fitting isn't it?

I was there once for ESPN weekend.. just by chance. Wasn't impressed. Just seemed like the stuff you see at every fan expo, etc.

What I'm amazed they haven't tapped into yet is a 'Disney Channel Weekend' - simply putting out all of their talent they have under ball n chain from the Disney Channel would bring people out in hordes.

 

[Pixiedustmaker]

From what I've read on these and other threads, I don't think anyone's suggesting the Osborne Festival of Dancing Lights isn't popular. To the contrary, it seems TWDC considers it one of DHS's few bright spots.

With that said, room's got to be made. Streets of America is smack dab in the middle of some prime real estate and sits idle for 10 months of the year. Something's gotta give.

One of the consistent highlights of my family's Thanksgiving trips for the last several years has been Osborne. I'm really not sure what I'm going to do for Thanksgiving once it's gone.

I doubt they'd re-do Osbourne with new LED tech in 2011 if they going to be removed/moved this year, or even three years from now.

 

[Taylor]

I doubt they'd re-do Osbourne with new LED tech in 2011 if they going to be removed/moved this year, or even three years from now.

I doubt it cost them that much to convert to LED lighting. Bet they've already made there money back

 

[WDW1974]

I can't imagine the facades for the Osborne Lights would be too costly to reproduce elsewhere (still suggesting behind RnRC). It's probably difficult to quantify how much revenue they generate, but they are certainly wildly popular. I believe they were the highest rated attraction at DHS across all age groups according to Touring Plans polls, not sure of @lentesta can verify.

As for other Pixar content, it makes too much sense for them to build the door coaster on both coasts simultaneously, but it doesn't seem like it's included in this plan.

No, it is absent from the current plans. I have no idea why as it was in other plans. And it would appear to be heading to DCA in very short order.

 

[doctornick]

No, it is absent from the current plans. I have no idea why as it was in other plans. And it would appear to be heading to DCA in very short order.

Is there any other Pixar stuff (besides Cars) in the current plans? What are they doing with all the space if they are tearing down so much of the park? Cars Land isn't that big.

I still don't understand how they could leave Soundstage 1 empty when they are (potentially) planning to remove perfectly viable attractions like the Muppets.

 

[HMF]

Both. Recall that when LMA was being constructed one year they didn't present them (think it was 2004, but could have been '03). There simply is no place for them to go at the Studios once they start tearing out the entire backlot area. The other parks are no gos for obvious reasons and while DD makes some sense if they wanted to continue the tradition, that would present all sorts if logistical nightmares. And that's before you add in the redo there.

It was 03. I remember seeing them in 04.