Captain Neo
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Actually some people from Disney do snoop around here. I remember I posted some insider stuff from another guy and he asked me to take it down a day later because it was brought up at a meeting.
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Actually some people from Disney do snoop around here. I remember I posted some insider stuff from another guy and he asked me to take it down a day later because it was brought up at a meeting.
Man, I sure hope there is never a day when you need the military and the products the defense contractors provide. Karma can be a .
Karma is quite overrated. She's not even as competent as most fanbois.
As to your post, all I'll say is I have grave concerns that Disney would have any business dealings with some of our defense contractors who profit off of the worst aspects of humanity. Exactly why would Disney be business with any of them? You think other entertainment companies are? Why is it that NGE seems to have an unlimited budget, you know like the military?
No one is asking the questions that need asking. And they aren't about when can I get my MAGIC Band.
If that's the case, then democracy is right behind it. You don't have one without the other.
PhotoDave219
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Yes and no.
Yes, in the sense that I DONT WORK FOR FREE.
No, in the sense that nobody gets away with telling me what I can or cannot photograph.
Neo, I like you. I really do, but you need to take a class on the art of sarcasm.
I have absolutely no doubt, none at all, that every word that I post here is read by my friends at TWDC. Can you imagine what an easy job that is?
PhotoDave219
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Son, those are fighting words.....
Goofyernmost
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Well, I guess that is all true, but, I don't look at Disney the same way I look at oxygen. I do not have to have Disney. If they cannot find a way for me to participate, if nothing else by charging extra for it, without having to sign on to the database, I still have the option to tell them where to place their Disney Park and go elsewhere. Why can no one see that? No it's not an ideal solution, personally, but it is very easy to do and is not terminal. That is where our control is and it is very effective. Disney can only do to us what we allow them to do. They do not control any part of my life other then, possibly, when I am at one of their parks. In my mind they don't even do that then.Sure, not getting FP+ most certainly is "punishment" since it means standing in line needlessly for potentially hours each day; hours that could have avoiding by signing up for My Disney Experience. Unless, of course, you prefer standing in line and experiencing fewer attractions each day.
The current FP system is free, equally accessible to all guests. FP+ changes that; you have to register into Disney's billion dollar data collection system.
Universal charges for its Express Pass, either directly or through onsite resort rooms. What Universal is doing is pure capitalism. Disney could have gone the same route, could have charged for FP+ yet they opted to make FP+ "free" as long as you register in their database.
Perhaps more than anything, that should give you an appreciation of exactly how much Disney values your information.
Quoting the Gordon Gekko character in the film Wall Street, “The most valuable commodity I know of is information.”
Obviously, Disney agrees which should be cause for concern amongst all of us.
And I don't need FP or FP+. I simply go to Universal where they stick to old fashioned capitalism.
GoofGoof
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nytimez
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This is mostly but not entirely true. There are still some very good and very smart people working in TV news... and most of them are being minimized and/or forced into early retirement and/or laid off.
I have been very interested in some of the hirings in Al Jazeera's soon-to-be-launched US operations, because some of these people are sharp and smart journalists (and many of them are cast-offs from the nets and cables).
Also, there are some excellent journalists on PBS Newshour.
Democracy has a very faint pulse right now if you ask me. folks such as yourself help keep it alive. As insignificant as this WDW issue may be to the vast majority, it is a major red flag that should be seen by many,... sadly it is not.
Did anyone ever read this or discuss it here?
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/18248551/finger-scanning-at-theme-parks?clienttype=printable
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/18248551/finger-scanning-at-theme-parks?clienttype=printable
Rodan75
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The truest words typed today here.
Funmeister
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You....have...no...MAGICAL....IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON DREAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ParentsOf4
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I do see that, which is why I've switched over to Universal!
Besides, consumers have every "right" to complain about a product and, if enough complain and the company is wise, then the company will listen and do something.
Do you think Disney is listening?
Sadly, Disney is run by a bunch of multi-million dollar executives who view theme parks as work and customers as data points.
Just imagine what you might have done with a few billion to invest at WDW and then consider that the folks in Burbank decided that an infrastructure upgrade and a huge data mining operation was the best way they could think of to spend that money.
Uni accomplished more spending $265 million on Harry Potter than Disney will ever accomplish spending billions on MyMagic+.
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More things to ponder as you ASSume that Disney is a warm, fuzzy and trusted BRAND that would never do anything evil or anything you should just take a step back and question. Let's go back a bit ... when Eric Haseltine was running R&D for Imagineering.
He left Disney in 2002 to join the NSA as Director of Research. According to a US News article, he referred to his role as, "You can think of me as the CTO of the intelligence community."
Then, you have Bran Ferren and Danny Hillis, former Imagineers and founders of Applied Minds, known for Metaweb Technologies and TouchTable among others. According to Ferren's biography he has served on the boards of the following:
National Security Agency Advisory Board, National Reconnaissance Office Technical Advisory Group, Defense Science Board, Army Science Board, Department of Homeland Security Technology Advisory Group, Chief of Naval Operations Executive Panel, FCC Technical Advisory Committee, Security and Exchange Commission Technical Advisory Group, Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Technical Advisory Group, US Strategic Command Advisory Board, and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency Advisory Group.
Now ... guys and gals, this is just the beginning. And, no, from UNI to Thinkwell, from CBS to Warner Bros, you won't find ANY entertainment/media company with such deep ties to firms that are not known for being warm, fuzzy and trusted.
How MAGICal, no?
He left Disney in 2002 to join the NSA as Director of Research. According to a US News article, he referred to his role as, "You can think of me as the CTO of the intelligence community."
Then, you have Bran Ferren and Danny Hillis, former Imagineers and founders of Applied Minds, known for Metaweb Technologies and TouchTable among others. According to Ferren's biography he has served on the boards of the following:
National Security Agency Advisory Board, National Reconnaissance Office Technical Advisory Group, Defense Science Board, Army Science Board, Department of Homeland Security Technology Advisory Group, Chief of Naval Operations Executive Panel, FCC Technical Advisory Committee, Security and Exchange Commission Technical Advisory Group, Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Technical Advisory Group, US Strategic Command Advisory Board, and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency Advisory Group.
Now ... guys and gals, this is just the beginning. And, no, from UNI to Thinkwell, from CBS to Warner Bros, you won't find ANY entertainment/media company with such deep ties to firms that are not known for being warm, fuzzy and trusted.
How MAGICal, no?
Cardinals314
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I haven't seen this article. I'm glad that there are some reporters in this country that are still able to ask the tough questions and try to thoroughly investigate stories that others refuse to write. It's really interesting to see many of the theme parks refuse to talk about the system. There should be more reporters like this guy, unfortunately they are hard to find
Beholder
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I have a feeling that there just may be more people like this guy who don't trust and therefore won't participate in these goofy schemes. With concerns over identity theft and stolen credit/debit card numbers, a large group of people will NOT like this "intrusion".
And perhaps that will give Iger and the rest a swift kick in the princess Crown Jewels to dislodge a bit of truth. Painfully.
asianway
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Who you calling son, Pal?
Everyone who posts on Magic has the rank of 7-11 clerk or lower. I know cuz I read it on the Twitter.
Nubs70
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Did you happen to come across my pm?
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