Spirited News & Observations II -- NGE/Baxter

flynnibus

flynnibus

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Yensid1974 said:
Not true at all. Although I would say a better description other than creative is a CEO with vision. You can have that in a leader of a company the size and scope of Disney and be very successful. It takes someone with courage to be able to do that. But to say it it not possible is incorrect, improbable yes, but not impossible.
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Yet all the people listed here as dreamers are not biz development people with a strategy - they are people who have been successful because of their creative talents. TWDC is a conglomerate - it's up there with companies like GE, News Corp, P&G, etc. You aren't steering a product at that level.. you're steering entire corporations and markets.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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WDW1974 said:
Back for a quickee ... but I noticed that TPFKaTD-MGMS is listed as being open from 9 a.m. until midnight on Saturday, May 4th. Been thinking that's strange as this isn't 20 years ago. A little birdie told me that there could be some sort of announcement that day, which doesn't make sense when you have a media event a week earlier and Star Wars Weekends, with their own press contingent, a few weeks later. ... Is this just a mistake or is there anything internally I should be asking my peeps about?
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May 4th is tied into star wars - across merchandising, community, etc.
 
articos

articos

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WDW1974 said:
Oh, one other thing that came up in 'research' this weekend. But Disney has a Mommy Blogger with a whole 173 followers (how many are fellow Mommy Bloggers and relatives? Not that it should even matter. ... We'll have 2-3 times as many views on this thread alone in the next hour to place this in some context and you don't see Disney giving me anything ... except for some heartburn and plenty of fodder for these forums!) who is a Canadian that lives in Mexico and Disney sends her to Aulani (as the official Mommy there) and on as many Adventures By Disney tours as it possibly can. They spend more on her in likely in a few months than the average Disney guest earns in a year. ... Again, to what end? Can we page Shel Holtz or Mark Ragan or Josh Hallett to the thread. Or maybe just Thomas.Smith@Disney.com?

They are so poorly informed and so off the mark in their strategies ...

One other thing, also heard that not only are they not thrilled with Wannabe Lou, but Disney hasn't been very happy with THE REAL LOU either of late. It seems like while he is great at WDW promotion, he is even better (this is shocking, I know) at SELF PROMOTION. They, particularly, don't like him using Disney to sell the Lou Mongello BRAND, which he just did on Bloomberg. ... I mean, a sleazeball like Lou ... who could have ever thought he'd be involved in self interest above all else, right? A lawyer ... right @WDWFigment? :)
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Unfortunately, this is pretty typical of a lot of resumes and middle management I run into these days. And the lack of ethics/candor and grubbing for any sort of monetary compensation possible - even if it involves two jobs that are a complete conflict - seems to run somewhat rampant. I don't know if ethics are not taught in business school any longer or if it's just people are so busy they don't care, but they definitely aren't checking the way they should or used to. But this also explains the lack of accountability and the general decline of the company in many ways as well. If you get lazy types in the ranks, you get lazy product.

With regards to the mommy blogger budget, as you call it, it's just a product of the right not looking into what the left is doing, I think. Social media was the new "it" thing that no one understood in the corporate ranks, so they did what every company does in that situation: they threw money at it. And a whole bunch of unqualified people all of a sudden noticed and labeled themselves "experts in social media", put up a blog and skimmed every possible site for "followers" and "hits"...and because there was a dearth of content out there, they were able to fake being successful by contributing articles to every fake and small-fry site on the internet...even so-call "name" sites like Huffington Post are essentially aggregators that do very little background, but still imbibe tons of content because they don't have to pay for it, and then the mommy bloggers get to say they're contributors to HuffPo...and the cycle continues. The access of the internet has done a lot of good, but also contributed to opening a lot of false positives as well. So...Disney doesn't know know what to do with social media, but they NEED to have a large presence, so they hire a few people who say they're experts...and maybe one is, but the others are faking til they make it...then they hire their friends, and before you know it...mommy blogger central. And once it's entrenched with a whole lot of mediocre people doing mediocre work with no care or knowledge of conflicts or ethics, it's not going away. Because they have metrics they've made up themselves, or hired friends to compile, they get all these numbers saying what they do is working, and they get free trips from Mexico. And the cycle continues. And because it's a budget that's separate from everything else, overseen by the marketing dept, the other depts don't realize they are being short changed. Etc...etc...etc...

I don't have a point, other than...typical.
 
the.dreamfinder

the.dreamfinder

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Genie of the Lamp said:
This one:
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/stea...-disney-historian-lPXmvXutQ7mRRpOkhy40TA.html
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lemme get this straight. Lou is a (Walt) Disney (World) expert??
So what does that make Jeff Kurtti, Amid Amidi, and John Canemaker??
Authors of the following books.
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We live in a very, very f@%^#$ up world.
 
Rodan75

Rodan75

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jt04 said:
Actually I think LucasArts was probably seen as redundant. I am sure the most talented or those with unique skills will find work with the mouse.

Cartoon Network owned rebroadcast rights to Clone Wars from my understanding and quite possibly was not willing to negotiate on those. Not sure. But I understand the mouse wanting to only produce SW content that is 100% owned by the WDC.
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Clone Wars was the victim of the XDification of all Disney action toons. They would rather starve the competition until they are ready to broadcast something new.
 
Cliff Racer

Cliff Racer

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HMF said:
Since acquiring Lucasfilm they have killed one of the most popular animated shows on television and a well-known gaming studio which has produced a major amount of content for the Star Wars Franchise. I would not consider that a wise use of a beloved brand they supposedly just spent a fortune on. It's incredibly foolish to buy such a cultural institution and then begin to dismantle the things that made it successful.
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To be fair its been at least five years since LucasArts actually made a good game (and thats being generous to consider Force Unleashed II a good game.) They've published good games recently but always farmed them out to another studio for the actual production. I hate to see LA go and hope that 1313 continues under the direction of BV Interactive or whatever its calling itself nowadays but lets face it, they've had some pretty big problems to overcome and hey, if Disney has its own studio to handle licensing thats basically all LA has done in recent years. To be more honest after the initial shock I am more angered by Disney's lack of motion on anything Indiana Jones related than I am about LucasArts.
 
HMF

HMF

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the.dreamfinder said:
lemme get this straight. Lou is a (Walt) Disney (World) expert??
So what does that make Jeff Kurtti, Amid Amidi, and John Canemaker??
Authors of the following books.
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We live in a very, very f@%^#$ up world.
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Kurtti has been known to make certain facts up to support certain corporate agendas (calling Marc Davis "The Story Man" despite the fact that he was adametely against rides having linear storylines) but I agree with the other two.
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

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The Empress Lilly said:
I'm sorry, but how does that add up?

If she is considered 'a contractor of the Times', if she was 'writing for the Times', then she didn't misrepresent herself in the first place. If however she isn't, then these issues - of her integrity as a NYT contractor and of her concurrent activity as PR for TWDC plus writing for the NYT - are by default non-existent.
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Theres a distinct difference. She was writing for The Lakeland Ledger, a newspaper owned by the NYT Regional Newspaper Group - not the NYT itself. For example, when you write for the Boston Globe, youre writing for them, not the NYT who happens to own the Globe.

Its straight up misrepresentation.
 
RunnerEd

RunnerEd

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Genie of the Lamp said:
So instead of spending this money on areas/units of this company that reek of improvements (WDW specifically), Disney decides to shell out the casholla for this Canadian (living in Mexico) mommy blogger and probaly others as well to take yearly frequent trips to wherever of their choosing be it with Aulani so they can show their face at events that basically accomplish nothing of significance for this company. Sickening. Once again proves that something is wrong with the system in place that is of social media to this company.

Everytime I watch Lou's in the box weekly podcast videos, I never feel he is promoting WDW (except for those top 5 videos). Moreso he just talks/discusses the whereabouts of what's going on at WDW. I always feel he is self promoting himself and his brand be it with their product line of WDWRADIO t-shirts (marketing them in front of WOD), audio guides (marketing them in front of HM), books (marketing them in front of ETR),etc. So that doesn't suprise me.

Edit: I also wonder if this puts his 2nd annual WDW Radio Cruise week on the fantasy with special guest Ridley Pearsons this november in jepordy? He does do a great job however promoting the Swan and Dolphin Food and Wine Classic that's been going on the last few years.
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Probably not. My Dad is semi-retired doing several consulting jobs when he wants to so that he can stay active. As a cruise buff, he and my step-mother will organize groups to go on specialty cruises together, 3 or 4 a year. They never bothered with DCL since there are no casinos on board. Each line is different but in general, every 12th paid fare will net 1 tour conductor fare free. They simply get 12 of their blue-haired couple friends to be a part of their group and they go free. They sold 24 for Alaska so the Mrs. and I just had to come up with airfare for a great cruise on Princess a couple of years ago. Ol' Lou probably does that with DCL since it is a fairly standard deal.
 

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