Spirited News & Observations II -- NGE/Baxter

FutureCEO

Well-Known Member
I didn't read all 172 pages. It honestly says a lot, not just Disney but for the majority of companies out there. Why do you think all movies today are sequels, based on books or just plain flat out terrible? Sure, there is an amazing original movie every now and then but it speaks to all products. Companies like to stick with what they know will work and not try for bigger and better. Society will get sick of it eventually. Maybe quicker than we get sick of the government. Losing a few customer is not going to bother a company. Losing a lot of customers will because money speaks.
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
OK, I miss over 100 posts and a few days and what happens? Many different directions and good old Frank starts with his 'Iger saved the Co' line of total and utter BS. I'll get to that later if possible ...

I'd like to talk about honesty and transparency for a bit (indulge me, I did start the thread). When last I left, I was stunned by the fact that Blondie not only lied on her linkedin profile about being employed by the New York Times, but actually was writing for a local newspaper for years while working in public relations for Disney. That is one line you just don't cross. Sorta like conducting a Passover Seder Service one day and an Easter Sunday service the next. You're either a journalist or a PR hack. Both is never an option.

This isn't like a confused fanboi who will 'try' a girl to go along with his diet of boyfriends.

But then came the other part. The part where she was lying and never worked for the NY Times, but sold content/stories to the tiny Lakeland Ledger. Now, days later, her profile still proudly hasn't been changed. If she's going down, dammit, she's going all the way. She did get a degree from Pitt in (I kid you not) ''creative nonfiction'' ... in the real world, I believe we call that lying (no, please don't give me a wiki education here).

As I looked at her profile, I began pulling up other Disney O-Town based staffers' CVs and couldn't help but notice inconsistencies and blatant lies in them, which sorta got this old Spirit to thinking.

These folks already have the jobs they lied their way into, yet they are cocky and arrogant to such a degree that they leave the lies up there for the world to see. Here I am ranting about insiginificant mentally disturbed bloggers and podcasters getting freebies on the Mouse because no one is vetting them (good luck with that new career, Laura) and I have come to the realization that no one in human resources is vetting the vetters. People are being hired for nice white collar positions, and promoted, based on lies and gross exaggerations (no, a weekend conference at the Harvard Business School does NOT make you a Harvard Business School grad no matter how good it looks on Linkedin!)And before anyone whines that these are private folks and if they lie it's none of our business, it's simply between them and their employer, I'd suggest that in an era where people use the Internet to craft great life lies for themselves that whatever anyone puts out for the world to see is absolutely 100% fair game for strangers like us to rip apart and allow them to face the consequences of their own bad behavior.

Regardless of what I know about Disney's current and future plans for social media, I don't see how Jenn can keep her job for this (no, I don't care that she's a Mommy and that she may well be a nice person ... there are plenty of Mommies who are nice people who would do her job and not lie to do so, harming both the reps of WDW and the NYT in the process).

When did materially misrepresenting your background not become grounds for immediate dismissal? Particularly, when it speaks directly to the job you were hired to do.

Are we supposed to just accept that everyone lies and move on? ... First, I don't believe everyone lies (at least about the important stuff) and these aren't little white lies or fibs.

Just something to think about and move at least part of this discussion back where it was a few days back.
 

maxairmike

Well-Known Member
Spirit, that is some pretty staggering, and damning info! I think I'll be keeping an ear to the ground to see what shakes out over in Celebration Place after that post...very interesting indeed.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
:confused:

Last thought.

Almost everyone comments that CEO's no longer look beyond the next quarter. Almost every decision Iger makes seems to be with the next decade, or two, or three in mind. I know most can't see that because they have been manipulated into NOT even being capable of seeing it. But it is true.

I am not saying he does not concern himself with the current situation but he is also very apparently concerned about the WDC long term.

Until next time......
Promises, promises
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Checked in with my father who was at the world last week...

He said wifi worked fine for him...
He reported they were trying to speed up entry at they gates by swiping cards with the ipods and asking questions... Skipping biometrics
Even my mother noted the decline in food this trip... Poor bread, etc
New fp enforcement didn't go over too well on them. They can accept.. But stood out to them
Even as pure customers... They don't do forums,etc the problems with ecvs and they buses was one other big peeves

They didn't complain about the crowds either... Even during Easter week
 

Yensid1974

Well-Known Member
Disney is too big for a 'creative' as CEO. It needs to be broken up for that to happen.

Not true at all. Although I would say a better description other than creative is a CEO with vision. You can have that in a leader of a company the size and scope of Disney and be very successful. It takes someone with courage to be able to do that. But to say it it not possible is incorrect, improbable yes, but not impossible.
 

FrankLapidus

Well-Known Member
Not true at all. Although I would say a better description other than creative is a CEO with vision. You can have that in a leader of a company the size and scope of Disney and be very successful. It takes someone with courage to be able to do that. But to say it it not possible is incorrect, improbable yes, but not impossible.

Absolutely. I don't think there's any need for the company to be broken up for that to happen, if it's "too big" for a creative CEO then return to the Walt/Roy and Eisner/Wells model that oversaw the best years in the history of the Walt Disney Company, a model where a creative and business-minded partnership is at the helm and able to concentrate on their specialist areas. The downturn the company has gone through has begun when one half of that partnership has been lost, first Walt and the Wells, and the model gets abandoned as a result and things begin to crumble. I don't think it will happen but to me it would make sense as an alternative if the company right now really is "too big" for a creative, visionary CEO.
 

WDW1974

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Original Poster
Back for a quickee ... but I noticed that TPFKaTD-MGMS is listed as being open from 9 a.m. until midnight on Saturday, May 4th. Been thinking that's strange as this isn't 20 years ago. A little birdie told me that there could be some sort of announcement that day, which doesn't make sense when you have a media event a week earlier and Star Wars Weekends, with their own press contingent, a few weeks later. ... Is this just a mistake or is there anything internally I should be asking my peeps about?
 

The Empress Lilly

Well-Known Member
Back for a quickee ... but I noticed that TPFKaTD-MGMS is listed as being open from 9 a.m. until midnight on Saturday, May 4th. Been thinking that's strange as this isn't 20 years ago. A little birdie told me that there could be some sort of announcement that day, which doesn't make sense when you have a media event a week earlier and Star Wars Weekends, with their own press contingent, a few weeks later. ... Is this just a mistake or is there anything internally I should be asking my peeps about?
May 4th? As any fan will tell you, that's Star Wars Day. 'May the Fourth be with you'. ('May', 'fourth', get it?)
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My money's on a DHS Star Wars somethingy!! Definately worth checking out!
 

FutureCEO

Well-Known Member
Correct me if I'm wrong...God knows I'm a business person as they come but don't you think companies are just a little too big now-a-days. This is from an August 2012 article and together, they owned like 95% of the market.

The 10 Biggest Media Companies

10. Washington Post Company
9. Gannett Co., Inc
8. Clear Channel
7. CBS
6. Liberty Media
5. Viacom
4. News Corporation
3. Time Warner
2. Comcast
1. Walt Disney
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
I guess when you do not have truth on your side you must resort to the lowest forms of sarcasm. Sad. You are better than this.
I guess that you have either been too busy listening to the sound of your own voice or have become so stuck on one topic so long that you haven't noticed that there has been an ongoing running joke between another poster and myself concerning who really is Bob Iger. I'm sorry that this got your undies in a knot, but if someone cannot occasionally break the tension then this will become a board of you and your arch enemy only.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Not true at all. Although I would say a better description other than creative is a CEO with vision. You can have that in a leader of a company the size and scope of Disney and be very successful. It takes someone with courage to be able to do that. But to say it it not possible is incorrect, improbable yes, but not impossible.

A CEO with vision does not have to be from the creative side. Someone from the business side can have vision. They just need to to be willing and able to delegate control to the creative division heads. Disney is into too many business lines to have one man have creative control over everything. A person who excels in the creative area may end up bogged down in the beaurocracy of the day to day running of the company when their true talent would be better served working on actual content instead of sitting in board meetings. Is John Lasseter's time better spent making Pixar movies or sitting in meetings to decide the prime time lineup for ABC, the best color guy for MNF on ESPN or the best location for a new hotel in China? I'd rather have him doing what he does best. The challenge is finding someone with the vision and strength to guide the company and make the tough decisions on how best to allocate the capital and resources of the company for both short term gain and long term growth.
 

The Empress Lilly

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I guess that you have either been too busy listening to the sound of your own voice or have become so stuck on one topic so long that you haven't noticed that there has been an ongoing running joke between another poster and myself concerning who really is Bob Iger. I'm sorry that this got your undies in a knot, but if someone cannot occasionally break the tension then this will become a board of you and your arch enemy only.
It would be so cool if you or that other guy - what's his name, that girlie-looking one - would turn out to really be Bob!

Even cooler if you took revenge by banning JT from any Disney park!

Cooler still if it turned out JT has never even entered a Disney Park in the first place!
 

George

Liker of Things
Premium Member
I guess that you have either been too busy listening to the sound of your own voice or have become so stuck on one topic so long that you haven't noticed that there has been an ongoing running joke between another poster and myself concerning who really is Bob Iger. I'm sorry that this got your undies in a knot, but if someone cannot occasionally break the tension then this will become a board of you and your arch enemy only.
You did such a good job on the Bob Iger joke, I wasn't even going to riff on it, just let it stand. I can't imagine why JT took it the way he did. He seems a bit testy that we all don't think Mr. Iger is the saving grace of family entertainment.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
Disney owns Star Wars. Disney owns Indiana Jones. Disney owns Marvel. Disney owns Pixar. I fail to see the problem. Unless they quit investing in WDW that is. Obviously that is not happening.

May the 4th be with you.
 

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