Yep. Disney is working hard to put folks at resorts they don't want to stay at.
No different than calling up a decade ago and the first two resorts they'd always offer were SS and OKW. They don't have as much trouble filling up Poly, WL and BW.
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Spirited News & Observations II -- NGE/Baxter
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Yep. Disney is working hard to put folks at resorts they don't want to stay at.
No different than calling up a decade ago and the first two resorts they'd always offer were SS and OKW. They don't have as much trouble filling up Poly, WL and BW.
Well, I did my (very small) part tonight. Voted against Iger and all BoD members. Voted against everything company wanted me to vote for and for everything company wanted me to vote against (the CEO/Prez issue).
I am looking forward to the entertainment tomorrow. ... Do we have any shareholders going?
steve2wdw
WDW Fan Since 1973
Did exactly the same....
Yeah. That sounds right. Probably about $350-425 million when all is included. Of course, the film still needs to do much more than that to break even and then get into the black. That tells you these films simply cost too much.
Oh, as to Ranger (which I am actually really looking forward to), even after Disney shut down production, costs wound up going well over $250 million. So, it's going to have to be blockbuster just to be profitable.
Newsworthy, perhaps, but thread worthy? I don't think so:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...t-card-fraud-jewelry-20130305,0,1040306.story
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...t-card-fraud-jewelry-20130305,0,1040306.story
the.dreamfinder
Well-Known Member
I could hardly imagine how our friend Michael is voting...
GiveMeTheMusic
Well-Known Member
From a studio perspective, the decision to go all tentpole (which Iger has repeatedly iterated) makes no sense whatsoever. So they've got Marvel (2 pictures/yr), Pixar (1 picture/yr), WDAS (1 picture/yr) and soon Lucasfilm (2 pictures/yr), but that leaves no room for the surprise hits; the movies that gross multiples of their budgets. Films like Sister Act would never get made by today's Disney, a film which grossed $270 million adjusted for inflation. The budget for the film couldn't have been much at all, which means a profit was easily turned. An all tentpole schedule doesn't allow for small movies with big profits. Big mistake, IMHO. Hopefully Horn can get the Studios on a more sensible production schedule that won't make or break the company all of the time.
I'm always (read: never) surprised by the stupid questions the average shareholder asks at the meeting.
Lee
Adventurer
A dollar says someone asks about Figment/Dreamfinder/Imagination.
And nobody will have the nerve to ask tough Avatar questions.
COProgressFan
Well-Known Member
Did the exact same thing with my shares. Honestly, after the debacle with Eisner at 2004's meeting, it's really a ballsy move to make to have one person as CEO and Chairman again. What about all the promises for better corporate governance?
COProgressFan
Well-Known Member
You mean like during the contentious 2004 meeting (I was there) where someone asked Eisner "What ever happened to the Fox and the Hound? Can you bring them back"?
You're kidding right? I honestly think some of those people were Eisner shills as part of that whole dog and pony show. (Perhaps not Evelyn Davis)
flynnibus
Premium Member
"How has spending on the MyMagic+ experience been allowed to overrun it's costs so significantly beyond the $800 million dollar number reported, and when exactly does the company expect to see a specific return on those dollars invested?"
"How much longer do you believe you can use escalating prices to offset stagnant customer growth?"
"Do you as the CEO of the organization, feel it is appropriate for the much needed Fantasyland Expansion to take over 5 years of construction to complete, while your competition is opening attractions in less than half that time?"
"Disney prides itself on being family entertainment, yet the trend of ever escalating price increases in food, lodging, and tickets continues to squeeze customers out of being able to afford a Disney vacation. How does Disney plan on addressing the reality it's pricing trends far exceed any growth in discretionary spending for it's guests and that such changes are leading to less visits to Disney theme parks?"
"Disney theme parks have in the past prided themselves on their presentation and emphasis on show quality. In the face of the wide availability of video and the internet, do you believe the WDW property is living up to that standard that established Disney as the leader in the theme park business?"
"If you believe Disney is living up to its self proclaimed standards of show quality and excellence in it's theme park division, would you be willing to make a visit to a WDW theme park, unannounced, and escorted by non-Disney personal to experience the theme parks as a true guest and not as a VIP group?"
those would be some of my opening salvos
"How much longer do you believe you can use escalating prices to offset stagnant customer growth?"
"Do you as the CEO of the organization, feel it is appropriate for the much needed Fantasyland Expansion to take over 5 years of construction to complete, while your competition is opening attractions in less than half that time?"
"Disney prides itself on being family entertainment, yet the trend of ever escalating price increases in food, lodging, and tickets continues to squeeze customers out of being able to afford a Disney vacation. How does Disney plan on addressing the reality it's pricing trends far exceed any growth in discretionary spending for it's guests and that such changes are leading to less visits to Disney theme parks?"
"Disney theme parks have in the past prided themselves on their presentation and emphasis on show quality. In the face of the wide availability of video and the internet, do you believe the WDW property is living up to that standard that established Disney as the leader in the theme park business?"
"If you believe Disney is living up to its self proclaimed standards of show quality and excellence in it's theme park division, would you be willing to make a visit to a WDW theme park, unannounced, and escorted by non-Disney personal to experience the theme parks as a true guest and not as a VIP group?"
those would be some of my opening salvos
DocMcHulk
Well-Known Member
In the flip of this, Disney tried to steal $700+ from my mother-in-laws credit card when she was there for the Princess half-marathon. He bill was something like $100 and the changed her bill multiple times up to $700. Then the managers tried to insist nothing was wrong. After several HOURS of fighting, they finally got it fixed. Oddly, room was charged $70... while she was sitting there talking to them!
I'm eagerly waiting for NextGen to roll out, nothing like this will ever happen...
Lee
Adventurer
And I'd be standing off the the side, all...those would be some of my opening salvos
tracyandalex
Well-Known Member
Well Disney finally priced us out, ok so perhaps only for that one weekend. Yesterday we booked our first stay at a non-Disney hotel. For 2 nights in a value resort I simply could not pay what Disney was asking. It was ridiculous and that was with a discount. So, we are staying near DTD in a nicer hotel with a larger room for way less. I expect we will still stay in Disney resorts depending on the price and other factors, but if we really like this hotel this may open up a whole new world (I had to do it!) for us!
I was hoping that some of those had actually been asked, you tease!"How has spending on the MyMagic+ experience been allowed to overrun it's costs so significantly beyond the $800 million dollar number reported, and when exactly does the company expect to see a specific return on those dollars invested?"
"How much longer do you believe you can use escalating prices to offset stagnant customer growth?"
"Do you as the CEO of the organization, feel it is appropriate for the much needed Fantasyland Expansion to take over 5 years of construction to complete, while your competition is opening attractions in less than half that time?"
"Disney prides itself on being family entertainment, yet the trend of ever escalating price increases in food, lodging, and tickets continues to squeeze customers out of being able to afford a Disney vacation. How does Disney plan on addressing the reality it's pricing trends far exceed any growth in discretionary spending for it's guests and that such changes are leading to less visits to Disney theme parks?"
"Disney theme parks have in the past prided themselves on their presentation and emphasis on show quality. In the face of the wide availability of video and the internet, do you believe the WDW property is living up to that standard that established Disney as the leader in the theme park business?"
"If you believe Disney is living up to its self proclaimed standards of show quality and excellence in it's theme park division, would you be willing to make a visit to a WDW theme park, unannounced, and escorted by non-Disney personal to experience the theme parks as a true guest and not as a VIP group?"
those would be some of my opening salvos
I'm not kidding at all. I'm more referring to what @Lee said where someone will wait in line for hours to ask about Figment, or more pin trading additions, etc. Unfortunately, I am not familiar with the 04 meeting, but would love to read a transcript of it if you have one.