Practical Pig
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I thought that was a weakness in the ride system patent as well. That bench on the end of the arm needs articulation.
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Spider-Man Ride Patent for DLR
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I thought that was a weakness in the ride system patent as well. That bench on the end of the arm needs articulation.
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Deleted member 107043
They have completely tossed out the original intent and gone with the easiest gate click bait to drive up attendance. Maybe the backstory for this new Future World attraction will be a self-referential farce like Mission Breakout in Hollywood Land, but given that it's Marvel I'm stumped at how this aligns with EPCOT's utopia of free enterprise, science, and technology. And to think that Eisner almost got a west coast version of EPCOT built in Anaheim. Can you imagine how that would have looked by now if it had been greenlit instead of DCA?
Practical Pig
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I've got to agree that the "ride" is not just the ride system, but the sum total of it's parts. With Disney's themed rides, the storytelling is as much or more of a part of the experience as the motion.
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Deleted member 107043
Yes. Assuming it's the same boats, running the same course, in the same building, then it's the same ride to me. In this case, like Mission Breakout, it would be the same ride with a different cast and storyline.
Agreed with everything except DCA needs saving. It could use a couple more signature attractions sure. I just think saving is too strong a word.
Wow. Ok let's just agree to disagree. Lol
I know you don't Believe that by the way. There is no way you can be a huge fan of themed entertainment and believe that.
D.Silentu
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Fair enough, I just feel that the park is still working through an identity crisis, and I couldn't resist the superhero word play.
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If they replaced the Mad Tea Party cups with clamshells, switched out the decorations, put on a Little Mermaid soundtrack, left all the primary infrastructure intact, and named it Sebastian's Under the Sea Party, wouldn't it still be the same ride? It wouldn't be the same story, but it would be the same ride.
Maybe what I mean is that it would be the same experience? I dunno lol. I just don't see that big of a difference between ToT and MB I guess.
Practical Pig
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Nope.
I mean, yes, the motion experience -- the way we "ride" would be the same. But the received ride experience would be very different. I think this is coming down to how we interpret the word.
Identity crisis for sure. I liked the direction they were going after the 2012 additions/ updates. Now it's just becoming an aqusituon dumping ground.
Lol. Well, with a flat ride there is a lot less theming to strip but I would still classify it as a different ride. If I'm not hearing the mad tea party music it's already a very different experience. In fact one night a few months ago I happened to ride when RDTC was starting and they just had the ride running with no music. It was very odd.
Nope.
I mean, yes, the motion experience -- the way we "ride" would be the same. But the received ride experience would be very different. I think this is coming down to how we interpret the word.
Let's just split "attraction" into ride experience and ride mechanism/ ride system. That should Simplify things. But I get the sense that @Dr. Hans Reinhardt is speaking to the overall experience as well, not just the ride system.
Practical Pig
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No doubt. Hans is always a thoughtful, well-rounded poster. But it seems like it's just a noun vs. verb kind of thing going on here, and we are mere millimeters away from all agreeing.
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This is basically it. To me ToT and MB are the same in this regard. In fact one could be forgiven if they mistakenly called Mission Breakout Tower of Terror given that it's the same high-rise structure, standing in the same place, with the same scary elevator drop. This is radically different from what WDI is doing in Florida with GoTG. Other than the building there will be nothing (apparently) that anyone can point to and reference Universe of Energy.
Curious Constance
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Your use of the word click bait to describe the directions the parks are going just made me realize fully why every decision they make nowadays makes me feel like I need a shower.They have completely tossed out the original intent and gone with the easiest gate click bait to drive up attendance. Maybe the backstory for this new Future World attraction will be a self-referential farce like Mission Breakout in Hollywood Land, but given that it's Marvel I'm stumped at how this aligns with EPCOT's utopia of free enterprise, science, and technology. And to think that Eisner almost got a west coast version of EPCOT built in Anaheim. Can you imagine how that would have looked by now if it had been greenlit instead of DCA?
It doesn't feel like we're being delivered to another imaginary world, like Marvel Land or Star Wars Land or whatever. It feels more like we're in Disney Facebook or Disney You Tube. Come click on the new GOTG ride, and then share our new Spider-Man attraction! Like our new Star Wars attraction and be entered into a drawing for a new limited edition t-shirt! Don't forget to comment about how you love our new Cozy Cone Cars Smoothies!
It all feels so in your face and commercial that it's gross. It's almost like it's satire. Pixar Pier? Really? Dash's Coaster? You're joking right? It doesn't matter if something has 50 plus years of American history behind it, they're willing to pillage it for a quick buck.
I realize it's all good business to maximize profits. And the CEO can't see or doesn't care to look any further than his reign on the throne.
I hope the whole thing blows up in their face and every single IP ride bombs. For me, it's not only making me not want to visit the parks as much, but it's making me start to dislike the IP itself. I could care less about the new Star Wars movie because it's all so corporate and Hollywood so who cares?
Maybe I'd better go to sleep now lol
George Lucas on a Bench
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Is it suddenly trendy to criticize Disney's decisions around here? When I used to do that, I would get criticized.
brb1006
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dweezil78
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I really wish they'd leave Spidey alone. The IOA attraction is going to be almost impossible to beat. 18 years later, it's still one of the best theme park attractions around. A swinging inverted coaster track doesn't give me a whole lot of faith that this will top the original. This ride system looks like Peter Pan meets the 7 Dwarfs Mine Train.
Spider-Ride, Spider-Ride,
Get on board for a Spider-glide!
Spins a web, any size,
Projection-mapped, no big surprise
Look Out!
Here comes the Spider-Ride.
Get on board for a Spider-glide!
Spins a web, any size,
Projection-mapped, no big surprise
Look Out!
Here comes the Spider-Ride.