Spider-Man Ride Patent for DLR

BrianLo

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Looks like a cool concept, different enough to justify attempting when such a definitive ride for Spiderman already exists.

I also was never under the impression it was literally replacing ITTBAB (i.e. using its show building)... I thought the whole thing would be knocked down to create the room.
 

Practical Pig

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I have insider information that this attraction will be themed to Spider-Man and will replace Space Mountain.

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST

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mickEblu

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Looks like a cool concept, different enough to justify attempting when such a definitive ride for Spiderman already exists.

I also was never under the impression it was literally replacing ITTBAB (i.e. using its show building)... I thought the whole thing would be knocked down to create the room.

Same here. I didn't choose my words wisely. Originally I thought if something like an Antman ride was going there it would be worth at least keeping parts of the queue.
 
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Now why do you have to scare us like that? After the Tower conversion to Gaurdians, anything is possible.

No kidding. The building that once housed Universe of Energy at EPCOT is rumored to become a queue for a 10-story Guardians themed roller coaster to be built adjacent. This will be the first coaster at EPCOT and EPCOT will be the last Disney park to have one. When I read the news it hit me that the spirit of Disney theme parks that I once knew is officially dead and buried.

Oh well, that's life.
 
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Antaundra

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No kidding. The building that once housed Universe of Energy at EPCOT is rumored to become a queue for a 10-story Guardians themed roller coaster to be built adjacent. This will be the first coaster at EPCOT and EPCOT will be the last Disney park to have one. When I read the news it hit me that the spirit of Disney theme parks that I once knew is officially dead and buried.

Oh well, that's life.
For me the spirit of Disney theme parks that I once knew died the last ten years of Michale Eisner's tenure. All this new construction is bringing the parks back to life. They're coming back to life as something new and different. I prefer new and different to dead and decrepit.
 
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For me the spirit of Disney theme parks that I once knew died the last ten years of Michale Eisner's tenure. All this new construction is bringing the parks back to life. They're coming back to life as something new and different. I prefer new and different to dead and decrepit.

For sure, but it's all mostly uncultured. Back in the day, as I'm sure you're aware, there was a loftier purpose to EPCOT Center than anything we've seen Disney Parks produce recently. Even Eisner patronized contemporary architects, artists, and designers. I don't care that Disney is building a Marvel coaster in what was once supposed to be a showcase of future technology, but wow, Disney Parks & Resorts has really lowered the bar dramatically from what it once tried to be.
 
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mickEblu

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For sure, but it's all mostly uncultured. Back in the day, as I'm sure you're aware, there was a loftier purpose to EPCOT Center than anything we've seen Disney Parks produce recently. Even Eisner attempted to patronize contemporary architects, artists, and designers. I don't care that Disney is building a Marvel coaster in what was once supposed to be a showcase of future technology, but wow, Disney Parks & Resorts has really lowered the bar dramatically from what it once tried to be.

Agreed. Just curious why you didn't feel this way with the TOT change?
 
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Agreed. Just curious why you didn't feel this way with the TOT change?

Good question. Maybe because it was cheesy comic book IP replacing cheesy vintage TV IP? To me it was kind of a wash. My biggest issue was it didn't fit the theme, but Disney has always given itself plenty of leeway when telling a story.

All of that is very different from Disney replacing an attraction that was intended to be a sort of ride through documentary on fossil fuels with Guardians of The Galaxy, don't you think? That says a lot about P&Rs priorities today compared to when I first became a fan.
 
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mickEblu

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Good question. Maybe because it was cheesy comic book IP replacing cheesy vintage TV IP? To me it was kind of a wash. My biggest issue was it didn't fit the theme, but Disney has always given itself plenty of leeway when telling a story.

All of that is very different from Disney replacing an attraction that is sort of a ride through documentary on fossil fuel with Guardians of The Galaxy, don't you think?

Oh i see, that's where we differ. I find the Twilight Zone to be a timeless piece of Americana. But to be honest it wasn't the somewhat cheesy storyline that carried the attraction. It was the powerful branding that Twilight Zone/ "Rod Serling" bring coupled with that old Hollywood theming. It was a really nice pairing IMO.

Yeah not exactly the same as what's going on with Epcot only because EPCOT was going way out there with the edutainment thing. But it's the same in the sense of theme being downgraded.
 
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I find the Twilight Zone to be a timeless piece of Americana.

You can say about Marvel too. :) It could be argued that GoTG is more resilient on the strength of Marvel (the TZ show predates the GoTG comic by only a decade). Also GoTG is a Disney produced film, and Twilight Zone is not, thus I would give it preference over TZ, but whatever. Finally it's basically still the same ride, which is not the case with Universe of Energy, which allegedly will house the queue for the new roller coaster building nearby.

Walt Disney's EPCOT was not rooted in fantasy the way that DCA and DL are. That's why, at least for me, a comic book based roller coaster in that park is as strange as putting a Slinky Dog Coaster in New Orleans Square.

But it's the same in the sense of theme being downgraded.

I disagree, but that's ok.
 

Practical Pig

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I don't care that Disney is building a Marvel coaster in what was once supposed to be a showcase of future technology, but wow, Disney Parks & Resorts has really lowered the bar dramatically from what it once tried to be.

Yep. I understand why the modern corporation has gone the way they have, and wouldn't expect anything else, unfortunately. But the contrast of the modern cynicism compared to the ideals of the past is a hard pill to swallow.
 

mickEblu

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You can say about Marvel too. :) It could be argued that GoTG is more resilient on the strength of Marvel (the TZ show predates the GoTG comic by only a decade). Also GoTG is a Disney produced film, and Twilight Zone is not, thus I would give it preference over TZ, but whatever. Finally it's basically still the same ride, which is not the case with Universe of Energy, which allegedly will house the queue for the new roller coaster building nearby.

Walt Disney's EPCOT was not rooted in fantasy the way that DCA and DL are. That's why, at least for me, a comic book based roller coaster in that park is as strange as putting a Slinky Dog Coaster in New Orleans Square.



I disagree, but that's ok.


It's definitely more of a departure with UOE But it's still a departure with TOT.

I don't think you can say it's the same ride. Same ride system doesn't = same ride. If they gutted Peter Pan and replaced it with Aladdin sets and figures would you say it's the same ride?
 

D.Silentu

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Buying into the assumption that this is a Spiderman ride for DCA's Marvel expansion, I have to give them a round of applause. I've mentioned before that the sister park is wanting something that will allow it to stand on its own. This looks like it could very well be that project! It has a ride system that is one of a kind, tailored to its subject matter. It will be based on IP, but one that remains strong in pop culture, even when it doesn't have a movie in theaters. I think DCA still needs a bit of saving and Spiderman may be the hero for the job.
 
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I don't think you can say it's the same ride.

Compared to what's supposedly happening with UoE? Absolutely.

The fact that many people here consider Mission Breakout to be a "cheap" overlay of ToT is evidence that it's widely considered to be the same ride, just a different theme/storyline.
 

mickEblu

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Yep. I understand why the modern corporation has gone the way they have, and wouldn't expect anything else, unfortunately. But the contrast of the modern cynicism compared to the ideals of the past is a hard pill to swallow.

True.

The current direction is understandable. Who the heck in 2017 has an attention span for a 45 minute ride? Especially APs who visit the parks multiple times per year. With that said they could have tried a little harder and created something that fit more with the original EPCOTs vision and still be entertaining.
 

mickEblu

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Compared to what's supposedly happening with UoE? Absolutely.

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They key words are compared to Epcot. I already ceded to you there. Of course there are varying degrees to these changes. With that said, GOTG is NOT the same ride as TOT. You didn't answer my Q about Pan. Here's a better one - if they changed all the POTC sets to Thor but your still riding a boat and splashing a couple times would that be the same ride?
 

lazyboy97o

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Buying into the assumption that this is a Spiderman ride for DCA's Marvel expansion, I have to give them a round of applause. I've mentioned before that the sister park is wanting something that will allow it to stand on its own. This looks like it could very well be that project! It has a ride system that is one of a kind, tailored to its subject matter. It will be based on IP, but one that remains strong in pop culture, even when it doesn't have a movie in theaters. I think DCA still needs a bit of saving and Spiderman may be the hero for the job.
Spider-Man does all sorts of twisting and moving while he is swinging around. He doesn’t face forward all the time while moving side-to-side.
 

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