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Spaceship Earth Decent Upgrades?
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EPCOT Explorer
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hpyhnt 1000
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Ah, thank you! I actually wouldn't mind if they made that effect permanent. I kinda like it there; to me, it makes it seem more like we're being "teleportated" or "hyperspaced" back to the past as oppossed to just "drifting" into it.
EPCOT Explorer
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Isn't that what that Blue and Orange Gate is?
hpyhnt 1000
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Ohhhh, okay. :animwink: Its just that, in the video, it was fairly clear to me that the lights were on the ascent, not at the matrix tunnel. :shrug:
And nice diagram to whoever created it. :wave:
Am I the only one who thinks it's strange that Bob Zalk actually thinks the new ending is inspiring?:veryconfu
hpyhnt 1000
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In a sense. I was thinking that the blue lights help reinforce that effect by making it seem like you're moving at a great speed away into the past, with the portal representing the point where you slow down and begin you're "slow moving trip through time." :lookaroun :lol:
And while we're talking about that portal, why isn't there one at the end of the ride to transition you from the future back to the present? (Or is that yet to come?)
EPCOT Explorer
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That would be Expo.:wave:
No, there is no end gate...In the old SSE, you would hear a woosh at least but this one ends abruptly.
jedimaster1227
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I was under the assumption that it might "compliment" them.
Or work in accordance with the "annoying voices and horrible images coming from the LCD screens..." In other words, building the "future scene" around you while you are seeing where you fit into the overall picture.
The future-selection software received a nice upgrade over the last few weeks allowing it to deviate from the standard opening questions that had been asked so far. Now (if everything is working properly), the questions should be randomized, making the future endings unique each time.
EPCOT.nut
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Figment571
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Call me stubborn but I shall not be content until there is a true inspiring, vision, challenge, or moving emotional movement in the descent. There can be all the little lights they can string but it will not change the message delivered at the end. It leaves a bitter and disappointing taste in my mouth.
Amen. The other day my touch screen crashed and rebooted Windows, and I found it a more fitting ending to Spaceship Earth than the crap they in there now.
Expo_Seeker40
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I think it's safe to rule out tomorrow's child inside the ride for now ( but that doesn't mean it won't return somewhere else..just look to the sky )
If...if they ever went ahead and did a tomorrow's child ending, not saying now,but saying sometime down the road, the only way to have people actually looking at the triangles would be to have us ask all our questions heading up in the ascent tunnel i.e. we choose our language when we board our vehicle, and rather than wait to select where we are from, we immedietely select where we are from, than have an intro from SSE control go past the safety video screens, answer our questions, have our picture taken and then our screen turns off.
I timed this.....our video presentation would be able to fit in this way....as soon as we exit the worm hole of infinite stars, our screens turn on, showing our video, this would last in the stars section of the former gas clouds as well as the current black curtains of pepper's ghost. By the time we get to the first set of blue triangles, where they meet together at former glitter city, our video would basically be done, and turn off.
Leaving us to sit back and watch a fitting ending.
However for now, it doesn't seem that way. That doesn't mean we won't look at the triangles. Adam may be hinting to upgrades that only let you select and look at certain things on your screen, with a finale of music, multiple images, and data that really has the Siemens grandslam message they want to leave you with.
I just hope there is more to see than just blue triangles against black curtains, more blinky lights, and thingamabobs.
)If...if they ever went ahead and did a tomorrow's child ending, not saying now,but saying sometime down the road, the only way to have people actually looking at the triangles would be to have us ask all our questions heading up in the ascent tunnel i.e. we choose our language when we board our vehicle, and rather than wait to select where we are from, we immedietely select where we are from, than have an intro from SSE control go past the safety video screens, answer our questions, have our picture taken and then our screen turns off.
I timed this.....our video presentation would be able to fit in this way....as soon as we exit the worm hole of infinite stars, our screens turn on, showing our video, this would last in the stars section of the former gas clouds as well as the current black curtains of pepper's ghost. By the time we get to the first set of blue triangles, where they meet together at former glitter city, our video would basically be done, and turn off.
Leaving us to sit back and watch a fitting ending.
However for now, it doesn't seem that way. That doesn't mean we won't look at the triangles. Adam may be hinting to upgrades that only let you select and look at certain things on your screen, with a finale of music, multiple images, and data that really has the Siemens grandslam message they want to leave you with.
I just hope there is more to see than just blue triangles against black curtains, more blinky lights, and thingamabobs.
EPCOT Explorer
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Oooooh,That's a new one.Nice!
Even if it was,and we had TC playing to some images on those triangles,it would ROCK.I think it's safe to rule out tomorrow's child inside the ride for now ( but that doesn't mean it won't return somewhere else..just look to the sky
If...if they ever went ahead and did a tomorrow's child ending, not saying now,but saying sometime down the road, the only way to have people actually looking at the triangles would be to have us ask all our questions heading up in the ascent tunnel i.e. we choose our language when we board our vehicle, and rather than wait to select where we are from, we immedietely select where we are from, than have an intro from SSE control go past the safety video screens, answer our questions, have our picture taken and then our screen turns off.
I timed this.....our video presentation would be able to fit in this way....as soon as we exit the worm hole of infinite stars, our screens turn on, showing our video, this would last in the stars section of the former gas clouds as well as the current black curtains of pepper's ghost. By the time we get to the first set of blue triangles, where they meet together at former glitter city, our video would basically be done, and turn off.
Leaving us to sit back and watch a fitting ending.
However for now, it doesn't seem that way. That doesn't mean we won't look at the triangles. Adam may be hinting to upgrades that only let you select and look at certain things on your screen, with a finale of music, multiple images, and data that really has the Siemens grandslam message they want to leave you with.
I just hope there is more to see than just blue triangles against black curtains, more blinky lights, and thingamabobs.
hpyhnt 1000
Well-Known Member
I think it's safe to rule out tomorrow's child inside the ride for now ( but that doesn't mean it won't return somewhere else..just look to the sky
If...if they ever went ahead and did a tomorrow's child ending, not saying now,but saying sometime down the road, the only way to have people actually looking at the triangles would be to have us ask all our questions heading up in the ascent tunnel i.e. we choose our language when we board our vehicle, and rather than wait to select where we are from, we immedietely select where we are from, than have an intro from SSE control go past the safety video screens, answer our questions, have our picture taken and then our screen turns off.
I timed this.....our video presentation would be able to fit in this way....as soon as we exit the worm hole of infinite stars, our screens turn on, showing our video, this would last in the stars section of the former gas clouds as well as the current black curtains of pepper's ghost. By the time we get to the first set of blue triangles, where they meet together at former glitter city, our video would basically be done, and turn off.
Leaving us to sit back and watch a fitting ending.
However for now, it doesn't seem that way. That doesn't mean we won't look at the triangles. Adam may be hinting to upgrades that only let you select and look at certain things on your screen, with a finale of music, multiple images, and data that really has the Siemens grandslam message they want to leave you with.
I just hope there is more to see than just blue triangles against black curtains, more blinky lights, and thingamabobs.
Agreed. Triangles and blue lights are nice, but they mean nothing unless there is some kind of meaning behind them. (If trianlges and lights were all that we needed, we'd be happy with the current descent.)
If I may, may I inject my own bit of imagineering into this?
Expo (BTW-great diagram), what you stated above could work as far as the questions and where the future video plays. If there's one thing I'd like to see, its maybe have the future video end a little bit sooner, like just after the beginning of where the pepper's ghosts used to be. After that, here's my vision:- After the video ends, our images would appear on the triangles just like they were incorporated in the future video. Where SSE '86 had images of children on the screens, SSE '07 would have our images on the screens.
- As we make the u-turn past the old future city (and where the current cluster of trianlges is now), our images would follow us. In front of and around the converging triangles, a new future city would be situated. As we go past the new future city, or images would leap to the cluster trianlges and follow those triangles down into the city. This would symbolize how we will play a role in the shaping of the future.
- As we turn to make our final descent, we would see the faces of other passengers follow ours into the city, symbolizing that we have to create a future that is favorable for everyone, not just ourselves.
- As we proceed down the final descent tunnel, we'd be surrounded by lights and fiber optic effects, mixed in with more triangles depicting images and ideas of the future. (If Disney wanted to be really clever, the trianlges could showcase ideas that are related to other FW pavilions; i.e.- farming innovations (The Land), wind turbines, solar (UoE), underwater colonies (The Seas), space colonies on distant planets (Mission: Space))
- As far as music and narration, the narration would reflect how we must build a future for everyone, and join together to solve our problems "to create a better world" for the next generation. The music would remain the same up until the future city. After that, a newly imagined Tomorrow's Child would be heard all the way into the unload area.
Exactly. When I think of the ways the new SSE has been "dumbed down," its the meaning, message, and challenge that was so present in versions '94, '86, and '82 that is missing in '07. That definitely must come back.
EPCOT Explorer
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Agreed. Triangles and blue lights are nice, but they mean nothing unless there is some kind of meaning behind them. (If trianlges and lights were all that we needed, we'd be happy with the current descent.)
If I may, may I inject my own bit of imagineering into this?
(Sorry if what I said above sounds a bit repetative, since I know I've repeated that idea a few times, but I think it would be nice, and it works around whats already in place)
- After the video ends, our images would appear on the triangles just like they were incorporated in the future video. Where SSE '86 had images of children on the screens, SSE '07 would have our images on the screens.
- As we make the u-turn past the old future city (and where the current cluster of trianlges is now), our images would follow us. In front of and around the converging triangles, a new future city would be situated. As we go past the new future city, or images would leap to the cluster trianlges and follow those triangles down into the city. This would symbolize how we will play a role in the shaping of the future.
- As we turn to make our final descent, we would see the faces of other passengers follow ours into the city, symbolizing that we have to create a future that is favorable for everyone, not just ourselves.
- As we proceed down the final descent tunnel, we'd be surrounded by lights and fiber optic effects, mixed in with more triangles depicting images and ideas of the future. (If Disney wanted to be really clever, the trianlges could showcase ideas that are related to other FW pavilions; i.e.- farming innovations (The Land), wind turbines, solar (UoE), underwater colonies (The Seas), space colonies on distant planets (Mission: Space))
- As far as music and narration, the narration would reflect how we must build a future for everyone, and join together to solve our problems "to create a better world" for the next generation. The music would remain the same up until the future city. After that, a newly imagined Tomorrow's Child would be heard all the way into the unload area.
Exactly. When I think of the ways the new SSE has been "dumbed down," its the meaning, message, and challenge that was so present in versions '94, '86, and '82 that is missing in '07. That definitely must come back.
I would LOVE to see that...It would truely unify and make SSE the "icon" of EPCOT it is...Just throw in some international stuff to placate WS too.
Expo_Seeker40
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Here are some pics from my evac back in January 08
Here we are leaving the gas clouds area, and making our way down into the pepper's ghost area. The extension with lights on the right is what used to hold the set pieces above it for the pepper's ghost. On the left side is (still covered) star curtains covering either the glass sets still there, or covering up their remnants. As far as I know, the curtains have gone dark and no longer have stars twinkling like they did during the soft previews.
This is the curve in the track to where glitter city would have been. I'm sure the city was gone by the time the ride soft opened in December, but the entire area was left with stretched out and stapled star curtains. These have since been removed and show the first of many blue triangles.
Here's what the glitter city area looks like now (from Martins video)
The ending corridor, consisting of the netted dome in which triangles would eventually be hanging from. Around us were nooks, one of them holding the former 1994 SSE model globe (no longer there), there was construction equipment tucked in these nooks, and nothing else but black sound proof panneled walls. Further down was a combination of dark 1994 curtains, as well as grey star curtains from the 2007 version.
Here we are leaving the gas clouds area, and making our way down into the pepper's ghost area. The extension with lights on the right is what used to hold the set pieces above it for the pepper's ghost. On the left side is (still covered) star curtains covering either the glass sets still there, or covering up their remnants. As far as I know, the curtains have gone dark and no longer have stars twinkling like they did during the soft previews.
This is the curve in the track to where glitter city would have been. I'm sure the city was gone by the time the ride soft opened in December, but the entire area was left with stretched out and stapled star curtains. These have since been removed and show the first of many blue triangles.
Here's what the glitter city area looks like now (from Martins video)
The ending corridor, consisting of the netted dome in which triangles would eventually be hanging from. Around us were nooks, one of them holding the former 1994 SSE model globe (no longer there), there was construction equipment tucked in these nooks, and nothing else but black sound proof panneled walls. Further down was a combination of dark 1994 curtains, as well as grey star curtains from the 2007 version.
EPCOT Explorer
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Here are some pics from my evac back in January 08
Here we are leaving the gas clouds area, and making our way down into the pepper's ghost area. The extension with lights on the right is what used to hold the set pieces above it for the pepper's ghost. On the left side is (still covered) star curtains covering either the glass sets still there, or covering up their remnants. As far as I know, the curtains have gone dark and no longer have stars twinkling like they did during the soft previews.
This is the curve in the track to where glitter city would have been. I'm sure the city was gone by the time the ride soft opened in December, but the entire area was left with stretched out and stapled star curtains. These have since been removed and show the first of many blue triangles.
Here's what the glitter city area looks like now (from Martins video)
The ending corridor, consisting of the netted dome in which triangles would eventually be hanging from. Around us were nooks, one of them holding the former 1994 SSE model globe (no longer there), there was construction equipment tucked in these nooks, and nothing else but black sound proof panneled walls. Further down was a combination of dark 1994 curtains, as well as grey star curtains from the 2007 version.
You couldn't have "tripped" on the stairs and "fallen" into the curtains and thus pulled them down?:lookaroun:lol:
hpyhnt 1000
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I would LOVE to see that...It would truely unify and make SSE the "icon" of EPCOT it is...Just throw in some international stuff to placate WS too.
Oh, if you insist.
I'm thinking you could probably do that in the future city. Y'know, an Eiffel Tower looking thing here, an asian Pagoda thing there; they could mix and match a bit. :lol: