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EPCOT Space 220 Restaurant dining experience at Epcot's Future World
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it's funny 'cause it's true!You're more likely to be enjoying this:
Phicinfan
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Oh I know. To be honest we hit a sweet spot. I set up the vacation about two or three weeks ago just before they announced opening up all of Wilderness and others. Prices jumped post that. So I won't complain at all.... well except for lack of noodles
ppete1975
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i think the plan is to make a big deal about epcot when rat opens... the store will be open, 220, the barge show, and rat... now if they could have had guardians and moana done by then they could have really boosted attendance.
ppete1975
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i went looking but couldnt find it.. isnt there a picture of the mermaids in poc having the windows error when they were under waterYou're more likely to be enjoying this:
ppete1975
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i feel old... really old now
Sirwalterraleigh
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orky8
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Since Chapek slow-rolled all the other things planned for the 50th, so a new d-ticket ride in a park not celebrating it's 50th became the big thing, unless you count cupcakes and sparkly lights?
ppete1975
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Money?
I am assuming they expect capacity to be much higher by then harmonious ready, fireworks back, and hopefully some of the spine opened up. Im not sure they really care about attendance at epcot right now, and consider it a construction zone that will always bring in people that love epcot and the festivals.
But they are hoping when they open rat that will be a fresh start for Epcot so they will open other things at the same time to help it get the numbers they want. But thats just been my opinion since they pushed back rat... its all capacity, and money.
Instead of opening one thing, then another, then another.. open them all together and make a huge publicity run.
The_Jobu
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Is it just me, or are they doing more for Epcot for the 50th than MK?
ppete1975
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Epcots 40th is going to be a lot bigger than MKs 18month 50th
maybe not attendance or marketing.. but new experiences and changes to the park
Ohh... so WDW will indeed be adding live chimpanzees to the park!
So it wasn't the Chinese... it was Chapek that caused a world-wide pandemic!!
orky8
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Chapek put the brakes on Tron and moth-balled Rat until the 50th so he'd have something new to open. Yes. Worldwide pandemic or not, Chapek could have told construction on Tron to proceed instead of halting it (Universal still managed to build velocicoaster, for example) or said to open Rat as soon as it was ready, which it currently is, instead of holding it until MK's 50th.
I find the Rat decision a perfect example of current leadership mindset, which doesn't give a $#@# about the guest experience. Covid or not, it's ready to go. Open it.
Absent a world-wide pandemic there was supposed to be for MK:
- A new coaster (TRON)
- A revamped Speedway
- A replacement for Stitch
- A fashion do-over for Tomorrowland
- The castle decoration
- Maybe a new float for the day parade
- Borrowing DL's electric night parade
- A 50th tag to HEA
- A Main Street Theater
- An upgrade to MK park entrance (all four parks got that, too)
- IP additions to TTA
- The explosion added to BTM
- Refurb Main Street facades
- Projections on Main Street facades
- Update CoP (at least the last scene)
- Something something Muppets
- New scenes for PhilharMagic
Some things are happening. Some aren't or are delayed due to COVID, and some are cut for other reasons.
DHS was in desperate need for new rides.
And it turned out, EPCOT was also in desparate need as it was about to become the least attended of the four park.
The best thing for MK right now is to continue to beef up the other three parks to draw away people from MK which is already overcrowded. Disney seems poised to 'fix' the overcrowding of MK not only with carrots and sticks (mainly higher prices), but with a hard cap, thanks to the new Park Reservation system.
50th celebrations aren't connected to a switch to turn on. All the things that were supposed to happen were in process for years. Then when a world-wide pandemic hit, it became clear that there was no clear end to the pandemic. You don't remember everyone's surprise when lockdowns were happening for a month, then three months? Estimates of the pandemic depressing the economy that could go on for years? All before we had a working vaccine?
That causes companies to 'turtle'. And if Disney didn't conserve resources to show that the company didn't have a net loss quarter after quarter, its stocks would have plummeted. In that case, we may be talking about Disney Amazon Parks right now.
It's easy and cheap to blame someone while ignoring all the uncertainties and restrictions they faced.
ppete1975
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if covid didnt happen and capacity wasnt capped Rat would be opened. I think this is a why waste it now, its more valuable to keep unopened due to all of the variables.
ppete1975
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disneyland lost all of the 65th anniversary time. Its clear from the merchandise we did see (funkos etc) that they wanted that to be a big one.
orky8
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Because guests visiting for the next 5 months might enjoy it. Valuable to who, marketing? I mean, I'm not going to say what would Walt do. But, I'm pretty sure not this. Though, he could probably build a restaurant in less than 4 years too.