Some Ask if the Disney Magic Is Slipping (NY Times article)

speck76

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Some Ask if the Disney Magic Is Slipping
By CHARLES PASSY
The New York Times

Maybe it was the rollaway bed that didn't materialize because it was suddenly deemed a fire hazard.

Or maybe it was the air mattress that surfaced in its place with a pile of bedding that included 20 - yes, 20 - pillowcases and one sheet.

Or maybe it was the manager who called and apologized for the mistakes - at nearly 1 a.m.

But as tipping points go, it was hard to top the bill with a $750 error - in the resort's favor. Such a mistake was proof positive that something was terribly amiss, leaving my wife and me to ask, "What kind of a Mickey Mouse operation is this?"

It was a question meant in the most literal sense. We weren't staying at some budget motel off the Interstate. We were spending more than $300 a night for a one-bedroom "turn-of-the-century style vacation villa" at Walt Disney World's one-year-old Saratoga Springs Resort and Spa. But we were experiencing little of the celebrated Disney "magic," that bend-over-backward brand of service. Instead, our family vacation was turning into a part-nightmarish, part-comical adventure that I quickly took to describing as Disney meets "Fawlty Towers" meets the "Twilight Zone."

And apparently, we weren't the only ones on this ride. To hear some other guests tell similar stories of inept service at Disney World theme parks and resorts is to realize the Mouse may no longer be as mighty.

As Disney marks the 50th birthday of its first theme park - Disneyland in California - with a companywide 18-month celebration that began in May, it is facing great scrutiny, particularly when it comes to Walt Disney World - a 30,000-plus-acre complex in Florida that comprises four theme parks and more than 20 resorts and that attracted 40.5 million visitors in 2004, according to the trade journal Amusement Business.

Much of the focus stems from the recent corporate shakeup that ended with the decision by Michael D. Eisner, the longtime chief executive, to resign effective this September. (He is being replaced by Disney's president, Robert A. Iger.) It's a tale of boardroom intrigue that inspired James B. Stewart's "Disney War," published this year. At the heart of the drama is the question of whether Disney has put profits ahead of the need to deliver that "magic," especially at the parks and resorts.

The issue has been raised repeatedly by Roy E. Disney (Walt's nephew), former Disney board member and executive. In "Disney War," he is quoted telling a group of investors, "If you've been [to the parks] in recent years, you will have noticed the lack of maintenance, the fewer number of characters on the streets. The cast members ... have been pared back unmercifully. Their hours have been cut, benefits taken away. That gets reflected in their attitude toward the guests." (Mr. Disney declined comment for this article, although he recently came to an agreement with Disney's board and management to withdraw a lawsuit challenging the selection process behind Mr. Iger's appointment.)

It is also an issue that arose in an article in The Orlando Sentinel, published in March 2004, about its investigation of maintenance at Disney World's Magic Kingdom. The paper reported that "flaws included worn walkways and steps, rotting wood, scratched and chipped stucco, peeling paint, rusted railings, faded awnings and yellowing plants."

The issue seems to resonate with Disney guests. On such Web sites as WDWInfo.com and MiceAge.com, they debate matters ranging from the company's attention to ride safety (in the wake of recent scares connected to such attractions as Mission: Space at the Epcot park and the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror at Disney-MGM Studios, including the death of a 4-year-old boy after riding Mission: Space) to the wait times for Disney buses. There appears to be a growing view that the Mouse no longer delivers at the same magical level.

While not denying that problems occur, Disney officials say their commitment to customer service remains strong, as evidenced by the fact that 75 percent of Disney World visitors are repeat guests. "Our goal in life is to get excellent ratings," said Lee Cockerell, executive vice president for operations at Disney World. "We try to move the 'goods' up to 'very goods' and the 'very goods' up to 'excellents.' "

But in Beth Motta's case, she'd be hard pressed to give Disney a "fair." Ms. Motta, a Cleveland-area nursing student, traveled with her husband and four children for a six-day stay at Disney World's All-Star Music Resort this spring. Despite assurances from Disney staff members that she could have connecting rooms - a must since one of her children is disabled - Ms. Motta says she was told otherwise when she arrived. "I sat in the lobby and cried," she recalled.

Even more disconcerting are reports that Disney is slow or unwilling to respond to complaints. In Ms. Motta's case, she says she had the problem corrected after much haggling, but the "solution" meant staying in a more remote location at the resort and sharing a building with a group of noisy teenagers. She did receive a credit of $120 - on a $1,300 bill - but it wasn't offered until she contacted the guest communications department upon her return home.

I hit a similar wall of unresponsiveness with managers at the Saratoga Springs resort: I had to argue my way into an upgrade that provided the very sleeping arrangements I was guaranteed. After more problems ensued, I received $100 in credit - far less than the refund for a full-night's stay that hospitality-industry experts I interviewed say was merited. And there barely seemed to be acknowledgment that the resort was still under construction. (When I returned home, I called a higher-level manager - without revealing that I was a journalist - and she agreed to refund my entire stay.)

Such stories prompt some observers of Disney operations to say the situation reflects a demoralized, improperly trained staff. "There's a palpable difference in the attitudes of cast members versus five years ago. There are fewer smiles there," said Pete Werner, the founder and Webmaster of WDWInfo.com.

Disney executives vehemently deny such charges. In an opinion column responding to the article in The Orlando Sentinel, Disney World's president, Al Weiss, noted a 90 percent approval rating from guests when it comes to upkeep and cleanliness at the Magic Kingdom.

And in a recent interview, Mr. Cockerell said that Disney World's staff was at an all-time high of 57,000, though the number can fluctuate depending on the season. And while he conceded that Disney's "traditions" employee-orientation program has been pared back to one day from two days, he argued that it was because Disney had focused on other training methods. As for resolving guests' complaints, Mr. Cockerell insists that managers are empowered to offer whatever is appropriate to rectify the situation.

And what about my problem-riddled visit? "Your stay was not typical," Mr. Cockerell said.

Still, Mr. Cockerell allows that mistakes do happen, given the sheer size of Disney World's operations. But the real reason some guests walk away disappointed, Mr. Cockerell suspects, is that they arrive with such high expectations. "Walt Disney World is like a national park," he said. "If something doesn't go right, I get a seven-page letter."

IN a sense, that may be Disney's own doing. Since the company's first venture into the theme-park business a half-century ago, it has maintained that it wants to create an immaculate escape-from-the-real-world environment. Disneyland grew out of Walt Disney's disappointing experiences with his own children at amusement parks. "You could have fantastic rides, but if the place was sloppy or you had to wait for toilets [it wouldn't work]. For him, it had to be beautiful," said Diane Disney Miller, Walt's daughter, in the Summer 2005 issue of Disney Magazine. (That issue of the decades-old magazine was the last to hit the stands. It ceased publication because of the company's bottom-line concerns.)

But another part of the equation, say observers like Deb Wills, founder of AllEarsNet.com, another unofficial Disney site, is that Disney guests have come to anticipate "magic moments" at, well, every moment. "People hear so many wonderful things they think it's going to be picture perfect," she said. Take the famed "towel animals" - towels that have been shaped to resemble wildlife - that Disney maids have been known to leave in a guest's room. What started as a surprise offering has now become a de rigueur part of the Disney experience.

But for most guests, the experience comes close to the quintessential family vacation. Take Vicki Moreno, a San Antonio homemaker who has been a Disney World regular since 1991. Her ultimate "magic moment" came a few weeks ago at a character autograph-signing opportunity at Epcot. When one of her daughters realized she had lost her autograph book, a Disney staff member arranged a free replacement and a private character meet-and-greet. Ms. Moreno's reaction? "I thought, 'Wow!' " she said.

And that's the funny thing: Despite all the problems with my stay, there were plenty of "wows," too. Like the time the chef at the Polynesian Resort prepared a special fruit platter for my food-allergic 13-year-old son. Or the time a security guard at Epcot, sensing my 6-year-old daughter's impatience as we waited in the bag-search line, took off his cap and placed it affectionately on her head.

Then, there's the "wow" I experience every time I enter the Magic Kingdom. Seeing the cobblestone streets and the rows of old-timey shops, I can't help but buy into the fantasy that is Walt Disney's Main Street, designed after the one in his boyhood home of Marceline, Mo. Some might call it synthetic, but that's missing the point: It never pretends to be real.

And that's perhaps why when Disney stumbles, we respond so vociferously. If we wanted the headaches and hassles, we'd stay at the budget motel off the Interstate. Instead, we want the magic. And we'll keep going to Disney World in search of it - for the time being.
 

imagineersrock

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GaryT977 said:
I think that might be about as well balanced an article as can be expected.
That was pretty well balanced... one interesting thing to note was that the writer managed to get a full refund... thats pretty impressive! lol

Anyway- good find, Speck.
 

Epcot82Guy

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Interesting presentation. I have long thought the decrease in Traditions and training (which is far from a Disney-isolated thing) has been to blame for many of the problems. I would love to see how an increase would affect the overall atmosphere and, eventually, quality and profit.
 

dxwwf3

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speck76 said:
And that's perhaps why when Disney stumbles, we respond so vociferously. If we wanted the headaches and hassles, we'd stay at the budget motel off the Interstate. Instead, we want the magic. And we'll keep going to Disney World in search of it - for the time being.

In the words of Ned Ryerson in Groundhog Day:

"BING!"
 

dave2822

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I suppose it's "well balanced," but "pointless" comes to mind. Nobody else even tries to do what Disney does, the standards they set are incredible. Perhaps the time would have been better spent investigating Wal-Mart or AOL Time-Warner, companies that truly put all profits first and their blatant disregard of customers and employees. But, I suppose picking on Disney is a fad.
 

Alexandra

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I, too, appreciated the strong ending of the article. When you go as often as we do, you're bound to have some issues here and there, but you also have the "wows" to go along with them.

For example, a few years back we checked into our room at the Poly and I was horrified to see torn bedspreads and stained carpeting. I called and asked for a room change. Not only did they change our room but they gave us one facing the MK so we could watch the fireworks from our balcony.

Last summer, we ate at Boma and I told the server that the rotisserie chicken was undercooked (it really was red on the inside). He thanked me for telling him, I said, "No problem," and that should have been it. Except that this is Disney World and they would never let this slide. The next thing we knew, the chef was standing at our table and apologized profusely for the chicken. She said she was taking the chicken off the buffet and cooking a new batch. She asked us if we'd eaten there before and we said yes and told her how much we enjoyed it. The chef thanked us, said goodbye and we went back to stuffing our faces. When the time came to go to the dessert buffet, the chef reappeared with a platter that said, "Thank you for coming back" written in chocolate and surrounded by incredible cookies, pastries and candies, which were not part of the buffet. We were totally blown away.

So for us, the Disney magic is still alive and well and this is why we keep going back again and again and again. Nobody does it better than Disney.

And speaking of going back - 13 days, 7 hours, 35 minutes and 31 seconds!! :sohappy:

These last 2 weeks are the longest.
 
This was a pretty good article and I believe an opinion that is more and more typical. As to the Wal-Mart poster, I agree (along with most in America) that those stores and their employees and thier management are poor for the customers (I realize that these are generalizations), but unfortunately no competitors exist that offer much (if any) better service. The one who finally comes along and does that will make out like a bandit.

The problem (or good thing, depending upon your view) can be summed up as follows:

Disney = High Expectations of Magic
Wal-Mart = Low Expectations of Service
 

dave2822

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thedisneyfan said:
This was a pretty good article and I believe an opinion that is more and more typical. As to the Wal=Mart poster, I agree (along with most in America) that those stores and their employees and thier management are poor for the customers (I realize that these are generalizations), but unfortunately no competitors exist that offer much (if any) better service. The one who finally comes along and does that will make out like a bandit.

The problem (or good thing, depending upon your view) can be summed up as follows:

Disney = High Expectations of Magic
Wal-Mart = Low Expectations of Service

Haha the Wal-Mart Poster :wave: That's an accurate depiction of me

It's a bit more than that. Places like Target do in fact offer slightly better service, as do some other similar chains, but Wal-Mart has the money and the ability to stay on top.

It's a bit of a different comparison, because most people do not care if Wal-Mart has bad service or not, they don't go to get treated like royalty, they go to get great deals, and as long as Wal-Mart keeps offering cheaply priced products, it doesn't matter how badly they treat employees or even customers, it won't affect the astronomical bottom line in the long run.

My only point was that it strikes me funny to write an article about how one entertainment giant sets the bar crazily high should be criticized somewhat when they slip up, when another one, like a Wal-Mart or an AOL-TW, doesn't even have a bar, makes even more of a profit than Disney, and we aren't talking about their low ethics.

But I suppose when you hold yourself to a higher standard, you will always be questioned and leave yourself open to speculation.
 

jiddng

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dave2822 said:
I suppose it's "well balanced," but "pointless" comes to mind. Nobody else even tries to do what Disney does, the standards they set are incredible. Perhaps the time would have been better spent investigating Wal-Mart or AOL Time-Warner, companies that truly put all profits first and their blatant disregard of customers and employees. But, I suppose picking on Disney is a fad.

You hit the nail on the head. It's always easier to try and knock the guy off the top of the totem pole, than to attempt to climb it yourself!
 

t3techcom18

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This is a really good article! Hopefully, being the New York Times is national (correct me if I'm wrong please), it could attract more attention to the TWDC, as it wasn't like the Orlando Sentinel, which was local to Orlando...with the NY Times doing something on this, I hope and would expect that WDW and TWDC as a whole responds to this, and helps create more magical moments for guests, cast members, and all alike.
 

ClemsonTigger

Naturally Grumpy
dave2822 said:
I suppose it's "well balanced," but "pointless" comes to mind. Nobody else even tries to do what Disney does, the standards they set are incredible. Perhaps the time would have been better spent investigating Wal-Mart or AOL Time-Warner, companies that truly put all profits first and their blatant disregard of customers and employees. But, I suppose picking on Disney is a fad.


Well, I think you kind of got the point, then missed it. You are right, it is Disney that has set the bar so high for itself, and because of that they must meet it. As was said later, Target or Wal-Mart promise great prices, so no-one expects much from service. On the other hand, the Church, like Disney defines perfection, so even one bad priest is too many. And maybe because Disney is so much closer to the ideal than the next best, is the reason why it is so much more scandalous for Disney to make a trip than most anyone else.

This was possibly the most balanced article on Disney that I've read in a long time. Only criticism was the mention of the MS death and ToT medical emergency. Neither of those cases even hinted at error or negligence on the part of the ride or Disney...unlike Thunder Mtn. or Cali. Screaming.
 

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