Soarin' Expansion and new Soarin' Around the World film

[JordanNite]

The projection is so bad at the moment for this attraction - worn out so much.

 

[Figment2005]

The steel finally gives away the orientation of the new structure. It doesn't actually make sense to me why they are setting it up that way because the sight lines will be less that spectacular. If they had just used the existing structure to hide the new structure, the sight lines wouldn't have changed, but now we will have a large flat surface protruding above the existing structure.

 

[1023]

The steel finally gives away the orientation of the new structure. It doesn't actually make sense to me why they are setting it up that way because the sight lines will be less that spectacular. If they had just used the existing structure to hide the new structure, the sight lines wouldn't have changed, but now we will have a large flat surface protruding above the existing structure.

Perhaps they are relocating the queue.... (wishful thinking)... It would be nice if they ran it around "The Land" rather than thru it.... Someone here expressed that idea before... I vote for it...

*1023*

 

[articos]

Well the other two theatres will need the transition to the new film (and 4K) as this theatre will likely open with the new film (or at least 4K definitely). The other theatres will need to close at some point to get that upgrade.

However if they close them one at a time, then it shouldn't affect the ride capacity at all as the ride has been running on two theatres it's whole existence.

Right.

 

[DisneyCane]

Perhaps they are relocating the queue.... (wishful thinking)... It would be nice if they ran it around "The Land" rather than thru it.... Someone here expressed that idea before... I vote for it...

*1023*

Isn't the "thru it" designed to get foot traffic near the food court?

 

[1023]

Isn't the "thru it" designed to get foot traffic near the food court?

The food court had no trouble getting foot traffic before Soarin' existed... There is valuable space there that could be used for another attraction. There also could be an argument made that Soarin' doesn't actually belong in "The Land" pavilion anyway.

*1023*

 

[Goofyernmost]

The food court had no trouble getting foot traffic before Soarin' existed... There is valuable space there that could be used for another attraction. There also could be an argument made that Soarin' doesn't actually belong in "The Land" pavilion anyway.

*1023*

Could be used for another attraction, but, we all know it won't be. I don't see the problem with entering through the land, it gives you easy access to the other things in that pavilion as well as the food court and the queue line is long enough that even with a 90 minute wait, the queue holds them all. Not to mention that although I am aware that many cannot see the connection of Soarin and Land, it is perfectly clear to me, since it's the land that we are Soarin over. It's not like they have a Sky Pavilion that they could have stuck it in.

 

[George]

Could be used for another attraction, but, we all know it won't be. I don't see the problem with entering through the land, it gives you easy access to the other things in that pavilion as well as the food court and the queue line is long enough that even with a 90 minute wait, the queue holds them all. Not to mention that although I am aware that many cannot see the connection of Soarin and Land, it is perfectly clear to me, since it's the land that we are Soarin over. It's not like they have a Sky Pavilion that they could have stuck it in.

It's a travelogue for California, we're not soaring over farmland. The land was about agriculture and our ability to get sustenance from the land (i.e. food). I suppose you could say the pavilion has been transformed into a celebration of every non-water bit on the surface of the earth, but I would find that just as stupid as your sky pavilion example. Plus, we're limited to all the non-ocean bit in one state. You could build a Soarin' over the world one on of the expansion pads in World Showcase and that would work, but really Soarin' as it exists now doesn't belong anywhere in WDW.

 

[Goofyernmost]

It's a travelogue for California, we're not soaring over farmland. The land was about agriculture and our ability to get sustenance from the land (i.e. food). I suppose you could say the pavilion has been transformed into a celebration of every non-water bit on the surface of the earth, but I would find that just as stupid as your sky pavilion example. Plus, we're limited to all the non-ocean bit in one state. You could build a Soarin' over the world one on of the expansion pads in World Showcase and that would work, but really Soarin' as it exists now doesn't belong anywhere in WDW.

Ok, I guess those mountains, deserts, rivers, lakes and ocean are not in anyway connected to the land. Alright, I stand corrected. Everyone is way to hung up on the fact that it was filmed over California to tell me why the dirt there is any different then what can be found anyplace else. Is the water wetter, snow whiter, sand sandier or the orange groves orangier then can be found on the East Coast? Sorry, now that I think about it, nope, not buying the California cop out.

 

[George]

Ok, I guess those mountains, deserts, rivers, lakes and ocean are not in anyway connected to the land. Alright, I stand corrected. Everyone is way to hung up on the fact that it was filmed over California to tell me why the dirt there is any different then what can be found anyplace else. Is the water wetter, snow whiter, sand sandier or the orange groves orangier then can be found on the East Coast? Sorry, now that I think about it, nope, not buying the California cop out.

Lazy imagineering and you know it. By that logic, the only attractions that don't fit in the pavilion are The Living Seas and Space Mountain because everything else features land. Good point.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Lazy imagineering and you know it. By that logic, the only attractions that don't fit in the pavilion are The Living Seas and Space Mountain because everything else features land. Good point.

Yes, but since it was part of the 50th Anniversary sharing thing with other Disney Parks it really didn't need to be anything else and it only mattered to people that had seen Soarin over California. To everyone else it was anywhere in the states. George, please, you know what I'm talking about and your example of Living Seas isn't even correct as I do believe I mentioned oceans and consequently fish are a source of food and a type of farming so by your definition it should actually be in the Land.

Look I know it would have been nice if they had done a new film for Soarin, but, it was one of the few things that really didn't matter to anyone that hadn't traveled to the West Coast. It represented the diversity that this country offers and like areas that are depicted in the film can be found in other places besides California. It's not a Cali exclusive. And it still represented the land that we inhabit which isn't just made up of soil. I think the proof of that is the magnitude of the line that is constantly waiting to see it again and again.

 

[marni1971]

It was a stretch, and it was a case of multiple boxes ticked with the obliteration of a dated show that otherwise needed an expensive overhaul. And the theme and connection was a push.

But be grateful. DLP got a badly butchered version of Wishes.

 

[Kman101]

Soarin' doesn't belong in the Land. What they should have done and would fit Epcot would be an aviation pavilion. Basically what they gave DCA originally but ... better.

 

[Bocabear]

The Land Pavilion seems so off track now from the second you walk in the door...it looks like a shopping mall food court and and airport...neither of which feel like they tell a story about THE LAND... I think the pavilion always had a bit of an identity problem, but this expansion with Soarin' took it way off the point...I love Living With The Land...I would love to see the pavilion as a whole look more like that attraction... make it feel less corporate, more organic...
Soarin' is here...it's not going to move...but now how can the pavilion help cohesively draw together the two main attractions... it should be more of a bridge....and an airport food court is not the right answer...
I am glad for the Soarin' expansion...just now fix the rest of the pavilion...Tell the story it was meant to tell.

 

[Kman101]

I completely agree about The Land. It's not very appealing at all. They long ago ripped out the beautiful fountain inside, the mural was painted over ... I think Velocity Field was an idea from Disney's America, the never built park ... why not do that and it could have gone where Millenium Village sits. The decisions these people make are so short-sighted to me. It's all about shoe-horning things instead of thinking a bit more outside of the box to create a more impressive experience.

 

[Goofyernmost]

The Land Pavilion seems so off track now from the second you walk in the door...it looks like a shopping mall food court and and airport...neither of which feel like they tell a story about THE LAND...

Sorry, but except for some fancier table and seating arrangements as you enter the Land looks almost exactly like it did when it opened. The food court connected to the land by the fact that we use the land to feed ourselves. The only representation of Soarin is on that floor and just a sign and entrance to the queue. It's not obtrusive, although it adds very little, it takes away even less. What it did do is bring people into the land pavilion that weren't going in there before, I'd call that a plus in anybodies book.

 

[chiefs11]

I kinda agree with goofy here and don't have much issue with Soarin being part of the Land pavilion. There's also the possibility that if it weren't for Soarin drawing people in there, the Land might have gone the way of WoL.

However, in my opinion what they should have done from the start, is make a new Soarin' over the World film, and had the entrance come from World Showcase between Canada and Imagination, or the Millennium Village/World Showplace area. The queue wouldn’t have to be that much longer if you rotated it around 180degrees to reach the Showplace. (It would just have to be elevated and enclosed to go over the backstage access areas) It would be nice if that area were actually used for something permanent, like maybe a generic pavilion with rotating country displays for other countries that don't have proper pavilions, or a new home for IaSW when they move it over to Epcot...(lol)

I guess the new film is coming eventually, and nothing really would stop them from moving the entrance and queue now if they wanted to, but we all know it won't happen.

 

[Monorail_Red_77]

The food court had no trouble getting foot traffic before Soarin' existed... There is valuable space there that could be used for another attraction. There also could be an argument made that Soarin' doesn't actually belong in "The Land" pavilion anyway.

*1023*

Yea, they could build an entrance queue in Imagination Pavilion to link to Soarin'. I mean it is more imagination than land right? You are pretending to fly, not on a boat trip through a garden.

 

[Bocabear]

Sorry but it is much more industrial looking now than it was years ago...not quite the same view...They could have redone the food court and plussed up the atmosphere rather than stripping it down to make it look more like an airport...and I get that "Airport" was the theme with Soarin', but it just detracts from the theme of the pavilion... And I am not arguing that is was perfect before...because it was not... But I think creating an immersive beautifully themed environment will bring more people in than a stripped down airport concourse.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Soarin' doesn't belong in the Land. What they should have done and would fit Epcot would be an aviation pavilion. Basically what they gave DCA originally but ... better.

I would suggest putting a long queue that begins in Showcase Plaza on the Canada side.