csm
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Oh come on. You'll be just as excited in three years when you ride it for the very first time.
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So is anyone losing interest in the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train?
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Oh come on. You'll be just as excited in three years when you ride it for the very first time.
Weather_Lady
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Kman101
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The problem is going to stem from anyone who sets their expectations as it being, as Steve said, this full force coaster. It's not. The thrill comes from the swinging cars and you get a nice dark portion. It's perfect for their target audience. Which, unfortunately, despite what they claim, isn't aimed at "the whole family". It's aimed at children. And even then I'd argue that some kids won't like the dark, won't like the witch and many may not like the swinging cars. So .... I almost don't see how this is geared towards the little kiddies.
That being said, it was very impressive in person (the exterior, that is, no ride for me yet), much bigger than I expected it to be from the photos, and it will be a fun little ride. People never should have expected Splash Mountain. I do think they should have added a second dark portion, but there's no real point going on about it. It is what it is.
I also think people use the term 'kiddie ride' as an effort to knock it, but why knock it? It's not what many wanted, but being upset about it isn't going to make the ride go away. I don't know why it's being dwelled on. It's probably simply because there's nothing else to talk about. The next discussion is likely going to be how "insane the waits are and I can't believe people are waiting for this".
We all know how TDO operates (they refuse to spend money on anything and cut things when they do add something new), so why do we continue to be upset about it? They don't listen to us. They don't care. It's sad that anything new gets met with total skepticism and near hatred because we've grown acustomed to expecting just about nothing from them. That's the real problem and demands some real change. We should focus on that and not a "family" coaster in Fantasyland. And since others want to bring up Universal (that's getting old, by the way, and I love love love Universal and what they're doing), I don't see how Gringotts is for the entire family either because it looks honestly terrifying, lol. I'm assuming that track will go over show scenes that are screens to make you immersed in the ride?
Anywho .... lol.
That being said, it was very impressive in person (the exterior, that is, no ride for me yet), much bigger than I expected it to be from the photos, and it will be a fun little ride. People never should have expected Splash Mountain. I do think they should have added a second dark portion, but there's no real point going on about it. It is what it is.
I also think people use the term 'kiddie ride' as an effort to knock it, but why knock it? It's not what many wanted, but being upset about it isn't going to make the ride go away. I don't know why it's being dwelled on. It's probably simply because there's nothing else to talk about. The next discussion is likely going to be how "insane the waits are and I can't believe people are waiting for this".
We all know how TDO operates (they refuse to spend money on anything and cut things when they do add something new), so why do we continue to be upset about it? They don't listen to us. They don't care. It's sad that anything new gets met with total skepticism and near hatred because we've grown acustomed to expecting just about nothing from them. That's the real problem and demands some real change. We should focus on that and not a "family" coaster in Fantasyland. And since others want to bring up Universal (that's getting old, by the way, and I love love love Universal and what they're doing), I don't see how Gringotts is for the entire family either because it looks honestly terrifying, lol. I'm assuming that track will go over show scenes that are screens to make you immersed in the ride?
Anywho .... lol.
erasure fan1
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I don't really hear any "it sucks!" I really think the problem is how long this has taken to complete. You would think something that took so long to build would just be more grand in scope. I personally think the ride will be great for what it is. My beef has always been that the whole fantasy land project is underwhelming for the time its taken to build. With that long of a project, I would have really expected 1 AAA headliner along with everything else. I think the other problem that has given people the "over it" attitude is the staggered opening. One big grand opening would have given a much bigger WOW factor. Instead we are still waiting to see the land in its entirety since the begging of 2011. Sorry but that's a long time for what we got in the end.
lebeau
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Assuming the ride opens as expected, we have FPs for the 29th which should be the ride's second official day of operation. The mine train should still have that new ride smell. That's moderately exciting. Beyond that, no one in my family is especially jazzed about the new ride. There are other things we're looking forward to a lot more.
devoy1701
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I still don't have an interest. It's been almost 5 years since we've been to Disney World (with the exception of a drink around the World trip with work to Epcot/Waldorf). Now that we have a son (4 months), we're probably going to head over there for a holiday trip this December so he can see the lights and the parades, but we really aren't busting with anxiety over the Mine Train.
I can't wait for him to see the Main Street Electrical Parade! He seems to love that tune when it comes on the iPod! Funny how something 40 years old is still more interesting than FLE!
I can't wait for him to see the Main Street Electrical Parade! He seems to love that tune when it comes on the iPod! Funny how something 40 years old is still more interesting than FLE!
Playing devils advocate, perhaps the very large budget and unbelievably long schedule would normally say something huge is coming, and people expect this. With words banded around in publicity and by fans like show scenes, Rollercoaster, animatronics and the like its fair to say some are less than enthusiastic.
lebeau
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Let's not forget "e-ticket" and "mountain" both of which are being completely misapplied. And I've lost count of how many around here have proclaimed the ride an "instant classic" based on a YouTube video.
My sister and her two boys will be there on the 30th. Her boys are and have watched all the videos of 7DMT. I was doing the "what do you want to ride first" game with them the other day. The mine train didnt make the list. Just to be clear, I did not lead them in their thinking or mention the mine train at all. They named the usual favorites, POTC, TSMM, Star Tours. I think once they ride it they will like it, but as of now, they could care less and like your family, they are looking forward to many other things.
wannab@dis
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Let's not forget "cute" and "kiddie" both of which are being completely dismissive. And I've lost count of how many around here and proclaimed the ride an example of how Disney sucks and value engineered based on a YouTube video.
lebeau
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Let's not forget "cute" and "kiddie" both of which are being completely dismissive. And I've lost count of how many around here and proclaimed the ride an example of how Disney sucks and value engineered based on a YouTube video.
I think "cute" is very descriptive of what the ride is. "Kiddie" is not far off the mark either.
I'm going to have to bribe my 5-year-old to get on it. She's afraid of the witch. So getting her on the ride will cost me a trip to a gift shop. Hopefully it will be worth it. My 9 year old shrugged and said, sure she'll ride it. When I ask what she wants to do, it comes up occassionally. But it's never in the top 5. It ranks below the giant cinammon rolls at Gaston's Tavern among other things.
Of everyone in the family, I am the most excited just because it is something new. And I'm not all that excited.
cw1982
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This is pretty much me. My husband couldn't care less, and I only care because I'm curious lol. I have a FP for it for our last day, but I may end up switching it out for something else if we see it and decide we don't care enough to use a FP for it, or if we end up being able to ride with less of a wait during the late night EMH (not counting on it, but we'll see).
Children growing up in this era of WDW will believe this is the best Disney can do, and while its not bad, its far from what they are (or used to be) capable of. People proclaiming its an "instant classic" only make it worse IMO, and the average or once in a lifetime visitor buys into the hype for lack of not knowing any better and walks away thinking that the mine train is as good as it gets, and then WDW continues down the path theyre on because nobody held them responsible for cheaping out.
I agree with what @erasure fan1 said, the whole FLE is just underwhelming, 7DMT is not the headliner it should/could be, and the staggered opening didnt help at all. Another thing I dont understand is why they keep calling these AA's "new". The projection face AA has been around for awhile now. Maybe im missing something. All in all, every aspect of this ride has been extremely over exaggerated and just because people recognize that, they get branded as someone who hates the attraction. Some people are seriously blinded by their devotion to the brand.
csm
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It is indeed weird that an attraction that uses a roller coaster as its ride system, through show scenes featuring a number of animatronic figures would see some - both by publicity and by fans - band around words like show scenes, roller coaster, animatronics and the like.
Lol, it ranked below visiting Japan Pavilion at EPCOT for my 10 yr old nephew. He would rather stroll the shops and look at Pokemon stuff before riding the mine train. His brother (7 yr old) didnt even mention it. When I asked him about it, he replied with "Does the AKL have a slide in their pool?"
Nobody has said the ride will suck. The youtube video simply showed that there is ONLY one good show scene for the whole ride. 4 years in the making and they have built ONE quality scene and then spoon fed us the crap about "telling the story through the eyes of the dwarfs". I have yet to see anybody explain how they are even telling a story, let alone through the eyes of a dwarf. Call it value engineering or whatever you want, but WDW used to build ENTIRE THEME PARKS in 4 years and now it takes them that long to build a short roller coaster with one scene and they are asking us to be impressed by that? Seriously? The ride does look fun, but forgive me if I hold them to higher standards because thats what I grew up with when visiting WDW, not exaggeration.Let's not forget "cute" and "kiddie" both of which are being completely dismissive. And I've lost count of how many around here and proclaimed the ride an example of how Disney sucks and value engineered based on a YouTube video.
wannab@dis
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Fantasyland took 4 years to build... not the coaster. It wasn't even announced until they were a year or so into construction. Without spending a bunch of time going back through everything, it was probably about 2 years for construction with much of that time as an island in the center of an operational park. I get that you think it took too long. But that has nothing to do with the end result. IMO this family coaster will be one of the most popular fantasyland attractions. It wasn't meant to be some massive E-ticket coaster, but a new style family coaster with dark ride scenes. I completely understand that some wanted more. Nobody can be satisfied in today's world, just disappointed in what they get.
Since everyone seems to bring up Potter and make comparisons, I'll do the same.
Last year I got 37 presents but this year there's only 36.
Edit: fix number of presents for Dudley...
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lebeau
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Fantasyland took 4 years to build... not the coaster. It wasn't even announced until they were a year or so into construction. Without spending a bunch of time going back through everything, it was probably about 2 years for construction with much of that time as an island in the center of an operational park. I get that you think it took too long. But that has nothing to do with the end result. IMO this family coaster will be one of the most popular fantasyland attractions. It wasn't meant to be some massive E-ticket coaster, but a new style family coaster with dark ride scenes. I completely understand that some wanted more. Nobody can be satisfied in today's world, just disappointed in what they get.
Since everyone seems to bring up Potter and make comparisons, I'll do the same.
Last year I got 46 presents but this year there's only 45.
You lost me.
csm
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Last year I got 46 presents but this year there's only 45.
The sense of entitlement truly has run rampant on these forums of late. The fact that the mentality is "*I* had to wait 4 years so *I* deserve more" - sorry, who are you again?
The real point here is *your* (a general "your" as this applies to many on here) falsely placed sense of entitlement does not at all change the quality of the attraction. It just makes you (again, a general "you" as this applies to many on here) even more miserable when you don't get *your* way.