Snow White to get a semi-permanent meet and greet at the Germany pavilion

[Animaniac93-98]

Then at the end you could help Mulan pilot a Mersk container ship!

I don't know what a Mersk is, but if it has laser guns than that sounds good to me!

 

[Figment632]

I don't know what a Mersk is, but if it has laser guns than that sounds good to me!

No lasers but I heard they have photon torpedos.

 

[NewfieFan]

Figment, I have to side with you on this one.
None of the WDW parks are striding to be different anymore.
If Epcot really wanted a new identity, it would be going all out to try something different, not just copy from the Magic Kingdom.

Because it has characters it's now copying the MK!?!

Epcot is part of WDW... WDW has characters... Epcot has characters... get over it!!!

 

[SirGoofy]

Epcot is part of WDW... WDW has characters... Epcot has characters... get over it!!!

Ah, but characters for the sake of characters is wrong. Aladdin should not be present in Morocco. His story takes place in Asia, not Africa. He doesn't belong. Nor do the princesses belong in Norway, or Donald in Mexico.

 

[NewfieFan]

Ah, but characters for the sake of characters is wrong. Aladdin should not be present in Morocco. His story takes place in Asia, not Africa. He doesn't belong. Nor do the princesses belong in Norway, or Donald in Mexico.

So, if you were running the place and you had to put in some characters (you know, to keep the "dumb" ones amoung us entertained) who would you put where and why?

Btw, my kids favorite ride is the Gran Fiesta Tour! I don't know why but they love it!?!:shrug:

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Well Donald is presented as an American tourist in the ride and not like some ancient Mexican God so I'm not bothered by it myself.

 

[SirGoofy]

So, if you were running the place and you had to put in some characters (you know, to keep the "dumb" ones amoung us entertained) who would you put where and why?

Btw, my kids favorite ride is the Gran Fiesta Tour! I don't know why but they love it!?!:shrug:

First of all, there's nothing dumb about enjoying the characters. They just shouldn't be present where they don't belong. Snow White is fine, as are Alice/Marry Poppins/Pooh. I think Remy is perfect in France. But I would toss the princesses out of Norway, Belle and Beast out of France, Aladdin and friends out of Morocco, and Donald's meet and greet out of Mexico.

Well Donald is presented as an American tourist in the ride and not like some ancient Mexican God so I'm not bothered by it myself.

I was talking more about his Meet and Greet outside the pavilion. I don't have a problem with the ride, it is much more enjoyable now than before.

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

First of all, there's nothing dumb about enjoying the characters. They just shouldn't be present where they don't belong. Snow White is fine, as are Alice/Marry Poppins/Pooh. I think Remy is perfect in France. But I would toss the princesses out of Norway, Belle and Beast out of France, Aladdin and friends out of Morocco, and Donald's meet and greet out of Mexico.



I was talking more about his Meet and Greet outside the pavilion. I don't have a problem with the ride, it is much more enjoyable now than before.

If you're okay with Alice and Pooh in the UK, whats wrong with Belle and Beast in France? The Disney version of the story takes place in France does it not, soooo... why not have Belle and Beast there? :shrug:

 

[ChrisFL]

Because it has characters it's now copying the MK!?!

Epcot is part of WDW... WDW has characters... Epcot has characters... get over it!!!

Epcot was not designed to have characters...it was not designed to be an MK part 2, it was designed to be a creative, educational park for a bit of an older, more sophisticated crowd, and somehow their attendance didn't suffer until they decided to let all of the original attractions get outdated and in disrepair.

Then thought they had to change things because they couldn't figure out what to do with Epcot, so they started to change to thrill rides and make it more for the little kids, like the rest of what Disney is trying to attract these days.

Epcot didn't need Nemo, it didn't need a wonderful Norway restaurant being taken over by Princesses (and by extension, STROLLERS everywhere) for every meal of the day, it didn't need characters at every WS pavilion.

It's painfully obvious that WDW isn't about anyone unless they have little kids with them and those people who have little kids can't understand why the rest of us don't enjoy these changes.

I don't understand, like when the horrid wand was stuck onto SSE, people said "but it makes it more Disney!". Anyone who says this don't understand how Disney, meaning Walt wanted things. He didn't want Epcot to be a theme park at all, but if it was going to eventually be one, I don't think he would have wanted characters all over it either, that's what MK is for.

 

[SirGoofy]

If you're okay with Alice and Pooh in the UK, whats wrong with Belle and Beast in France? The Disney version of the story takes place in France does it not, soooo... why not have Belle and Beast there? :shrug:

Alice and Pooh originated from the UK though. They are part of the culture. I don't see Belle and Beast as the same.

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

^^I thought one of the rather large complaints when EPCOT Center first opened was the lack of characters. :veryconfu After all, no matter how much we like to think EPCOT was meant to be different, it was still a DISNEY park, and the people who went to it apparently wanted to see the characters there. :shrug:

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

Alice and Pooh originated from the UK though. They are part of the culture. I don't see Belle and Beast as the same.

Well, the person who is believed to be the first known author of BatB was French, so in that sense, it did originate in France. But even without that, the stroy takes place in France. Therefore, why not let the characters appear in the France Pavilion? Its certainly not as far a stretch as Donald in Mexico. :shrug:

 

[SirGoofy]

Well, the person who is believed to be the first known author of BatB was French, so in that sense, it did originate in France. But even without that, the stroy takes place in France. Therefore, why not let the characters appear in the France Pavilion? Its certainly not as far a stretch as Donald in Mexico. :shrug:

Oh I completely agree. But personally I don't see BatB to be as much of a cultural significance to the French as the others characters in the UK. I realize I'm probably not making the best argument, but it's just the way I feel about the situation. I don't dislike the fact that they are there as much as I dislike Aladdin and Donald, but if I had my way I'd get rid of them.

Also, I didn't know BatB was French, learn something new everyday.

 

[Captain Chaos]

Well, Donald is part of the Three Caballeros, and the Three Caballeros do represent Latin America, which, lest we all forget, Mexico is a part of... And read any of the history of the movie, and Mexico plays a huge role in the movie.. As does the Walt Disney hand picked composer, Manuel Esperon... So, to me, Donald and the Three Caballeros fit perfectly in Mexico...

 

[SirGoofy]

Well, Donald is part of the Three Caballeros, and the Three Caballeros do represent Latin America, which, lest we all forget, Mexico is a part of... And read any of the history of the movie, and Mexico plays a huge role in the movie.. As does the Walt Disney hand picked composer, Manuel Esperon... So, to me, Donald and the Three Caballeros fit perfectly in Mexico...

I'm fine with the ride. It's the Donald meet and greet that irks me. If it was a Three Cabs meet and greet I would be okay with it. But it's just Donald in a sombrero and poncho, which just screams wrong to me.

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

Well, Donald is part of the Three Caballeros, and the Three Caballeros do represent Latin America, which, lest we all forget, Mexico is a part of... And read any of the history of the movie, and Mexico plays a huge role in the movie.. As does the Walt Disney hand picked composer, Manuel Esperon... So, to me, Donald and the Three Caballeros fit perfectly in Mexico...

True. Its just that I'd rather see Panchito (who is the character from Mexico) rather than Donald. Panchito works; Donald by himself is a bit more of a stretch. just curious, do all three of the caballeros ever come out at the same time, or is it just Donald? :veryconfu

 

[Captain Chaos]

Doing some searching as to how Aladdin fits in Morocco... The original Aladdin tale has its origins in China... HOWEVER, the Disney tale is Arabic.. If you look up Morocco, you would notice, despite being part of North Africa, it is not a member of the African Union... It is, however, part of the Arab League.. I know it is a stretch, but, based on all that, Aladdin does fit...

 

[SirGoofy]

Doing some searching as to how Aladdin fits in Morocco... The original Aladdin tale has its origins in China... HOWEVER, the Disney tale is Arabic.. If you look up Morocco, you would notice, despite being part of North Africa, it is not a member of the African Union... It is, however, part of the Arab League.. I know it is a stretch, but, based on all that, Aladdin does fit...

And if you close one eye, squint with the other, and cover your ears, SGE is just as good as AE. :lol:

 

[Captain Chaos]

I'm fine with the ride. It's the Donald meet and greet that irks me. If it was a Three Cabs meet and greet I would be okay with it. But it's just Donald in a sombrero and poncho, which just screams wrong to me.

That is part of his Three Caballeros costuming though... Watch the movie.. Get the stills... In the movie, he does wear a sombrero... So, I don't see the problem...

 

[Captain Chaos]

True. Its just that I'd rather see Panchito (who is the character from Mexico) rather than Donald. Panchito works; Donald by himself is a bit more of a stretch. just curious, do all three of the caballeros ever come out at the same time, or is it just Donald? :veryconfu

True that Panchito IS the character actually from Mexico.. but, who do the kids relate to, know, and can recognize?? Donald... That's why he is there..