Snack price increases?

21stamps

Well-Known Member
I like the DDP in a very specific context. Sometimes, I travel with my parents, my sisters, or my in-laws. If we have multiple rooms, we get the dining plan on one of the rooms but not on the other, then share the credits over the course of the week. It works out to the perfect amount of food.
I purchased it last year and was happy with it. This trip we had a lot of reservations and plans that didn't accept it, so didn't make sense..especially combined with the AP discount at our hotel restaurants where we are the most.
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
I was able to get a lot of 20% off discounts with my AP this year, sadly not on alcohol. Between the food and merchandise savings it did add up though.
Yeah, the AP discounts are pretty sweet this year. We prefer an adult beverage with most TS meals, and visit several lounges during our trips, so the TiW really helps with those adult beverage costs as well. If we didn't drink, then just the AP would work fine.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
Did you not claim that when you were in Tomorrowland you bought your child a "stupid" light bulb necklace for $15? By your own admittance, you found the purchase "stupid" but you paid for it anyway. Why is that?
Because I'm not complaining about $5 Mickey Bars and if they will impact my ability to take a WDW vacation. I did downgrade my room bc it made more financial sense to me...even though I wanted the more expensive one.

It's called living within your means.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
Yeah, the AP discounts are pretty sweet this year. We prefer an adult beverage with most TS meals, and visit several lounges during our trips, so the TiW really helps with those adult beverage costs as well. If we didn't drink, then just the AP would work fine.
Do you get a discount on alcohol at Trader Sam's and at the resort pools? That alone would be worth it for me.

Trader Sam's didn't have a discount on food for an AP either.
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
Because I'm not complaining about $5 Mickey Bars and if they will impact my ability to take a WDW vacation. I did downgrade my room bc it made more financial sense to me...even though I wanted the more expensive one.

It's called living within your means.
That has nothing to do with what you were saying in terms of a child not needing to have souvenirs, character dinners, etc to be happy. In the last few days, you have posted about several of those very same extras you paid for on your recent trip. Cabana, JBJM, and one or two other up charge events that you and your child attended plus souvenirs such as the "stupid" necklace. It just seems hypocritical for you to prattle about a child not needing those things, yet your child is exempt due to the fact that your not "complaining".
 

drizgirl

Well-Known Member
And everyone is completely ignoring the REAL reason for the price increase - to make the nasty DDP look like a good deal to the masses. So they can sell more overpriced meal plans. Then that $5 Mickey bar is covered in your DDP cost and you think it's worth it then.


Wait a minute...... I thought the dining plan was high to make the high priced food look good.

I'M SO CONFUSED!!!!!!

:cool:
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
That has nothing to do with what you were saying in terms of a child not needing to have souvenirs, character dinners, etc to be happy. In the last few days, you have posted about several of those very same extras you paid for on your recent trip. Cabana, JBJM, and one or two other up charge events that you and your child attended plus souvenirs such as the "stupid" necklace. It just seems hypocritical for you to prattle about a child not needing those things, yet your child is exempt due to the fact that your not "complaining".

Why is this so difficult to understand?

People have different budgets. If the claim is "I can't go to WDW bc Mickey Bars are $5." Then buy less Mickey Bars. It's that simple. Travel how your budget dictates.

I budget a certain amount, and I stay as close as possible to that amount. That's part of being an adult and making responsible financial decisions. Stay within your budget, be willing to adjust accordingly. Regardless of if that adjusting consists of a room type or ice cream or character meal or dessert party or anything else. Purchase what you feel is "worth it".

It shouldn't be so hard to comprehend that philosophy.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
Did you not claim that when you were in Tomorrowland you bought your child a "stupid" light bulb necklace for $15? By your own admittance, you found the purchase "stupid" but you paid for it anyway. Why is that?
If anyone could figure out the answer to this question, and create something that would keep this from happening, they would be very wealthy, popular, or both.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
And everyone is completely ignoring the REAL reason for the price increase - to make the nasty DDP look like a good deal to the masses. So they can sell more overpriced meal plans. Then that $5 Mickey bar is covered in your DDP cost and you think it's worth it then.

And we have a winner!!!
I don't know... I get it in theory, but I'm not sure it makes sense in practice. Anyone who does enough research to know in advance of their trip that a premium bar is $5 is probably also savvy enough to research the value of the dining plan. I don't see this tricking anyone into purchasing the DDP that wouldn't otherwise.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
I don't know... I get it in theory, but I'm not sure it makes sense in practice. Anyone who does enough research to know in advance of their trip that a premium bar is $5 is probably also savvy enough to research the value of the dining plan. I don't see this tricking anyone into purchasing the DDP that wouldn't otherwise.
I would not say it really tricks anyone, it just helps to make the math work out in favor of it.

This is most likely why the character meals have been priced to the moon over the last decade. If you want to do Chef Mickey, Crystal Palace and 1900 Park Faire, the DDP suddenly makes financial sense.
 

Virtual Toad

Well-Known Member
If "most people" make choices to overeat and overspend at WDW, I'd say that's the fault of "most people" and not "The Walt Disney Company." That's really what this all boils down to... self control. People act like they MUST HAVE all of these things so when the price increases come, they have no way to cope other than spend more money and complain about it, as if they're obligated to do so. A lot of it stems from the fact that loads of people finance their vacations with credit card debt so they can't absorb a $1 increase in an ice cream bar. The proverbial straw will only break the proverbial camel's back if the camel is overloaded to begin with.

Woah pal, that's a huge over-generalization. My family neither overeats or overspends at WDW and the only thing I would fault myself for is risking my children leaving the parks hungry even after eating at a WDW QS. Splitting entrees and sharing drinks has become the SOP for us because 1) we're on a self-imposed budget, 2) WDW has risen their WS prices too far, too fast, and 3) the quality provided for the price paid isn't worth it anymore.

As far as financing vacations on a credit card, I can't speak for "most people"-- as we spend within our means-- but I would hazard a guess that many people are feeling the effects of rising prices and wage stagnation, not just at WDW but in society at large. Ridiculously expensive QS meals at WDW is just part of a much larger picture.
 

Luxe

Well-Known Member
I don't know... I get it in theory, but I'm not sure it makes sense in practice. Anyone who does enough research to know in advance of their trip that a premium bar is $5 is probably also savvy enough to research the value of the dining plan. I don't see this tricking anyone into purchasing the DDP that wouldn't otherwise.
Word of mouth is important to many people when planning a Disney vacation. One person may think the DDP was worth it for their trip and tell their friends/family that they should definitely do it. That family is likely going to listen to their friends because it's someone they trust rather than random people on the internet. Even though the DDP might be an awful choice for the family, they do it because a friend raves about how much easier it made their trip. Happens more often than you would expect.

Also, the DDP is likely more advantageous to Disney than the consumer because of how often people finish their vacations without spending all of their DDP points. I'm not implying they are tricking people but it definitely weighs in their favour more so than the other way around.
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
Why is this so difficult to understand?

People have different budgets. If the claim is "I can't go to WDW bc Mickey Bars are $5." Then buy less Mickey Bars. It's that simple. Travel how your budget dictates.

I budget a certain amount, and I stay as close as possible to that amount. That's part of being an adult and making responsible financial decisions. Stay within your budget, be willing to adjust accordingly. Regardless of if that adjusting consists of a room type or ice cream or character meal or dessert party or anything else. Purchase what you feel is "worth it".

It shouldn't be so hard to comprehend that philosophy.
All of that nonsense has nothing to do with your prior statement about a child not needing to have souvenirs, desert parties, snacks, etc to have a fun trip. If you truly believed that then you would have had no need to purchase those very same things for your own child, regardless of disposable income. If they don't need it, then why Did You buy them?
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
All of that nonsense has nothing to do with your prior statement about a child not needing to have souvenirs, desert parties, snacks, etc to have a fun trip. If you truly believed that then you would have had no need to purchase those very same things for your own child, regardless of disposable income. If they don't need it, then why Did You buy them?
There's a difference between "needs" and "wants." When it's a "want," you do what's in your budget only after all of your needs are satisfied.
 

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