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Smoking areas GONE starting may 1st Pinned so people can still see the announcement.
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Kman101
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You've been to WDW? They won't police much of anything, just saying ...
BigThunderMatt
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Or they could just have security passing through more in addition to the custodial teams that are frequently in there. There's enough cast member traffic through those bathrooms that you'd essentially be playing Russian roulette any time you lit up in there.
BoarderPhreak
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Exhale under the stall to your left/right? They gonna go door-to-door?
Janitor " hey are you smoking in that stall?" guest "no" Janitor "ok have a magical day"
Kman101
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They just won't police these things like you guys want. Should they?? Sure. But they won't.
I just think people are cheering this, and I get it, but it's going to create more problems than fix them .... just saying.
Stance on smoking aside, it's truly smarter of them to just keep a few smoking sections.
Sirwalterraleigh
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no you cant hate the inanimate object that does nothing until a human misues it in this case drinks well beyond what is probably neccessary to feel better
Oh dear...here we go down the rabbit hole.
First, you should hate carcinogens. There’s little debate there.
Second, and this is philosophical, but smoking is the one bad/destructive habit that often takes the others not participating’s right of avoiding it away. I believe the main reason it’s no longer popular is the fact you can’t quarantine it. You can “not have” my beer...and I can “not have” your cheeseburger grease...however I cannot “not have” the fumes unless I often take a circuitous, trailblazing path around you in a flanking pattern while factoring in wind conditions.
I have no choice...which occurred to me every time I went past the awful smoking area near the treehouse.
The reality is it’s no longer “individual rights” when it takes it away from others. Big brother will always win that scenario.
There are other - OBVIOUS - factors...especially economic in WDW...but that doesn’t really matter.
This was going to happen anyway...no debate.
Patcheslee
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Have you seen the "60 Days In" series???Exhale under the stall to your left/right? They gonna go door-to-door?
Assuming said person with a personal bonfire in the cubicle cared about being caught.
Kman101
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I can almost guarentee you there's simply one reason for this. It isn't because Disney suddenly cares about your health and second hand smoke.
Sirwalterraleigh
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I laugh at the idea that people shelling out $10,000 a week are gonna climb up into a stall and smoke menthols as opposed to just getting over it...
Is this a Motley Crue video??
Is this a Motley Crue video??
BoarderPhreak
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Look, I get it. Anti-smokers are a militant group. Even as a (now former) smoker, I get it. I didn't care for the stink either, and went out of my way to smoke respectfully and washed my hands afterwards, ate a mint, etc. A lot of smokers simply don't care either way. Just the way it is.
But unless you understand addiction, you can't simply say, "well not in my house!" People can and will find a way to get their fix, whether it offends you, is illegal or not. Some of the things I've done to smoke would probably shock your Mickey ears off. So I'll leave that for another day.
Now that there are no designated areas to point out (outside the parks is honestly laughable) Disney has opened the floodgates.
But unless you understand addiction, you can't simply say, "well not in my house!" People can and will find a way to get their fix, whether it offends you, is illegal or not. Some of the things I've done to smoke would probably shock your Mickey ears off. So I'll leave that for another day.
Now that there are no designated areas to point out (outside the parks is honestly laughable) Disney has opened the floodgates.
If you think that's a Mötley Crüe scenario, boy are you out of touch. They'd smoke right in the middle of the hub while peeing in the fountains.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I going towards “the people with the money don’t 99.9% of the time...”
...For the block
aliceismad
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The only reason I would see for Disney to make this rule is if they get a lot of complaints from guests who smell or dislike the smokers in the parks. I'm sure some will ignore the rules. I'm sure Disney will struggle to enforce it. I'm sure some CMs will get screamed at. I'm sure some CMs will turn a blind eye.
However, I do wonder if all of the moves toward no smoking are, at their core, about lawsuits now that studies have shown that not only second-hand smoke but also third-hand smoke can be hazardous to one's health.
However, I do wonder if all of the moves toward no smoking are, at their core, about lawsuits now that studies have shown that not only second-hand smoke but also third-hand smoke can be hazardous to one's health.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Anti smokers don’t need to be “militant”...they outnumber 1,000 to 1 and it grows more by the day.
It’s a mathematical question
PurpleJesus
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I don't think we're talking about the same style of vaping device. If you're thinking about one of those pens that lets out a giant plum of vapor; that's not at all what I use. I think those are ridiculous, also. But, now, there some fairly sophisticated devices that are a little smaller than a Sharpie, and b/c of the concentration level of the cartridge very little of the product is actually turned into vapor when used. What I use you couldn't even see unless you were watching me exhale, and I purposefully buy cartridges without scents so the only "odor" is the glycerin solution that serves as the vapor. I can't smell it, but if you had super great smelling ability, it would smell like sugar water.
And, completely unrelated to what we're talking about - my only point in all of this - is that instead of having smoking/vaping contained in very specific areas, Disney will now have basically gotten rid of smoking, but spread vaping all over the park. I'm not some random case of a person that will break that rule. I'd bet literally hundreds of park guests, on a daily basis, will break that rule. I'm just honest about it.
I'd bet hundreds break the rule now. But, not me, I'm a rule follower. I always used the designated areas, and actually really liked the one between Space Mountain and the train station. Oh well, I'll survive somehow I suppose...
Kman101
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LOL. It's cute you think they don't. If you aren't a smoker, you don't understand the lengths some will go for a smoke. You just don't.
Kman101
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And you know who's mostly in the smoking sections? People not from America (but they're still there too). They still smoke like it's in style (any of our British regulars want to chime in?). This is going to be a problem for Disney.
BoarderPhreak
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Do you think that I, as a (former) smoker cared one bit that 1,000 people around me didn't like it? Like I said, I didn't even necessarily "like" it. Didn't change anything.
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