Skyway Station Area Redesign

tecowdw

tecowdw

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steampunkwillie said:
I can't believe that this thread has become a discussion of men and women's bathroom habits. I was really hoping this was new news about the old skyway station area. Turns out it's just "Toilet Talk."
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Oooohh...new interactive queue for the lady's restrooms...Toilet Talk with Crush!
 
Tom

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MarkTwain said:
We literally did an entire study in gender issues in restroom design for my architecture program two years ago :lol:. The conclusions really did come down to the greater number of uses women tend to place in restrooms, and one of the solutions many designers have decided to approach recently is to give women an according amount of increased space.
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Indeed. Statistically, women perform more tasks, as a whole, than men do in the restroom. They also have a much higher average time-per-visit than men.

Victor Kelly said:
Ok that one is new to me. So what other bodily function do women have that I did not learn about in biology or anatomy class? :ROFLOL:
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Um....I would draw you a picture, but I just ran out of red ink :lookaroun

I can't believe I just typed that!

Master Yoda said:
I was always told that it breaks down to the simple math that it takes more room to sit rather than stand.
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That's one factor. You can definitely fit more urinals into a restroom than you can stalls. In most contemporary designs of commercial buildings, women's restrooms are larger in size, so that they contain more facilities than the men's. Building code only requires a certain ratio of toilets/urinals to occupants - with urinals replacing toilets up to 50% in men's restrooms - but the ratio should definitely be increased for female occupants.

MarkTwain said:
That's part of it too... and the process just takes longer. :lookaroun
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Yup. The ENTIRE process, including the vanity checks :lol:

mystical magic said:
Let's not forget all the moms (why don't Dad's ever take them in?) Do you know how much longer it takes when you have one or more children along with you? Everything takes so much longer. It wasn't too many years ago I would have to be in those little stalls together with my child putting my hand near the sensor trying to convince her the toilet wouldn't flush on her and she could go safely. Then trying to hand her the toilet paper with the other hand while in the same position. Often I failed :eek: :ROFLOL:
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I firmly believe that restrooms at highly attended facilities (like amusement parks) should offer more handicap-sized stalls than is required by code. Even at WDW, they put in the bare minimum handicap stalls and fill the place with standard 30" wide stalls. One "Family Restroom" doesn't really cut it these days, as there are far more children needing parental assistance (or supervision while parents go potty) than there are family restrooms. Widening some additional stalls, in both male and female restrooms, would significantly help moms and dads with the common and unavoidable problem of sharing a stall with kids.

NewfieFan said:
Seriously, I'm not in the bathroom discussing my husband but I usually do have kids in tow and it takes a while to do the whole process. Plus, there's hair to fix (including my daughter's), faces to wash or refresh from sweating, quick reapply of the spf lipgloss and then we're out of there! I have seen a lot of women reapplying makeup in the washrooms. I'm a pretty low maintenance gal so I'm glad I can skip the makeup step of the process!
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This brings up another point. Men go in, do their business, wash their hands (sometimes) :hurl: and head out....occasionally glancing at the mirror to make sure their fly isn't open. It's common knowledge that the female process is significantly more involved. Not only is the potty time a longer process, but the sink/mirror time is extremely more advanced. Of course, as a designer, and as someone trying to maximize the space usage in theme park restrooms, I wouldn't spend much effort accommodating the vanity needs. It's far more important to minimize the waits for the toilets and allow more people to cycle through the important part of a restroom, than it is to allow more women to check their hair.
 
danlb_2000

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So a comment about the men's room being smaller the the women's has led to a detailed analysis of male and female lavatorial habits. Gotta love these boards! :)
 
ToTBellHop

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On the Keys to the Kingdom tour on Sunday, our guide mentioned that the new walkway from Fantasyland to Liberty Square would be themed to the HM graveyard. Me likey.
 
ToTBellHop

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NewfieFan said:
I thought it was the bathrooms themed to Repunzel!?! The walkway could still be HM themed!?! :shrug:
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it stands to reason part of it should be Fantasyland themed and part should be Haunted Mansion themed...with a sensory tickle inbetween.

For what it's worth, my tour guide seemed pretty sure of what he was saying. He also admitted that he had only heard that it would be cemetery themed. But, he had heard it from multiple people. Plus, the current construction walls go right to the back right corner of the pet cemetery (will it be removed?). You can't really have a pathway that is that close to the HM themed to Rapunzel only. Rapunzel bathrooms leading to a HM-themed pathway thru a cemetery? Could work thematically and would allow for a much better transition than what we currently have.
 
NoChesterHester

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ISTCNavigator57 said:
it stands to reason part of it should be Fantasyland themed and part should be Haunted Mansion themed...with a sensory tickle inbetween.

For what it's worth, my tour guide seemed pretty sure of what he was saying. He also admitted that he had only heard that it would be cemetery themed. But, he had heard it from multiple people. Plus, the current construction walls go right to the back right corner of the pet cemetery (will it be removed?). You can't really have a pathway that is that close to the HM themed to Rapunzel only. Rapunzel bathrooms leading to a HM-themed pathway thru a cemetery? Could work thematically and would allow for a much better transition than what we currently have.
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Me likey very much. Hope that is true.
 
SobchakSecurity

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ISTCNavigator57 said:
it stands to reason part of it should be Fantasyland themed and part should be Haunted Mansion themed...with a sensory tickle in-between.
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I hope they find a way of keeping the architectural chronology in effect; we all know Liberty Square and Frontierland work in tandem from the 1690s to the 1880s, but that part of Fantasyland also worked to that effect with the Tudor and Bavarian architecture of the 16th and 17th century. The Haunted Mansion has anachronisms in areas (like its tombs) that date it to before colonial America, so cemetery transition could still work very well.
 
Tom

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ISTCNavigator57 said:
it stands to reason part of it should be Fantasyland themed and part should be Haunted Mansion themed...with a sensory tickle inbetween.
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Right. They'll have to create one of their famous land transitions. I'm anxious to see how they do it, going from a fairy tale to a graveyard....but I have high hopes.
 
ToTBellHop

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edwardtc said:
Right. They'll have to create one of their famous land transitions. I'm anxious to see how they do it, going from a fairy tale to a graveyard....but I have high hopes.
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I'm hoping for something similar in quality to the transition b/t Frontierland and Liberty Square or Main Street and Adventureland. Both are superb transitions to me.
 
Tom

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ISTCNavigator57 said:
I'm hoping for something similar in quality to the transition b/t Frontierland and Liberty Square or Main Street and Adventureland. Both are superb transitions to me.
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As long as it's better than Tomorrowland >> Fantasyland, I'll take it :lol:

But yes, I agree. And even from Liberty Square to Fantasyland is a pretty ingenious transition. You walk under the Harbor House dining area and you're magically in another land, all while the themes bleed into each other a bit.

We sure are excited about a new toilet project!
 

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