Should there be more benefits for people staying at better resorts?

[eddiemcgarrigle]

That is a poor analogy.

You are spending more due to a number of factors, first of which is more than likely the cost of your flights.

Why would someone who drove 100 miles be entitled to less perks rather than someone who flew. That simply doesn't make sense from a business perspective for TWDC at this point. They stand nothing to benefit by rewarding air travel at the moment.

Reread the post. I am more than aware that a big part of the cost of my holiday is flights and I did not say that I deserved better treatment because I travelled 4000 miles to get there. What I did say was that I did not want nor did I expect better treatment due to the amount of money I have paid or the distance I have travelled.

We all pay the same to enter the parks so we should all receive the same treatment no matter what resort we stay at, whether it be economy, moderate or deluxe. If you want better treatment in the parks feel free to pay extra for it .... in the park. Deluxe hotels have better amenities and in effect, that is what you have paid for.

 

[smk]

The statement is true, as is the statement in the link above. I can't help it I bring out responses that make people passionately take sides.

Its a level of genius.


Or maybe its because I was on the debate team in college?


Jimmy Thick- Its good being Jimmy!

A true legend in your own mind.

 

[Dave Disney]

The only benefit Id fancy is a guarantee at being in a different resort to you.

I'll second that Pumba!

 

[captainkidd]

Deluxe hotels have better amenities and in effect, that is what you have paid for.

Yes, however many of those amenities you have to pay additional for. It's just a bonus they happen to be at your resort.

 

[thewhitequeen]

Ok, I'll be more specific. I think spending $10,000 for your average family of 4 at the Grand Floridian for 7 nights is overpriced and not worth it. Look at the prices at Christmas. It's ridiculous.

 

[protiius]

I've personally yet to see a valid argument suggesting why Disney should not offer more for those willing to pay it.


Just saying.

I'm yet to see you give a good response to this argument \/

Nope. You're paying top dollar to stay at a top hotel. Your paying standard ticket prices for a theme park to get access to standard amenities when you're there.

get back to world of warcraft!

 

[zjer]

Money cannot buy some things and class is one of them.

:lol:

The frustrating part about this particular debate, is many people on here are still living off of their parents dime, so their concept of entitlements are a bit skewed.

 

[the-reason14]

Disney isn't different, you pay more and you get to stay at the deluxe hotels. Which are clearly better than the value ones. You are getting the better experience at your resort because that's what you're paying more for.

When you drop $10k for staying at the Grand Floridian, you are still paying $250 or whatever for your week long park hopper. Why should you be treated better in the park when I payed the same amount to get in?

If you want special treatment within the parks, as others have stated you must pay for it. And I agree.

Exactly, and I agree. Any perks given should be given at that resort only. What exactly could they give parkwise? Thankfully they dont do this, and hopefully never will. And dont the deluxe resort folk get a gold room key card? I know I seen this guy in front of me with one about two years ago when we were waiting for them to open fastpass for emh.

 

[wm49rs]

The statement is true, as is the statement in the link above. I can't help it I bring out responses that make people passionately take sides.

Its a level of genius.


Or maybe its because I was on the debate team in college?


Jimmy Thick- Its good being Jimmy!

Said the man with Andrew Dice Clay as an avatar.....

 

[brucie]

Any extra benefits should be at the resort itself and not in the parks.

:king:

Thats fair but i think they have that... if they are at a deluxe resort they have a benefit. Nicer rooms, better restaurants bigger better pools and a huge list of others. I usually stay at Pop which i love but it is a pretty bare bones resort... You are paying the same for the park tickets as me so the park aspect should be equal.

 

[brucie]

hmmm seems thats what everyone said.... i didn't read it all first

 

[captainkidd]

Exactly, and I agree. Any perks given should be given at that resort only. What exactly could they give parkwise? Thankfully they dont do this, and hopefully never will. And dont the deluxe resort folk get a gold room key card? I know I seen this guy in front of me with one about two years ago when we were waiting for them to open fastpass for emh.

A gold room key indicates you're staying Club Level. As someone who has stayed at both Values and Deluxes, I can assure you, the amenities you get are soley based on room size and location. There may be more restaurants to choose from, but again, it's an extra cost. Same with other recreational activities.

 

[DVC_Couple_PA]

I voted yes but with a caveat.

I agree with the sentiment that by simply staying in a deluxe resort should not entitle someone to more perks than those staying in other resorts.

However......

The folks that pay for the concierge level should be entitled to better access. One of the things you are paying that hefty premium for the concierge level is access and the concierge is supposed to have the "pull" to get you access beyond that of the average guest. By definition, that is their job. That level of service is what you are paying for. Now I am not suggesting anything extreme like special park hours or anything. But I definately think they should be entitled to something like length of stay fast passes.

Disney's version of a concierge is actually pretty poor by industry standards. First, they can only help you with things Disney. If you want to arrange Mears transportation, or dine outside of the property, etc. they are unable to help. It is the function of the concierge to be able to arrange these things for you. They don't even have any "pull" with their own dining system. The little lounge with snacks is nice, but, in the end, without the access the concierge is supposed to provide, not worth the hefty premium.

 

[disneydata]

I voted yes but with a caveat.

I agree with the sentiment that by simply staying in a deluxe resort should not entitle someone to more perks than those staying in other resorts.

However......

The folks that pay for the concierge level should be entitled to better access. One of the things you are paying that hefty premium for the concierge level is access and the concierge is supposed to have the "pull" to get you access beyond that of the average guest. By definition, that is their job. That level of service is what you are paying for. Now I am not suggesting anything extreme like special park hours or anything. But I definately think they should be entitled to something like length of stay fast passes.

Disney's version of a concierge is actually pretty poor by industry standards. First, they can only help you with things Disney. If you want to arrange Mears transportation, or dine outside of the property, etc. they are unable to help. It is the function of the concierge to be able to arrange these things for you. They don't even have any "pull" with their own dining system. The little lounge with snacks is nice, but, in the end, without the access the concierge is supposed to provide, not worth the hefty premium.

You forget about the services offered BEFORE you even arrive. The Itinerary Planning Office books all your dining, recreation, etc and can do all that for you 180 days in advance (making sure you get your CRT reservation). They can even put in special requests and send you a customized itinerary. The resort concierge can help with outside dining/transportation. What do you think the Magical Express shuttle is? Mears! Does everyone know how to do other things outside Disney? Not always. The Disney stuff is heavily trained because it has to be done a certain way.

Oh, and NO ONE has any pull in the new dining system.

 

[SleepingMonk]

I voted yes but with a caveat.

I agree with the sentiment that by simply staying in a deluxe resort should not entitle someone to more perks than those staying in other resorts.

However......

The folks that pay for the concierge level should be entitled to better access. One of the things you are paying that hefty premium for the concierge level is access and the concierge is supposed to have the "pull" to get you access beyond that of the average guest. By definition, that is their job. That level of service is what you are paying for. Now I am not suggesting anything extreme like special park hours or anything. But I definately think they should be entitled to something like length of stay fast passes.

Disney's version of a concierge is actually pretty poor by industry standards. First, they can only help you with things Disney. If you want to arrange Mears transportation, or dine outside of the property, etc. they are unable to help. It is the function of the concierge to be able to arrange these things for you. They don't even have any "pull" with their own dining system. The little lounge with snacks is nice, but, in the end, without the access the concierge is supposed to provide, not worth the hefty premium.

Agree 100%!

VIP FastPasses for club level guests should be a given.

 

[Jimmy Thick]

I still don't understand why people keep using the crutch of, you stay at a deluxe thats more for you right there.

Simply put, other hotels around the world, offer the more well to do guest more for their money. Disney does to an extent, but not enough.

Now here is an example.


Say you had a offer, if staying at a deluxe, any deluxe with a concierge level this:

Concierge service/and the little room with goodies
Deluxe resort room
ADR's anywhere you want, any time, no waiting
Special Fastpasses so you never have to wait in line
Priority seating for all fireworks.


Now think about it, if you had the chance to book a vacation with all those perks, wouldn't you rather save a couple months more than have to settle?

 

[matt_taylor1985]

I still don't understand why people keep using the crutch of, you stay at a deluxe thats more for you right there.

Simply put, other hotels around the world, offer the more well to do guest more for their money. Disney does to an extent, but not enough.

Now here is an example.


Say you had a offer, if staying at a deluxe, any deluxe with a concierge level this:

Concierge service/and the little room with goodies
Deluxe resort room
ADR's anywhere you want, any time, no waiting
Special Fastpasses so you never have to wait in line
Priority seating for all fireworks.


Now think about it, if you had the chance to book a vacation with all those perks, wouldn't you rather save a couple months more than have to settle?

I think quite alot of people wouldn't - I think Disney would be crazy to do this. Not because it doesn't seem right, but because I could imagine the outrage that people would feel.

I can see the point - if you're staying in a deluxe, you should get some extra perks because obviously you're paying more.

Things that I think should be:

* Complimentary snack basket in each room
* Preferred seating at ADR's
* Set discounts in Disney stores

Can't think of anything else, but I don't think it should be limited to Deluxe resorts. I think this is where it goes wrong. I think if you start at Value resorts, you should get certain benefits, then moving onto Moderates you get those benefits plus a few more, and then finally Deluxe resorts, even more benefits. I don't think that's necesarrily wrong.

 

[SleepingMonk]

.... Not because it doesn't seem right, but because I could imagine the outrage that people would feel..

Universal rewards resort guests with a VIP ExpressPass and they don't have any issues with riots or looting.....for the most part.

 

[fosse76]

You should definitely get more from spending more at the deluxe hotels. It just makes sense for everything else in life you spend more you get more(well not everything).

You do get more. Bigger rooms, better pools, restaurants, concierge options, better themeing, and in some cases several alternate transportation options.

I can't understand why people are saying No. Should you not get more for spending more. Should we all drive Camry's even though you might have Ferrari money. I mean I think you do get more from staying at a deluxe but not enough at all.

That, I think, depends on what you want. If by extras you mean prioroty seating in THAT resort's restaurants, or maybe free continental breakfast, then that's fine. But the OP wants unlimited FPs at the parks, unlimited access to TS restaurants at the parks, exclusive EMH for Deluxe guests at the parks. This is why people are saying no.

However I don't think the benefits should spill over into the parks at all. At least not in anyway that is obvious for others to see.

Deluxe guests shouldn't have ANY added benefits IN THE PARKS. Everyone pays the exact same amount (discounts notwithstanding). Universal is able to offer its version of FP to resort guests because 1) they only have a few hotels; 2) they offer day guests the option to purchase the passes as well and 3) they don't offer a similar after hours exclusivity to resort guests.

If you want extra park benefits, you pay for them, like everyone else. The VIP tours are expensive, but ANYONE who is willing to pay can get one. ANYONE can purchase those behind the scenes tours. Your room rate has absolutely NOTHING to do with the parks (though my understanding is that the transportation costs are built into those rates). When perks or addedd benefits affect the people who don't get those benefits, it becomes problematic. If ONLY resort guests were able to utilize the FP system, it would negatively effect day visitors, some of whom may be staying at a better hotel off-property. It would only equalize if Disney offered a pay option for off-site guests to use FP, thereby giving the choice. But considering what Disney charges for admission, I can't imagine people would be happy about it.

One of my favorite reasons for going to Disney is having the feeling of equality. There are not to many places I go that I feel treated completely equal. When I go to Disney the CM's don't seem to care what I look like.

That's exactly how it should be.

 

[Jimmy Thick]

I think quite alot of people wouldn't - I think Disney would be crazy to do this. Not because it doesn't seem right, but because I could imagine the outrage that people would feel.

I can see the point - if you're staying in a deluxe, you should get some extra perks because obviously you're paying more.

Things that I think should be:

* Complimentary snack basket in each room
* Preferred seating at ADR's
* Set discounts in Disney stores

Can't think of anything else, but I don't think it should be limited to Deluxe resorts. I think this is where it goes wrong. I think if you start at Value resorts, you should get certain benefits, then moving onto Moderates you get those benefits plus a few more, and then finally Deluxe resorts, even more benefits. I don't think that's necesarrily wrong.

Why would it be crazy?

If you were a high roller at a Vegas casino, you can have it arranged to not even have contact with the general public if you so desired.

All I would be asking for, and paying for mind you, is just a little more for my money that does not interfere with others. The offer would be available to everyone but you have to stay at a deluxe. If you can't afford the deluxe experience, you don't get the additional perks, which is fine for most people.

I truly believe if Disney offered such a thing, it would be extremely hard to get the package due to the fact everyone would want it.



I understand Disney has to keep things cheap for people, I applaud them for it, but those that can afford a higher quality experience, should be able to do so as they desire.

As I stated in a previous post, all hotels around the world cater to people willing to pay more, Disney just has to follow suit.