Seven Dwarfs Mine Train Discussion

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
You've never been to a Cedar Fair park have you?

I agree that MK is not where it used to/should be/could be. It still has a long way to go in the quality control department but that statement is a little much, isn't it?


Yes it is. Now if your ranking MK to other parks like Carowinds, Six flags, and Sea world, tell me, where do you see a decent dark ride that stands to the quality as Magic Kingdoms (dont compare PPF)

Not to mention MK is the place where kids grow up with Snow White and Cinderella, not pixar and crap like that. So I think the expansion will go over nice, I mean I already thought when I first heard about it "Oh no, Nemo's back and he's in Magic Kingdom!" :ROFLOL:Seriously, MK in my opinion is worth going to for dark rides and shows, same with Epcot. HWS and AK are pretty much up to date and HWS is on the same level as any other thrill park, except it has better rides, and AK cant be compared to any local zoo. Amen. :sohappy:
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
wait is this ride really not opening until 2013-2014? Thats really pathetic
No it isn`t. It is an attraction not originally planned, for an area not designed for an attraction.

Plus it`s being installed in an ongoing construction site.

And it`s only 2 years away.
 

Horizonsfan

Well-Known Member
Yes it is. Now if your ranking MK to other parks like Carowinds, Six flags, and Sea world, tell me, where do you see a decent dark ride that stands to the quality as Magic Kingdoms (dont compare PPF)

Not to mention MK is the place where kids grow up with Snow White and Cinderella, not pixar and crap like that. So I think the expansion will go over nice, I mean I already thought when I first heard about it "Oh no, Nemo's back and he's in Magic Kingdom!" :ROFLOL:Seriously, MK in my opinion is worth going to for dark rides and shows, same with Epcot. HWS and AK are pretty much up to date and HWS is on the same level as any other thrill park, except it has better rides, and AK cant be compared to any local zoo. Amen. :sohappy:

what? I think you misread my post.

I was making a point that the MK isn't falling way behind every other theme park on earth when compared to other parks like Cedar Fair's.
 

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
what? I think you misread my post.

I was making a point that the MK isn't falling way behind every other theme park on earth when compared to other parks like Cedar Fair's.


I didn't misread it, I just sometimes get deep in thought... dont even think about what I post... :snore:
 

Captain Neo

Well-Known Member
No it isn`t. It is an attraction not originally planned, for an area not designed for an attraction.

Plus it`s being installed in an ongoing construction site.

And it`s only 2 years away.

Not originally planned? Dude it was in the original proposal! Jim Hill has been posting info about it since as far back as Fall 2008.
 

Captain Neo

Well-Known Member
Nope it wasn't

It didn't appear on the blueprints until June 2010.


This is an article from October 9, 2008:

"Snow White" fans shouldn't fret, though. Should this part of the Fantasyland revitalization plan actually go forward, Disney's first princess would still make her home in the Magic Kingdom. Snow would just whistle while she walked over to another corner of Fantasyland. Where the Imagineers plan on installing a family-friendly coaster which will take Guests -- via mine car -- through the Seven Dwarves' diamond mine.

http://jimhillmedia.com/editor_in_c...y-world-postpones-fantasyland-s-facelift.aspx

Here is an even earlier article from July 15th. 2008:

How would you like to get through with your adventures with Ariel and Sebastian and walk out looking around the Florida sunshine basking in that new roller coaster that's been put in for Disney Fans/Geeks to ride. A roller coaster? What are you talking about? The one themed to the Seven Dwarfs, that one. Lavishly made up with details that are closer to something you'd see in Tokyo that stateside, but it's there...

http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/2008/07/blue-sky-buzz-orlando-its-just-fantasy.html

I think there are articles and forum posts from other boards that had actually talked about the snow white coaster even earlier but im too lazy to check. It was part of the original plans.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
I think there are articles and forum posts from other boards that had actually talked about the snow white coaster even earlier but im too lazy to check. It was part of the original plans.

I remember Al Lutz also talking about the mine coaster, before the Jim Hill reference in Fall '08; Lutz mentioned it in passing as a proposal for WDW as part of the "NextGen" thing.

I remember that because I distinctly remember thinking "I wonder what happened to the mine coaster concept Lutz talked about?" while sitting in the Anaheim Arena when Rasulo announced the New Fantasyland at D23 Expo in September, 2009.

And yeah, Lutz also mentioned NextGen several years ago now, before anyone really knew how big it would be. :eek:

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juan

Well-Known Member
This is an article from October 9, 2008:

http://jimhillmedia.com/editor_in_c...y-world-postpones-fantasyland-s-facelift.aspx

Here is an even earlier article from July 15th. 2008:

http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/2008/07/blue-sky-buzz-orlando-its-just-fantasy.html

I think there are articles and forum posts from other boards that had actually talked about the snow white coaster even earlier but im too lazy to check. It was part of the original plans.

I remember Al Lutz also talking about the mine coaster, before the Jim Hill reference in Fall '08; Lutz mentioned it in passing as a proposal for WDW as part of the "NextGen" thing.

I remember that because I distinctly remember thinking "I wonder what happened to the mine coaster concept Lutz talked about?" while sitting in the Anaheim Arena when Rasulo announced the New Fantasyland at D23 Expo in September, 2009.

And yeah, Lutz also mentioned NextGen several years ago now, before anyone really knew how big it would be. :eek:

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Yes it may have been in an original concept, but as for it being included in actual construction plans and not concept was June 2010.
 

Lee

Adventurer
The mine train was part of the original Blue Sky concept for Fantasyland that was pitched by Eric Jacobsen several years ago. It also included such things as a Princess and the Frog restaurant and the E-Ticket "Cartoon Corners".

None of them made it to the real planning phase, as we all saw when the first set of plans was leaked, but continued to sit on the shelf at WDI.

When the decision to cut the M&Gs was made, the mine train was chosen to take it's place, helped by the fact that the Princesses were going to have to move into SWSA.
It moved into the official plan early-ish in 2010, and made it's first appearance on blueprints in the summer.
 

Disneydreamer23

Well-Known Member
Im excited for this ride, but does any one know the truth are they tearing down snow whites scary adventures? and If they are does any one know when?
 

MotherOfBirds

Well-Known Member
Im excited for this ride, but does any one know the truth are they tearing down snow whites scary adventures? and If they are does any one know when?

They are just gutting it and renovating for the princesses, if I'm told correctly. A new ride would eventually take its place.

Did I hear correctly that the ride system would remain and a floor would be built over it?
 

docnabox

Active Member
The mine train was part of the original Blue Sky concept for Fantasyland that was pitched by Eric Jacobsen several years ago. It also included such things as a Princess and the Frog restaurant and the E-Ticket "Cartoon Corners".

None of them made it to the real planning phase, as we all saw when the first set of plans was leaked, but continued to sit on the shelf at WDI.

When the decision to cut the M&Gs was made, the mine train was chosen to take it's place, helped by the fact that the Princesses were going to have to move into SWSA.
It moved into the official plan early-ish in 2010, and made it's first appearance on blueprints in the summer.

I have seen mention of Cartoon Corners several times but I really don't know much about what it was to have been aside from generalities. Out of curiosity, what was the premise and where was it to have gone in Fantasyland?
 

aladdin2007

Well-Known Member
Do you have any idea when this is happening?

Between Fall 2011 and Winter 2012? Just guessing but heard that window thrown around a few times. And is that still the plan to build a floor over the track system and leave it in place? Some say yea some say nay to that. :shrug: But after they go through all the trouble and expense to turn it into princess hall, it will be a heck of a long time before a ride ever shows up there again.
 

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