Screamscape - New Disney Resort??

Mr. Spock

New Member
Boardwalk is my home (along with Ak villas, and saratoga). I love it's central location. Boats run to Epcot and Hs and or take the monorail from Ec to Mk. It's great.

Agreed that area is the best in all of WDW I stayed at Beach Club last August I love being able to walk to EPcot :D
 

s8film40

Well-Known Member
Agreed. I am already not happy with the DVC we are trying to book a trip in December at BLT our home resort and it is full. There should be some rooms guarennteed to members :fork:

That's weird it seems to be available the whole month to non members. Maybe they only have a certain number of room set aside for members so they can sell the rest at a full rate. I'm not too familiar with how DVC operates.
 

JWG

Well-Known Member
DVC is doing poorly enough with its Animal Kingdom sales and has such an excess inventory that it has stopped exercising its ROFR on all properties except Beach Club Villas. I highly doubt any new DVC will be built in the immediate future.

That notwithstanding, I also doubt the veracity of this rumor for the same reason as others. The only thing I see being built in the near future is more family suites, and I think no more of those will be built until the Animation Resort is built and they can gather some reliable data from its bookings.

BLT is out selling AKV, I think location is a factor. Last I heard BLT was around 60% sold in just over a year. VGC just sold out in DL and SSR was sold out/close to sold out until the THV came to be.

Though I agree, sales have slowed. I actually think the next DVC will be at the Grand Floridian as an "upscale" version. Not whatever this is. Unless, there's enough interest in the Villas at Fort Wilderness to add another building as an add-on.
 

Princess_L

Member
DVC is doing poorly enough with its Animal Kingdom sales and has such an excess inventory that it has stopped exercising its ROFR on all properties except Beach Club Villas. I highly doubt any new DVC will be built in the immediate future.

Sorry to sound silly, what does ROFR stand for?
 

JWG

Well-Known Member
Agreed. I am already not happy with the DVC we are trying to book a trip in December at BLT our home resort and it is full. There should be some rooms guarennteed to members :fork:

Why are you upset? You get a 4 month window to book your home resort 11-8 months prior to arrival. Then, all resorts are open to all DVC members at 7 months. December is a very popular time to go and it's already September.

DVC rooms and CRO rooms come from different inventory, so it's not like you lost out to a cash reservation. Being so close to the date, it's just that other owners at resorts such as SSR or OKW or AKV, etc. have decided to stay at BLT.

You can't treat a timeshare like a hotel reservation. They require booking much further in advance if you don't want to get "whatever's available".
 

Mr. Spock

New Member
Why are you upset? You get a 4 month window to book your home resort 11-8 months prior to arrival. Then, all resorts are open to all DVC members at 7 months. December is a very popular time to go and it's already September.

DVC rooms and CRO rooms come from different inventory, so it's not like you lost out to a cash reservation. Being so close to the date, it's just that other owners at resorts such as SSR or OKW or AKV, etc. have decided to stay at BLT.

You can't treat a timeshare like a hotel reservation. They require booking much further in advance if you don't want to get "whatever's available".

I am not that thrilled with DVC it was more my wife. IMO DVC members don't get enough for the amount of money.

EX: For the amount of money spent 99% of the time we should be guaranteed a room.

Also we should get some special offers and acsess in making ADR's.
 

sublimesting

Well-Known Member
I am not that thrilled with DVC it was more my wife. IMO DVC members don't get enough for the amount of money.

EX: For the amount of money spent 99% of the time we should be guaranteed a room.

Also we should get some special offers and acsess in making ADR's.


That's why we never did DVC. In theory i would LOVE to be able to come at any time and stay in a fancy resort but with annual maintenance fees it's not owrth it. I understand in the long run we would save money IF we stayed at those resorts in the first place but we always stay at POP Century and are fine with it.
 

Princess_L

Member
Right of First Refusal. Basically if a DVC member wants out of their DVC contract they can sell it to a 3rd party but have to offer Disney a chance first to buy it back.

Okay, I am probably going to sound even more silly by asking, but how often does DVC buy them back? I have see plenty on the third market. Does Disney offer you a fair price?
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
I am not that thrilled with DVC it was more my wife. IMO DVC members don't get enough for the amount of money.

EX: For the amount of money spent 99% of the time we should be guaranteed a room.

Also we should get some special offers and acsess in making ADR's.
If you did not like it then why did you buy in? My wife and I both loved the idea of the DVC but we could never make the numbers work out as a value so we did not purchase it.
 

Mr. Spock

New Member
If you did not like it then why did you buy in? My wife and I both loved the idea of the DVC but we could never make the numbers work out as a value so we did not purchase it.

I like most of it and the wife really wanted it, we could afford it and my two gripes wern't serious enough for me not to do it.

Does that make any sense? :lol:
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
I like most of it and the wife really wanted it, we could afford it and my two gripes wern't serious enough for me not to do it.

Does that make any sense? :lol:
Somewhat. Being a married man myself there are times when you have to give in despite your better judgement to do so. From what we saw DVC was a great thing if you fit the profile and played by their rules. We did neither.
 

JWG

Well-Known Member
I like most of it and the wife really wanted it, we could afford it and my two gripes wern't serious enough for me not to do it.

Does that make any sense? :lol:

Yes, because if my house I'm your wife and you are my wife :D
We just bought BLT for me and because my wife didn't have the energy to protest (it only took me 12 years of slowly eating away at her will - 2 of those years before we were even married).

To whoever asked about Right of First Refusal, Disney just buys back at whatever price you agreed to with another buyer. So, if you agree to sell your contract 3rd party to Joe for $85/point, Disney can decide to step in and buy it for that price instead. There's no downside to the seller, just to the buyer in they may not get the contract/deed.
 

Mr. Spock

New Member
Yes, because if my house I'm your wife and you are my wife :D
We just bought BLT for me and because my wife didn't have the energy to protest (it only took me 12 years of slowly eating away at her will - 2 of those years before we were even married).

To whoever asked about Right of First Refusal, Disney just buys back at whatever price you agreed to with another buyer. So, if you agree to sell your contract 3rd party to Joe for $85/point, Disney can decide to step in and buy it for that price instead. There's no downside to the seller, just to the buyer in they may not get the contract/deed.

So you are the Mirror Universe version of me do you have a beard?

Sorry can't help but make the Star Trek reference :lookaroun
 

DizFanatic

Member
I am not that thrilled with DVC it was more my wife. IMO DVC members don't get enough for the amount of money.

EX: For the amount of money spent 99% of the time we should be guaranteed a room.

Also we should get some special offers and acsess in making ADR's.

For my family DVC was a great purchase. We have 4 kids and there are not many options for us besides getting 2 rooms or booking a suite off property. But we enjoy the total Disney experience. So for us, it was not about saving money; it was about having the ability to stay in a $600 per night Disney themed apartment on property without having to shell out almost $5,000 with room tax just for our room each year. Add food & park tickets... that I could not afford. Well I guess money was a factor too.

For us it is also a big plus having to not spend a day in the laundry room doing clothes. We just dump the dirties in & head off to the parks. I agree that DVC is not for everyone, but why all the hatred. It's about choices. Disney did not force us to buy it. We went to them and asked for it.

And there is a way to get a guaranteed room 100% of the time. It's the standard time share where you get a certain week every year. My neighbors bought in Orange Lake near Animal Kingdom. Beautiful place but they're stuck with the same week every year. And I've never had a problem booking the week that I wanted since 2001. We always book far in advance to also get the best transportation prices, and to assure that I get my vacation request into work early enough.

Anyway... that's my 2 cents. Sorry to be so long winded.
 

WDWFigment

Well-Known Member
Okay, I am probably going to sound even more silly by asking, but how often does DVC buy them back? I have see plenty on the third market. Does Disney offer you a fair price?

Up until fairly recently (maybe the last four months or so), Disney exercised ROFR fairly frequently. Disney exercises this right when it deems the sales price of a contract to be too low and it buys it for the agreed upon price (so Disney isn't 'offering' anything, just substituting itself for your buyer). In theory this can have a positive affect on resale prices (at least from the perspective of a current owner who doesn't want to see the value of their purchase drop dramatically), but in order for that to be the case, Disney must exercise ROFR at least sometimes. Others theorize that the market operates independently of ROFR, and ROFR has little affect on prices. (Personally, I believe it's somewhere in the middle--ROFR influences the market, but doesn't dictate it.)

Disney ceasing to exercise ROFR--except on BCV--indicates that it has excess inventory that it doesn't believe it can easily sell. I really wish we had the money to buy more points, as now is the perfect time to buy with Disney not exercising ROFR and contract foreclosures being really high!
 

WDWFigment

Well-Known Member
I am not that thrilled with DVC it was more my wife. IMO DVC members don't get enough for the amount of money.

EX: For the amount of money spent 99% of the time we should be guaranteed a room.

Also we should get some special offers and acsess in making ADR's.

I would almost guarantee that you're able to book SSR or OKW right now.

Do you mean being guaranteed the ability to book BLT? That simply isn't possible. You would have to lose the luxury of being able to book different resorts, be limited to certain weeks, or you'd pay an exponentially higher amount for your membership. If you're good at planning ahead 7-11 months, DVC works like a charm. We certainly love it!
 

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