AvengersWDW
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Lol so sad...Apple is in the right for being profit driven but Disney should be in the red? God you got to love the lack of logic of the anti-WDW crowd
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Lol so sad...Apple is in the right for being profit driven but Disney should be in the red? God you got to love the lack of logic of the anti-WDW crowd
zooey
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I know, right?
AvengersWDW
Banned
trollolololololol
HMButler79
Member
You heard it here people! "If it's good enough for Six Flags.." still lives in the Tower of Isengard! (TDO). :brick:
Prototype82
Well-Known Member
this.
miles1
Active Member
From what I've read around here, JC has needed infrastructure repairs forever. For me, the appeal of Disney attractions is in the little details. It feels like each time I visit WDW fewer and fewer effects are working on JC, BTM and Spash. Some vanish completely and don't return. King Louie has been missing for decades! (Just kidding, please don't kill me!)
I think that the last big refurb of HM proved that maintaining existing effects, adding some new ones here and there, and keeping the place clean (or dirty, in this case) will keep things interesting enough to attract old and new riders without compromising the classic flavor of the ride. The Star Tours refurb took a stale ride and turned it back into a major attraction at the Studios.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Being driven by profit is not the problem or what my point is about. It's about how you measure that success. Apple products can sell for their prices because the company sells the products as an experience greater than the combined technical specifications. You disagree that it is a worthwhile cost. But it does not matter, because that is how they operate there is no Apple Stores divion doing everything it can, including cutting, to increase profits while an iPod division is doing likewise. Apple is Apple and that is what they sell.
Other people think themed entertainment is just a bunch of fake stuff. But Disneyland and Walt Disney World sold something greater than the mass of fake stuff. But as it stands Disney does have Walt Disney World fractured with different divisions all competing against each other.
HMButler79
Member
Cause when you go from SixFlags, Carowinds, Cedar Point et al, to 2012 WDW, of COURSE your gonna be happy and lap it up cause you don't know anything other than that. I bet guests were happy going to DL during the dark days of '95-'03......
AvengersWDW
Banned
Kicking TDO's butt is very subjective....for awesome Forbidden Journey you have the horrible Rip Ride Rockit, the Dueling Dragons paintjob, the Despicable Me rehash 4D attraction, The Simpsons Paintjob....
AvengersWDW
Banned
Jungle Cruise is my favorite attraction. I think an update would not be a bad idea at all. Hopefully the BTM refurb addresses some of the issues
HMButler79
Member
If Queen Meg can STILL be there after the Mono death and the countless bus deaths/accidents, after Cynthia was shown the door after the Thunder accidents, then i don't see the Staggs/Iger mafia moving her. The Mono death should have been her "family time" time.............
zooey
Well-Known Member
Well that was fun, but seriously, you misunderstand the "anti-WDW" crowd (a misnomer). We actually love WDW and probably have loved it longer than you have and also know more about the company and park history than you do, and we have a problem with the current direction. It has nothing to do with hating on the parks as if we want them to fail. It's completely the opposite. We love the parks and therefore want them to succeed by making good decisions and following their core creative culture that has since been lost or at the very least impeded upon by competitors.
And if you can't understand that, then perhaps you have yet to experience the dark night of the Disney soul where you come to terms with the reality of the parks and their trajectory.
I love WDW. I love Walt Disney. I love Disneyland. I love TWDC and it's many, many IPs. This coming from a guy who has paid 200 dollars for a one-day excursion to Marceline with D23 next week. But, realistically, WDW has massive, major problems that are happening BEHIND the scenes. When I say that it is en route to hit rock bottom, I'm not saying that the parks are closing tomorrow, or that such a reverberation will even be evident outside of a few years minimum, but rather that the executive, managerial side of TDO and higher up is fundamentally broken because they've changed the philosophies that were set before them regarding how these parks should be run and developed.
HMButler79
Member
Shhhh! Make sure Avenger (Merfie? Corrus?) dosen't hear you! He'll think we'll start some Disney purist version of storming the Bastille on TDO. We can't criticize Avanegers All Mighty Ordained Rulers. HER IMPERIAL MAJESTY QUEEN MEGARA AND LORD IGER! Avenger lives to serve Thier Highnesses!
:lol:
AvengersWDW
Banned
Apple is completely different from Disney since they are not even close to being the same type of business. It is easy for a company that only has one division, electronics, to not have competition for funds. Disney has 30 different divisions that all need funding. Look at Sony, you can bet your bottom dollar the music and movies division compete for funds.
Apple is driven for profit.
Disney is driven for profit.
All corporations are....it is pointless to not. If Disney did not care they would not have the money to do anything let alone what you want them to do.
HMButler79
Member
Kicking TDO's butt is very subjective....for awesome Forbidden Journey you have the horrible Rip Ride Rockit, the Dueling Dragons paintjob, the Despicable Me rehash 4D attraction, The Simpsons Paintjob....[/QUOTE]
have the horrible Rip Ride Rockit (Everest), the Dueling Dragons paintjob (Barnstormer/Goofini Paintjob), the Despicable Me rehash 4D attraction (Star Tours Rehash, The Simpsons Paintjob (Space Mt. Paintjob).
ROLL DICE PLAY AGAIN HUNEY!
devoy1701
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Apple charges what the market lets them charge. And the almost cult-like loyalty to Apple keeps those prices high. Apple delivers the products that the public wants (or thinks they wants) and they do a damn good job at it. And they purposely sacrifice having the latest technology (or as you say use inferior technology) not because they're trying to rip people off, but simply because it's easier to use and they can bundle it up into pretty little packages. Apple lets the other companies experiment with new techs on the market and puts it in the next release once the kinks have been worked out...again in a pretty little package. It keeps the devices easy to use and the consumers love it. It's a great business model that has worked well for them. Otherwise they wouldn't be making revenues of $500Billion. And to make that kind of revenue you have to be offering something that the consumer wants. You don't just make it because you decide that you just want to chase profits and charge outrageous prices. If people really thought the devices were overpriced, people wouldn't be buying them.
It has nothing to do with what market sector Apple or Disney is in, and it definitely has nothing to do with how many divisions a company has (Apple has more than 1 division, mind you). Apple (today), and Disney (of the past) are infact very similar in that both have proven that you can be successful if you focus on the consumer and deliver what they expect, not by chasing profits.
trr1
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I guess my daughter and I are nobodies we watched it and both of us enjoyed it
devoy1701
Well-Known Member
Well said. But he's never going to "get it" because he doesn't want to get it. I don't even know why I continue to respond to the nonsense.
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
You really shouldn't. You are just feeding the beast. Remember the old saying about feeding the trolls?
If we ignore it - it will go away.
AvengersWDW
Banned
I dont misunderstand anything. You can love a company and point out the flaws but you dont do that you just hate and hate and spew anger. Your points are rarely valid and you try to act like the whole world agrees with you.
You want them to do what YOU want and not what is good for the PUBLIC. YOU think they are failing when that is not the case. You haters have such tunnel vision you think your way is the only way. Not to mention you guys have no experience running a multi-billion dollar international corporation.
A person who truely loves the parks does not just spout negatives and make baseless claims like you.
I live in the real world unlike you and i can see the REAL trejectory of the company and no it is not heading to the bottom.
I love Disney, he is an idol of mine but sorry his view on business is a faulty one. If the company followed his vision it would of been closed down 20 years ago. There is a reason why Walt did not run the business side since he did not truely understand how to run a business. Look at the mid-eighties where the company was almost bought out and broken up into parts because of the Walt's practices