AvengersWDW
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If you honestly think that Apply focuses on the consumer then you dont know anything about them. You talk about Disney in the past being a success...you mean the three or four times they almost went under, or were bought out?
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If you honestly think that Apply focuses on the consumer then you dont know anything about them. You talk about Disney in the past being a success...you mean the three or four times they almost went under, or were bought out?
AvengersWDW
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I was being sarcastic
AvengersWDW
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Got to love the logic...if you like Disney you are a troll...if you hate on WDW with lies and no logic you are not a troll. Maybe if you guys would make valid points and not just illogical hate filled rants i would not have to so call "troll"...you dont even know what a troll is
HMButler79
Member
DING DING DING! We have a winner folks! The Burbank/Orlando meme of "Walt was a hick and his philosophy no longer applies" ........Even though it worked for FORTY YEARS. And the whole early 80s corporate raider drama??? It was because the LIVE ACTION side was dragging the WHOLE company down with it and they had spent two billion on EPCOT Center. Everyone is right. We need to ignore your insane moderist Disney views. Walt is NOT your idol. You JUST dissed the mans views and how he ran the parks. Your idol is Steve Jobs and Bob Iger and Tom Staggs and Jay Rasulo.
thehowiet
Wilson King of Prussia
Agreed. I was very close to doing the same, but then realized it was pointless for the same reason you just stated.
AvengersWDW
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Love the logic:
Spout lies, misinformation, hate and sheer ignorance that means you LOVE WDW
Stay optimistic, use reason, logic, facts. Talk about how not every part of WDW sucks and that means you are a troll...
I truely pity the haters here because to live life like they do is sad.
Spout lies, misinformation, hate and sheer ignorance that means you LOVE WDW
Stay optimistic, use reason, logic, facts. Talk about how not every part of WDW sucks and that means you are a troll...
I truely pity the haters here because to live life like they do is sad.
devoy1701
Well-Known Member
It was absolutely NOT Walt's business practices that almost destroyed the company. It was the fact that Walt was such a huge part of virtually every aspect of the company and ingrained within the culture that without any clear successor or action plan the company and the leaders had no idea what to do next. They kept second guessing everything by trying to think what Walt would have done instead of keep moving forward and continue to innovate. Walt's lack of "business knowledge" and separation of the creative and financial sides of running the company is exactly what made the company so successful!
And while no one can indeed say what would have happened if Walt had been able to live another 20 years and he might have indeed run the company to the ground, what he could have accomplished would have been astonishing, and I would have loved if he had had the chance to do so. And I wouldn't have been surprised if he had come out successful.
Lord knows this world would be a much better place had it had Walt for another 20 years.
AvengersWDW
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Got to love when the trolls band together...it is quite funny and sad.
Continue to hate...i will continue to be correct
trr1
Well-Known Member
did you watch it ?
AvengersWDW
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It was absolutely NOT Walt's business practices that almost destroyed the company. It was the fact that Walt was such a huge part of virtually every aspect of the company and ingrained within the culture that without any clear successor or action plan the company and the leaders had no idea what to do next. They kept second guessing everything by trying to think what Walt would have done instead of keep moving forward and continue to innovate. Walt's lack of "business knowledge" and separation of the creative and financial sides of running the company is exactly what made the company so successful!
And while no one can indeed say what would have happened if Walt had been able to live another 20 years and he might have indeed run the company to the ground, what he could have accomplished would have been astonishing, and I would have loved if he had had the chance to do so. And I wouldn't have been surprised if he had come out successful.
Lord knows this world would be a much better place had it had Walt for another 20 years.
I would of loved to see what innovations Walt would of came up with if he lived another 20 years but i would of needed Roy to stay with him to keep him in check which was the way that they succeeded.
Todays business world is completely different too. I dont know how Walt would succeed in a multinational company
devoy1701
Well-Known Member
i fell for it one last time. His comment on Walt rubbed me the wrong way. Funny how all of the years I spent studying the guy and his business practices and leadership style for my thesis never led me to the conclusion that his way of running the company was fundamentally flawed and led to the almost collapse of the enterprise. I must have missed it.
Anyway. Time to make use of the Ignore button now.
AvengersWDW
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Yes, thought the visuals were stunning and was the best use of 3D...story was meh
zooey
Well-Known Member
It was absolutely NOT Walt's business practices that almost destroyed the company. It was the fact that Walt was such a huge part of virtually every aspect of the company and ingrained within the culture that without any clear successor or action plan the company and the leaders had no idea what to do next. They kept second guessing everything by trying to think what Walt would have done instead of keep moving forward and continue to innovate. Walt's lack of "business knowledge" and separation of the creative and financial sides of running the company is exactly what made the company so successful!
And while no one can indeed say what would have happened if Walt had been able to live another 20 years and he might have indeed run the company to the ground, what he could have accomplished would have been astonishing, and I would have loved if he had had the chance to do so. And I wouldn't have been surprised if he had come out successful.
Lord knows this world would be a much better place had it had Walt for another 20 years.
Exactly. Once caveat, Walt was actually a great businessman. Nobody could drum up enthusiasm for a project like Walt. Walt was a RISKY businessman, and that's where his brother, and others, would reel him in with reality. But, Walt still had a high risk / reward attitude and fortunately it paid off many times for him (though sometimes that payoff only came a decade later).
For the Avengers dude to say that Walt's way is somehow antiquated is not correct. Capitalism hasn't really changed much. TWDC has changed, replacing guest experience as job one with profits. That philosophy has had a trickle down effect through the entire company and now it is finally hurting their creative.
AvengersWDW
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i fell for it one last time. His comment on Walt rubbed me the wrong way. Funny how all of the years I spent studying the guy and his business practices and leadership style for my thesis never led me to the conclusion that his way of running the company was fundamentally flawed and lead to the almost collapse of the enterprise. I must have missed it.
Anyway. Time to make use of the Ignore button now.
Ignoring people who dont buy into your delussional state...how very mature...but then again you wish everyone in TDO was fired and homeless
AvengersWDW
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I can name atleast 30 companies that are no longer around that would agree that capitalism has changed. You guys talked about Apple, that is proof that a company with a bad product is outselling companies that make much superior products. It is no longer a US economy but a global one so it is hard to say how Walt would of dealt with that
JustInTime
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So...what do the insiders say about this?
I am not happy. we won't get anything if canceled.
I am not happy. we won't get anything if canceled.
AvengersWDW
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According to '74 the project is on lifesupport
Rasvar
Well-Known Member
If John Carter fails, it is because of Disney's inept marketing. One of the best Sci-Fi movies I have seen in a while. Deserved 1000 times better marketing program.
With that said, JC is zero fit for Animal Kingdom. I just don't see a way for the theme to fit.
Captain Chaos
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Ok, so where were we in this discussion??? Ahh possibility of Avatar being cancelled. Ok, continue
