CookieMouse
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I think I will manage Tomorrowland, as it is my favorite land, and I have the most fleshed out plans for it than any of the other rides proposed for the land.
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SA VI Stanza X: Disney Royale! Open Brainstorming Thread
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NateD1226
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Looking at this, it seems we have an amazing line up of rides and entertainment. Here are some of my thoughts about some of the things that have been said.
-The idea for a Frozen coaster is not my favorite. I love a good coaster but it seems like Frozen is a bit overdone in the parks.
-Scary Dark Ride should be either Mr. Toad or Sleeping Beauty.
-101 Dalmatians ride sounds amazing!
-i LOVE the idea of Mrs. Potts teacup ride and would totally want to work on that.
-To me, the Winnie the Pooh ideas are fun but they seem out of place. I know most parks have them in Fantasyland but it just doesn't scream fantasy to me.
-I can also do the miscellaneous such as shops and restaurants!
mickeyfan5534
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Some mini pitches for entertainment:
Ever After Happily (working title) seems to be set in stone as a daytime parade which makes me happy
I was able to dig up some old ideas for other entertainment that never really developed past a name or a concept:
A night parade centered around a stained glass aesthetic
Disney Fantasy: A Kiss Goodnight: I think this was a nighttime show
Mickey and the Music Box: I know someone had the idea for a Mickey and the ____ show in Fantasyland. I think a Music Box would be a cool main set piece.
Disney Carnivale: Not sure what this was.
Enchanted Fairytale Ball: I do remember this concept decently well. It was somewhere between streetmosphere and stage show and involved the Princesses and Princes.
Shine - A Celebration of Magic: Don't remember what this one was.
An event centered around the lands of the park and their denizens.
Ever After Happily (working title) seems to be set in stone as a daytime parade which makes me happy
I was able to dig up some old ideas for other entertainment that never really developed past a name or a concept:
A night parade centered around a stained glass aesthetic
Disney Fantasy: A Kiss Goodnight: I think this was a nighttime show
Mickey and the Music Box: I know someone had the idea for a Mickey and the ____ show in Fantasyland. I think a Music Box would be a cool main set piece.
Disney Carnivale: Not sure what this was.
Enchanted Fairytale Ball: I do remember this concept decently well. It was somewhere between streetmosphere and stage show and involved the Princesses and Princes.
Shine - A Celebration of Magic: Don't remember what this one was.
An event centered around the lands of the park and their denizens.
Brer Panther
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Would we be doing ride-throughs for each ride, or just a brief description?
spacemt354
Chili's
So here's why I suggest to not go too overboard with what should be an opening day park.
Because it will allow is to give ride throughs and detailed info on the layout without having to detail like 30 attractions
Yes this project is due in a week but we can set the due date back if we want. And we can continue to expand the park over time
CookieMouse
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Maybe for certain ones we’d do detailed ones, and for less important rides like flat rides and walkthroughs, we would do brief descriptions.
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A full ride through or two is always nice, but the main focus should just be on the park as a whole. Brief descriptions are fine.
Also, WOW! Six Pages already! A lot to catch up on! I have some thoughts.
Change Fantasyland into Fantasy Gardens! Keep the focus on naturalistic styles and meadows and flowers and trees. Very colorful, little focus on European architecture.
Split Adventureland into two sections: Adventure City and Jungle of Wonders! Jungle of Wonders is the very India/Jungle Book Adventureland, possibly with a Latin Subland. Adventure City is a more modern Adventureland set in a NYC/San Fran style city with Marvel attractions and maybe some clones from MGM. Possibly some other more modern IP like Big Hero 6, Toy Story, Incredibles, etc. Plus, the city could have the more "science" based sci-fi while Tomorrowland focuses on the more fantasy and intergalactic side of Sci-Fi!
Skyline Hotel! To help add a City Skyline to Adventure city, it can have a hotel wrapped around the outside themed as a big city skyline.
Small World Main Street! I adore the idea of Small World as the park entrance! I say we take that idea further and make all of Main Street into a very whimsical, bright, colorful storybook come to life avenue inspired by Mary Blair Art like the Small World facade. Maybe call it Storybook Avenue? Possibly even with a Peter Pan ride here instead of in Fantasyland?
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Overall, I am super impressed with how many amazing ideas we have already! It is fantastic to see!
D Hulk
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Not sure if this is the best approach to winnowing things down, but I've made up a comparison of Mumbai Disneyland's attraction roster vs. the two most recent Castle Parks. (Working from memory rather than referencing official lists.) Keep in mind both Shanghai and Hong Kong have added things since they've opened. Bold means ride.
Note that I'm being very vague with some Mumbai descriptions (though we've already assigned 1 or more ideas to these vague things), and I'm making a few editorial decisions. Generally, we seem to have a pretty reasonable opening day park here, slightly heavy on the rides vs. the other parks and slightly light on the other sorts of attractions.
| SHANGHAI DISNEYLAND | HONG KONG DISNEYLAND | MUMBAI DISNEYLAND |
| GARDENS - Carousel | MAIN STREET - Railroad | MAIN STREET - Railroad |
| GARDENS - Dumbo | FANTASYLAND - Winnie the Pooh | MAIN STREET - it's a small world |
| FANTASYLAND - Honey Pots | FANTASYLAND - it's a small world | FANTASYLAND - Tangled E-ticket |
| FANTASYLAND - Winnie the Pooh | FANTASYLAND - Dumbo | FANTASYLAND - Dark ride A |
| FANTASYLAND - Peter Pan | FANTASYLAND - Tea Party | FANTASYLAND - Dark ride B |
| FANTASYLAND - Seven Dwarfs Mine Train | FANTASYLAND - Carousel | FANTASYLAND - Dark ride C |
| FANTASYLAND - Crystal Grotto | ADVENTURELAND - Jungle River Cruise | FANTASYLAND - Dumbo variant |
| ADVENTURE - Roaring Rapids | ADVENTURELAND - Rafts to Treehouse | FANTASYLAND - Mrs. Potts teacups |
| ADVENTURE - Soaring | GRIZZLY - Big Grizzly | FANTASYLAND - Additional flat ride |
| PIRATE COVE - POTC: Battle for the Sunken Treasure | MYSTIC POINT - Mystic Manor | FANTASYLAND - Mine Train variant |
| PIRATE COVE - Canoes | TOMORROWLAND - Space Mountain | ADVENTURELAND - Jungle Book ride |
| TOMORROWLAND - TRON | TOMORROWLAND - Orbitron | ADVENTURELAND - Fire Mountain (or other sort of coaster) |
| TOMORROWLAND - Buzz Lightyear | TOMORROWLAND - Iron Man Experience | ADVENTURELAND - Tarrant Rahm |
| TOMORROWLAND - Jet Packs spinner | TOMORROWLAND - Ant-Man shooter | ADVENTURELAND - Big Boats??? |
| TOY STORY LAND - RC Racer | TOMORROWLAND - Autopia (closed, to be replaced with an Avengers E-ticket) | ADVENTURELAND OR TOMORROWLAND - Haunted Mansion variant |
| TOY STORY LAND - Woody's Roundup | TOY STORY LAND - RC Racer | TOMORROWLAND - Space Mountain variant |
| TOY STORY LAND - Slinky Dog | TOY STORY LAND - Slinky Dog | TOMORROWLAND - Spinner ride |
| MICKEY AVENUE - Mickey Theater | TOY STORY LAND - Parachute tower | TOMORROWLAND - Ralph shooter |
| MICKEY AVENUE - Daytime parade | MAIN STREET - Art of Animation | TOMORROWLAND - Avengers E-ticket |
| GARDENS - Castle stage show | MAIN STREET - Daytime parade | MAIN STREET - Mickey Theater M&G |
| GARDENS - Nighttime castle spectacular | MAIN STREET - Nighttime parade | MAIN STREET - Daytime parade |
| GARDENS - Avengers M&G (flex space) | MAIN STREET - Nighttime castle spectacular | MAIN STREET - Castle stage show |
| FANTASYLAND - Princess M&G (castle) | FANTASYLAND - Fantasy Forest | MAIN STREET - Nighttime castle spectacular |
| FANTASYLAND - Snow White walkthrough | FANTASYLAND - Philharmagic | FANTASYLAND - Philharmagic 2.0 |
| FANTASYLAND - Alice maze | FANTASYLAND - Fantasyland Theater | FANTASYLAND - Fantasyland Theater (Mickey & the Music Box) |
| FANTASYLAND - Fantasyland Theater | ADVENTURELAND - Lion King show | FANTASYLAND - Princess M&G (in castle?) |
| ADVENTURE - Ropes course | ADVENTURELAND - Leaky Tikis | ADVENTURELAND - Adventureland Theater |
| ADVENTURE - Tarzan theater | ADVENTURELAND - Swiss Family Robinson | TOMORROWLAND - Tomorrowland Theater |
| PIRATE COVE - Pirate stunt show | GRIZZLY - Grizzly Geysers | TOMORROWLAND - Flex space (more Avengers things like a M&G?) |
| PIRATE COVE - Pirate ship walkthrough | MYSTIC POINT - Garden of Wonders | |
| PIRATE COVE - Beach playground | ADVENTURELAND - Big flex space building | |
| TOMORROWLAND - Stitch Encounter | TOMORROWLAND - Jedi outdoor stage | |
| TOMORROWLAND - Star Wars M&G (flex space) | ||
| TOMORROWLAND - Outdoor stage | ||
Outbound
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I have made a map of our initial thoughts. It's helped tremendously to get the idea onto paper.
What I quickly found was a more direct port of the Taj Mahal's Islamic Gardens wouldn't work as a central hub, as the 90-degree turns would be very off-putting to guests. To rectify this, I have made a subtle circle. The original plan remains, but guests are now guided along the outer path. There is another path (two per side, actually) that take you across the gardens, which are then surrounded by two water streams, one in the very middle, and the other surrounding some gardening.
We could probably "save" the square by building shops or restaurants in the corners. Then add some walls and minarets to build a self-contained land.
Next up I went to address Adventureland. I suggest splitting up Adventureland into 3-4 mini lands, with "Miniland A" being a village that serves as your "base camp" before journeying to various jungles abound.
I would also like to build on Pi's idea for "Adventure City"... but I would place it near Tomorrowland rather than the jungle. I think it would blend the two lands together well. I'm thinking a central park area with facades all around. The Fantasyland - Adventureland's blend land could possibly be a Peter Pan themed area (without the London references).
I didn't know much to do with Tomorrowland or Fantasyland, so I more mapped out areas for them to go, rather than fully developing them.
What I quickly found was a more direct port of the Taj Mahal's Islamic Gardens wouldn't work as a central hub, as the 90-degree turns would be very off-putting to guests. To rectify this, I have made a subtle circle. The original plan remains, but guests are now guided along the outer path. There is another path (two per side, actually) that take you across the gardens, which are then surrounded by two water streams, one in the very middle, and the other surrounding some gardening.
We could probably "save" the square by building shops or restaurants in the corners. Then add some walls and minarets to build a self-contained land.
Next up I went to address Adventureland. I suggest splitting up Adventureland into 3-4 mini lands, with "Miniland A" being a village that serves as your "base camp" before journeying to various jungles abound.
I would also like to build on Pi's idea for "Adventure City"... but I would place it near Tomorrowland rather than the jungle. I think it would blend the two lands together well. I'm thinking a central park area with facades all around. The Fantasyland - Adventureland's blend land could possibly be a Peter Pan themed area (without the London references).
I didn't know much to do with Tomorrowland or Fantasyland, so I more mapped out areas for them to go, rather than fully developing them.
CookieMouse
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I think in iasw we should incorporate small drops, to add a little thrill, but still keep it accessible to the little ones.
Outbound
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This is a pretty interesting concept, but imo it would take away from a lot of what made the original so iconic - the peaceful happy world cruise. Still a neat idea.
CookieMouse
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What I meant was like a drop to transition from one scene to another, like going over a small waterfall in the amazon, and that would be about it.
Brer Panther
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Wouldn't it be against the "no clones" rule to have an It's a Small World?
mickeyfan5534
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We could also take the Disneyland Paris route and put stages and some gardens in the corners. That would also clean up the front of the castle and be a nice challenge for producing a daytime stage show.
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mickeyfan5534
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I love this name. I adore this name. Make it canon.
Orange Cat
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Not if we make it from the ground-up (or as close as it can be)
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Yeah, there needs to be a decent twist to it. Something that makes it a different ride.
Maybe something like "Storybook Cruise Around the World!" It could be a fake boat trackless dark ride like Aquatopia and weave through rooms in a different path every time maybe? Something that is very roughly like this kind of thing. Different colored paths go through rooms in different orders. Again, super rough sketch of it.
spacemt354
Chili's
I really like this outline! It puts in perspective really what we should be aiming for not only so we don't overwork ourselves but so we have a realistic look at opening day MK style parks.
spacemt354
Chili's
I know theres a lot of people with a lot of different thoughts but now kight be a good time to pause and just ask everyone individually
Based on all we've talked about, Mumbai Disneyland, the possible layout, etc - is there one thing you would want to see in the project above all else?
If we can assemble a list of everyone's 'must-do' aspects itll give us a better sense of how to morph the park together and make it easier to divide who does what
Based on all we've talked about, Mumbai Disneyland, the possible layout, etc - is there one thing you would want to see in the project above all else?
If we can assemble a list of everyone's 'must-do' aspects itll give us a better sense of how to morph the park together and make it easier to divide who does what