Rumor: Tomorrowland name change

[Pi on my Cake]

There was a TomorrowLand film?

Cane out like 2 years ago starring George Clooney. I really liked it, but even I would call it very forgetable. It is worth watching and had some good ideas, but it's not great. It's not the worst movie based on the Disney parks though lol.

 

[SpaceMountain77]

I always liked the idea of Future World becoming Discovery Showcase to mirror World Showcase. If Discovery is used, I prefer that it be reserved for Epcot.

 

[Disney4family]

I feel like the audio would end up sounding like "-ovary" instead of "-overy"...

I was just going to say that. Two days in a row of reading this and all I see is "ovary".

 

[Daveeeeed]

Cane out like 2 years ago starring George Clooney. I really liked it, but even I would call it very forgetable. It is worth watching and had some good ideas, but it's not great. It's not the worst movie based on the Disney parks though lol.

That's not high praise at all. Country Bear Jamboree & The Haunted Mansion. Although The Haunted Mansion was watchable simply due to it bein gThe Haunted Mansion, same goes with Tomorrowland. Tomorrowland had good ideas but failed miserably in execution. I mean why on Earth would they have the move as a road trip??? 6/10 for me, but severely disappointing. Nothing like Pirates with its incredible ending.
Though Disney is only to blame, should have never been approved with that script, but even with that, that is not an excuse not to update Tomorrowland. All the rides, especially SM & The PeopleMover need an update. All buildings repainted, and a new high capacity e-ticket has to come. I mean come on, The last one added was Splash Mountain.

 

[WondersOfLife]

I'm all for the new Discoveryland idea if the land keeps getting cool little upgrades it has been getting these past couple of years.

 

[Rteetz]

You know, you are just making that up, don't you?

He makes everything up.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

I was just going to say that. Two days in a row of reading this and all I see is "ovary".

Dez Covery. Paging Mr. Dez Covery.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

Wait, are you saying TDO now determines what DL spends on capital projects?

Seems unlikely.

In development for SWL when TDO & TDA worked together as "One Disney" TDO pulled their trump card and got the third attraction removed because they didn't wanna pay for it.

 

[DisneyGentlemanV2.0]

Given that a scaled-down train runs through it, I vote for Plasticville…

… then we can hope for the twin city of Silicone Junction.

 

[Cesar R M]

If Disney could harness the power of his spin they could power the entire resort off it.

Pretty sure its not needed. Walt's spinning head is powering half the US by now.

 

[marni1971]

Wait, are you saying TDO now determines what DL spends on capital projects?

Seems unlikely.

Do some research. It's on these boards. The sorry saga of the axed third attraction. And who's to blame.

I'm so glad you're still here. We need some humour.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Not surprising that TDO had a hand in the cuts even in California. There has been a desire to keep projects 1:1 clones between parks. TDO has a rep for their aversion to spending (Fantasyland Expansion was forced on them, and they still influenced massive slashes to the budget). I've no doubt they balked at the Star Wars budget and brought their objections to the top.

I can also imagine it being easy to convince bean counters in California to cut budgets. In wanting to keep projects identical, any cuts made to placate TDO execs would also be applied to Disneyland.

Micechat claims TDA want to neuter TDO's influence on their projects. Though I wonder if this is more due to ego and power rather than quality concerns. TDO having power to dictate budgets and lobotomize projects thousands of miles outside their jurisdiction is absurd and makes the CA execs look weak.

Getting into conspiracy territory, I wonder if this is why Chapek flew a group of TDO execs out to Disneyland to "teach them how to PROPERLY run a theme park". I'm skeptical that this will actually improve WDW. But it's still a symbolic message from Cali execs to TDO regarding where they stand in the pecking order, and that their influence over higher execs will no longer be allowed.

Do you think there's any truth to the last two paragraphs Martin, or am I way off?

 

[jt04]

Not surprising that TDO had a hand in the cuts even in California. There has been a desire to keep projects 1:1 clones between parks. TDO has a rep for their aversion to spending (Fantasyland Expansion was forced on them, and they still influenced massive slashes to the budget). I've no doubt they balked at the Star Wars budget and brought their objections to the top.

I can also imagine it being easy to convince bean counters in California to cut budgets. In wanting to keep projects identical, any cuts made to placate TDO execs would also be applied to Disneyland.

Micechat claims TDA want to neuter TDO's influence on their projects. Though I wonder if this is more due to ego and power rather than quality concerns. TDO having power to dictate budgets and lobotomize projects thousands of miles outside their jurisdiction is absurd and makes the CA execs look weak.

Getting into conspiracy territory, I wonder if this is why Chapek flew a group of TDO execs out to Disneyland to "teach them how to PROPERLY run a theme park". I'm skeptical that this will actually improve WDW. But it's still a symbolic message from Cali execs to TDO regarding where they stand in the pecking order, and that their influence over higher execs will no longer be allowed.

Do you think there's any truth to the last two paragraphs Martin, or am I way off?

A conspiracy inside an enigma inside a conundrum 3-D puzzle.

What tangled webs the spirited acolytes weave.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

That's not high praise at all. Country Bear Jamboree & The Haunted Mansion. Although The Haunted Mansion was watchable simply due to it bein gThe Haunted Mansion, same goes with Tomorrowland. Tomorrowland had good ideas but failed miserably in execution. I mean why on Earth would they have the move as a road trip??? 6/10 for me, but severely disappointing. Nothing like Pirates with its incredible ending.

Shh...These 2 Movies DON'T Exist Either....

 

[RSoxNo1]

Meh. WDW existed long before Uni. The Mouse does what he wants when he wants and how he wants.

You're right, and Universal's success with IP based projects hasn't fueled the risk free approach that Disney has taken since.

 

[lazyboy97o]

You're right, and Universal's success with IP based projects hasn't fueled the risk free approach that Disney has taken since.

I hate doing this (broken clocks and what not), but the risk-averse franchise strategy was in full swing for the redevelopment of Disney's California Adventure that was announced five months after the Wizarding World of Harry Potter.

 

[Monorail Mike]

I can see how Discoveryland could work in DLP, but sounds too much like Discovery Island, which was an actual island in Bay Lake before AK and the ToL came along.
If they are considering a change, then no doubt there is a whiteboard somewhere covered with post-it notes of possible "new" names. Whichever one remains stuck to the board after the others fall on the floor and get vacuumed up by the custodian will be deemed the official choice.

 

[Pi on my Cake]

I hate doing this (broken clocks and what not), but the risk-averse franchise strategy was in full swing for the redevelopment of Disney's California Adventure that was announced five months after the Wizarding World of Harry Potter.

Disney would be doing a lot of IP based stuff regardless of Uni. That's just the nature of the business now. Most people want Ips and if you're going to spend a billion dollars, you want to make sure people will come to what you're building. I'm not saying it's right, I'd love more original stuff, just that it's the nature of the business now.

That being said, thishuge push with Pandora, star wars, toy story, and marvel is almost certainly reactionary. General public saw Potter land and said "Uni is doing Disney better than Disney does!" Disney wants to prove those people wrong and bring back the crowds with heavily themes IP based lands even if that was rarely the focus of Disney before Potter.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Disney would be doing a lot of IP based stuff regardless of Uni. That's just the nature of the business now. Most people want Ips and if you're going to spend a billion dollars, you want to make sure people will come to what you're building. I'm not saying it's right, I'd love more original stuff, just that it's the nature of the business now.

That being said, thishuge push with Pandora, star wars, toy story, and marvel is almost certainly reactionary. General public saw Potter land and said "Uni is doing Disney better than Disney does!" Disney wants to prove those people wrong and bring back the crowds with heavily themes IP based lands even if that was rarely the focus of Disney before Potter.

It has nothing to do with the "nature" of the business. Disney remains the dominant player in the themed entertainment industry and therecord the business remains very much shaped by Disney. It's a problem of leadership who don't know the business outside of the crass merchandise machine of negative, "cultured" critique; unable to reign in spending gone mad and going through the motions of what "has always been and must be."

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Disney would be doing a lot of IP based stuff regardless of Uni. That's just the nature of the business now. Most people want Ips and if you're going to spend a billion dollars, you want to make sure people will come to what you're building. I'm not saying it's right, I'd love more original stuff, just that it's the nature of the business now.

That being said, thishuge push with Pandora, star wars, toy story, and marvel is almost certainly reactionary. General public saw Potter land and said "Uni is doing Disney better than Disney does!" Disney wants to prove those people wrong and bring back the crowds with heavily themes IP based lands even if that was rarely the focus of Disney before Potter.

Reviewer Some Jerk With a Camera brought up another interesting point that Universal seems to like the Color Yellow....A Lot....