Rumor: Jungle Book Boat Ride at Animal Kingdom

Imagineer45

Active Member
There was a proposal for a JB ride using the Shanghai tech. But like I said it was deemed too expensive for Orlando.
It is so unfortunate they deem a revolutionary ride system too expensive for their flagship resort.

Costs not entirely paid for by Disney.
True, although the ride would still cost a lot less now than it did for Shanghai.
 

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
Besides Shanghai PotC, what ride tech is domestic Disney Parks missing?

Domestic Disney is getting Ratatouille and TRON. Domestic Disney is getting the LPS rides: MMRR, RotR, Rat, the rumored black box.

Domestic Disney will have the turn-on-command coaster of Guardians. Domestic Disney has the best flying audience system in FoP.

Domestic Disney has the best Toy Story Land, two SWLs, and Pandora.

Are you just blindly lashing out again?

Says the easily-impressed Iger shill.

Watch a video (in other words, educate yourself) of the Pirates ride in Shanghai. It demonstrates what a real state-of-the-art dark ride can really be. Why can't the U.S. have that? Then take a gander at Shanghai's Peter Pan's Flight update. And the Beauty and the Beast ride in Tokyo Disney. All those blow away the TRON rollercoaster, Rat and FoP combined. And Toy Story Land? The land of peeling paint and a kiddie coaster? You're actually impressed by that? Such blind loyalty. Or poor taste. But some of us have standards and reasonable expectations for the money we shell out for WDW. How you can defend cheapness and corner-cutting and call yourself a Disney parks fan is beyond me. Enjoy your disco Yeti and the Tangled bathrooms. The height of TDO innovation, no doubt, as far as you're concerned.
 

Raineman

Well-Known Member
Says the easily-impressed Iger shill.

Watch a video (in other words, educate yourself) of the Pirates ride in Shanghai. It demonstrates what a real state-of-the-art dark ride can really be. Why can't the U.S. have that? Then take a gander at Shanghai's Peter Pan's Flight update. And the Beauty and the Beast ride in Tokyo Disney. All those blow away the TRON rollercoaster, Rat and FoP combined. And Toy Story Land? The land of peeling paint and a kiddie coaster? You're actually impressed by that? Such blind loyalty. Or poor taste. But some of us have standards and reasonable expectations for the money we shell out for WDW. How you can defend cheapness and corner-cutting and call yourself a Disney parks fan is beyond me. Enjoy your disco Yeti and the Tangled bathrooms. The height of TDO innovation, no doubt, as far as you're concerned.
What gets me is that I'm sure that a good deal of these great attractions at other parks around the world are using the massive revenue that Disney gets from WDW to fund them. Smaller parks with lower attendance are getting the good stuff, while the parks generating all of that $$ suffers in that area. I don't have a ton of gripes about Disney, but that is my biggest one. Funnel most/all of the money that WDW makes back into WDW, and not overseas.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
What gets me is that I'm sure that a good deal of these great attractions at other parks around the world are using the massive revenue that Disney gets from WDW to fund them. Smaller parks with lower attendance are getting the good stuff, while the parks generating all of that $$ suffers in that area. I don't have a ton of gripes about Disney, but that is my biggest one. Funnel most/all of the money that WDW makes back into WDW, and not overseas.
Disney pays less than half the cost for attractions in China (the three land expansion of Hong Kong Disneyland is a unique exception) and nothing in Japan.
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
One plus point is that it aligns with a planned capex release for the park. Another plus point is the number is roughly the same. One the minus side I was told the ride system was deemed too expensive for Orlando (obviously things can and do change). And obviously another minus is the current situation regarding money.
There was a proposal for a JB ride using the Shanghai tech. But like I said it was deemed too expensive for Orlando.
Dang that really stinks. So we might get a Kali overlay with the Jungle Book instead? I wonder if Disney will us the Shanghai tech for a Indy boat ride at Hollywood Studios.
That was also a consideration but again budget prohibitive. Even more so now.

I remember @marni1971 hinting on this topic in past discussions and this seems to confirm some things. Basically, he had said that two different parks were fighting over getting a certain tech but for different rides - this basically confirms it was the Shanghai POTC ride system and that the two parks fighting over it were DAK for a Jungle Book ride and DHS for an Indiana Jones one. Makes sense.

He's also stated before that DAK was slated to get a big E-ticket after the current builds were done. Sounds like this may have been the concept... and it will be off due to COVID-19. :( Or maybe it was off anyway due to the cost anyway.

I know other rumored stuff for DAK has been either a third Pandora attraction (a great leonopteryx encounter walk through maybe?) or possible changing Dinorama to something more substantial.
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
Besides Shanghai PotC, what ride tech is domestic Disney Parks missing?

Yeah, I am not sure I understand the argument.

Sure 5 years ago it was certainly true that foreign parks were getting cutting edge attractions while WDW was stagnating. But in recent years, we've seen LPS rides finally coming to WDW, we've gotten FoP which is the only park using that next generation version of the ride system, we're seeing Tron being built - no not exactly a unique ride system, but the guest positioning and experience was certainly unique for Disney and it is not staying as a Shanghai exclusive - and WDW is the first park getting the positioning roller coaster technology for GotG.

On top of all that, RotR used not only the LPS setup but also blends it with other systems to create an absolutely unique ride experience. And only the domestic parks have it at this time.

It's also worth noting that some of the other relatively recently stateside builds included Radiator Springs Racers (the next iteration of the slot car tech) and 7DMT (the first development of the swinging car roller coaster).

So... I don't get the idea that WDW or the US parks overall not getting "good stuff". Was certainly true in the past but doesn't seem like a defensible position at this time.

Now, I do agree that it is a shame if the domestic parks do not get the Shanghai POTC system at some point. And hopefully it won't take forever as it did with LPS rides. It seems like a great ride system given its flexibility but also because it has a high capacity, something sorely needed.
 
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Says the easily-impressed Iger shill.

Watch a video (in other words, educate yourself) of the Pirates ride in Shanghai. It demonstrates what a real state-of-the-art dark ride can really be. Why can't the U.S. have that? Then take a gander at Shanghai's Peter Pan's Flight update. And the Beauty and the Beast ride in Tokyo Disney. All those blow away the TRON rollercoaster, Rat and FoP combined. And Toy Story Land? The land of peeling paint and a kiddie coaster? You're actually impressed by that? Such blind loyalty. Or poor taste. But some of us have standards and reasonable expectations for the money we shell out for WDW. How you can defend cheapness and corner-cutting and call yourself a Disney parks fan is beyond me. Enjoy your disco Yeti and the Tangled bathrooms. The height of TDO innovation, no doubt, as far as you're concerned.

lol
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
I remember @marni1971 hinting on this topic in past discussions and this seems to confirm some things. Basically, he had said that two different parks were fighting over getting a certain tech but for different rides - this basically confirms it was the Shanghai POTC ride system and that the two parks fighting over it were DAK for a Jungle Book ride and DHS for an Indiana Jones one. Makes sense..
And Epcot.
 

Heppenheimer

Well-Known Member
They better include the earthquake section. :p

EDIT - Begs the question though....is this King Louie Prima or King Louie Walken?
My bet is on King Louie Walken, since he never turns down a paying job, whereas the estate of Louis Prima has been far more protective of his legacy.
 

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HOUSE OF MAGIC
Premium Member
My bet is on King Louie Walken, since he never turns down a paying job, whereas the estate of Louis Prima has been far more protective of his legacy.

I would hope not for a few reasons: DAK has the costume characters already. (could be used to hypothetically sell an addon Meet and Greet area) The animated feature is more MK-adjacent (more kid-oriented, something DAK I believe is wanting to add to their park) Theory: It'd be used to stave off any would-be Zootopia plans. The classic provides a better aesthetic. The music is better. 100% Fact. In comparing Prima to Walken... one of those guys can actually sing. One is bouncy and fun the other more action adventure. Both could work though. I just think the style of the original is better suited for theme park attractions.
 

Heppenheimer

Well-Known Member
I would hope not for a few reasons: DAK has the costume characters already. (could be used to hypothetically sell an addon Meet and Greet area) The animated feature is more MK-adjacent (more kid-oriented, something DAK I believe is wanting to add to their park) Theory: It'd be used to stave off any would-be Zootopia plans. The classic provides a better aesthetic. The music is better. 100% Fact. In comparing Prima to Walken... one of those guys can actually sing. One is bouncy and fun the other more action adventure. Both could work though. I just think the style of the original is better suited for theme park attractions.
My comment was actually only limited to who would portray King Louis, archived Louis Prima recordings or paying Christopher Walken to record some new lines.

The original has demonstrated far more staying power in the public mind than the recent remake (much less the now forgotten 1990s live action version), so it would be the obvious choice. But as I noted, the estate of Louis Prima has not always played ball well with Disney.
 

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