Rumor from a Monorail worker.

[unkadug]

I could use an extra 1,000.00 bucks.


I'm in! Thanks condomman

 

[flynnibus]

Okay, I made it my profile picture.

Your profile picture is not a image hosting site and is a serious PITA to actually see a photo in any size. Please use an actual image webhost to link to images you are going to use for 'proof'.

As for the rest.. look at what is there and research it before seeing what you want to see...

 

[danlb_2000]

You know he never defined what he meant by "expand". They added that small piece of spur track a couple years ago which technically "expanded" the monorail system, so one more spur track like that and we all cash in!

 

[danlb_2000]

In the interest of accuracy here is what PeterAlt was actually looking at. Same site, different date. Looking back in the Google Earth it appears this area was cleared to be a staging area when they were building Kidani Village.

 

[PeterAlt]

I have no doubt this is the case. From what I understand a large scale monorail expansion was right about to be green lit before 9/11. I'll wager that there is a spread sheet where someone can input the current price of labor. concrete, steel, etc and generate a current cost for expansion. I just do not see Disney doing it until they have no other choice.

They're not going to wait to do it, like they waited on giving DL's Space Mountain refurbishment and new tracks until someone died, I would suspect, especially after the recent monorail accident! So, it will happen, hopefully, sooner, rather than later.

 

[disney fan 13]

I'm putting my name in for that $1,000...

 

[unkadug]

They're not going to wait to do it, like they waited on giving DL's Space Mountain refurbishment and new tracks until someone died, I would suspect, especially after the recent monorail accident! So, it will happen, hopefully, sooner, rather than later.

WHAT?

 

[asianway]

It would be interesting to see how many people would be willing to pay..... say $10.00 per family member for the duration of of there stay to stand clear of the New doors!

Keep the mug. I'll take the monorail 2.0

At TDR there is a charge to ride the monorail(Resort Line) around 2800Y for four days.

 

[unkadug]

At TDR there is a charge to ride the monorail(Resort Line) around 2800Y for four days.

$35.84 or 8.96 per day

Certainly less than paying to park!

 

[flynnibus]

PeterAlt - no one died on Space Mountain, tho they did have to close SM early based on track concerns. Someone died on Big Thunder - and not because they were delaying a refurb, but because of errors in operation and maintenance.

 

[danlb_2000]

I think PeterAlt is a very enthusiastic teenager.. albit.. a bit heavy on enthusiasm and a bit light on actual knowledge. Very very eager, but not schooled enough to know how to research his desires.

PeterAlt - no one died on Space Mountain, tho they did have to close SM early based on track concerns. Someone died on Big Thunder - and not because they were delaying a refurb, but because of errors in operation and maintenance.

Actually there was a death caused by DL's Space Mountain, but it was in 1979 and ruled natural causes so had nothing to do with the condition of the track.

 

[WDW1974]

This is a funny thread. It makes me laugh. Laughter is good for the Spirit.

You should all try it as often as possible ...

 

[PeterAlt]

Equally?? I would disagree immensely... as per the part of my post where I said buses were more cost effective and efficient, I don't think expansion of the monorail is necessary and frankly I would consider an expansion a waste of money. Renovations to the lines and new trains? That's fine. But a full on expansion? Sorry, but no. A new monorail would not be a draw...I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "Oh let's go to Disney World to ride the monorail." Many many more people don't ride the monorail at any given time than do. And I simply don't hear anyone clamoring for it the way they are for new rides/projects ect. The buses may be ugly but they get the job done for the most part. Therefore I would only want to see them spend money on a new monorail line after they fix the problems in their parks. And I feel like I can guarantee that Disney would only do one project at a time...heck, they don't even want to greenlight any project.

Look, if you connect the parks, hotels, retail, nighttime entertainment, etc. with a system that has low operating costs, you are effectively keeping people on the property because taking the monorail (or other mode of fixed route electric transit) costs less time and is more convenient. Leaving the gates and driving to a hotel or going someone to eat or shop in a car or bus would become a secondary option and no longer the preferred option, and would be chosen out of necessity or other reason. Keeping guests on property makes revenue on so many levels. It indirectly creates revenue for the company that it would likely pay for itself in just a few years, but there is no way to actually measure which revenue came from keeping guests from leaving.

 

[bubbles1812]

They're not going to wait to do it, like they waited on giving DL's Space Mountain refurbishment and new tracks until someone died, I would suspect, especially after the recent monorail accident! So, it will happen, hopefully, sooner, rather than later.

They've waited for over 30 years... of course they are going to wait until they have to do it. If they were going to do something after the monorail accident, they would have done it by now...as it's been 3 years since that time. Anything they did do now, I wouldn't even say were the result of the monorail accident. But again, it's not happening. There may be plans but the chances that it could be greenlit in the near future are zero to none.

 

[PeterAlt]

Actually there was a death caused by DL's Space Mountain, but it was in 1979 and ruled natural causes so had nothing to do with the condition of the track.

Sorry, I meant BTM. Also, I'm not a teenager! Lol I've taken an interest in urban planning and have taken some courses on the subject.

 

[bubbles1812]

Look, if you connect the parks, hotels, retail, nighttime entertainment, etc. with a system that has low operating costs, you are effectively keeping people on the property because taking the monorail (or other mode of fixed route electric transit) costs less time and is more convenient. Leaving the gates and driving to a hotel or going someone to eat or shop in a car or bus would become a secondary option and no longer the preferred option, and would be chosen out of necessity or other reason. Keeping guests on property makes revenue on so many levels. It indirectly creates revenue for the company that it would likely pay for itself in just a few years, but there is no way to actually measure which revenue came from keeping guests from leaving.

To connect absolutely everything together like suggest would cost billions more than just the 2 billion you threw out there. And I don't think your argument holds much wait. I've seen more than enough people on here want to bring a car even if they are on a monorail resort. Not to mention that the buses technically already do this...and they are more cost effective. It takes about two seconds to replace a bud. are they crowded? Sure. But so is the monorail. If you presume that suddenly everyone is going to want to use it, it becomes an issue of capacity too. They can add trains to be sure, but no where near the capacity of the resorts. I get what your saying but I'm not sure it would pay for itself in that "just a few year" time frame. To say that this would keep people on the resort...just not sure you can make that assumption, especially as Disney's competition continues to ramp up their game.

 

[Mike730]

While I don't necessarily agree that it's a possibility, I think people are underestimating how much the average guest hates the bus system. I wouldn't doubt it's the top complaint from guests.

The monorails may not attract people to the resort, but they also don't turn people away like the buses do. I know plenty of people that rent a car for that specific reason. A sophisticated monorail expansion could almost eliminate buses from a handful of resorts.

The easier it is for guests to travel around the 'world', the easier it is for them to spend money.

 

[steamboat wil]

Put me down for $1000. Now I'm getting that Simpsons monorail song stuck in my head.

 

[Taylor]

Put me down for $1000. Now I'm getting that Simpsons monorail song stuck in my head.

Monorail,Monorail,Mono-doh

 

[PeterAlt]

I love hearing the hypocritical double-talk of some of the people on these boards. On the one hand you say Disney is a money-grubbing, penny-pinching Scrooge of a company that has let the entire WDW resort fall into decay for over a decade; and on the other hand some of you actually believe, at any point in those same ten years (or 20, for that matter) that Disney actually considered blowing $3 billion on a proprietary, slow-moving, too-few-passenger-carrying, insurance-risk of a transportation nightmare? Seriously? For a property twice the size of Manhattan, I realize buses may not be as futuristic or romantic as a monorail, but get used to them, because when a bus breaks down, it can be replaced in ten minutes; when the monorail breaks down, people sue (or lose their life as was the case). The monorail will never be expanded, not even if the resort were taken over by private ownership or the executive of your dreams came into power. Expansion plans have not been on the table since the early 1980s, from Epcot to Lake Buena Vista Village (now DTD). See the picture below.

An expansion will never happen. Quote me on it. If it does, everyone on this thread gets $1,000, guaranteed.

I changed my avatar picture with proof this isn't true. This is a picture is a plan from the 1990's to extend the monorail to DHS.